good popcorn is good

308T maintenance will burn your wallet to ashes.
buy preve.new.

PADAN MUKA ! dares
YOU QUESTION PROFESSOR JAY ?

let me ask you a simple question,

If you buy the New Preve and drive it, would you always wonder how it will be like if you have chosen the second hand 308T ?

if you buy the second hand 308T, and drive it, would you wonder how it will be if you have chosen the New Preve instead?

GO CLIMB YOUR CORPORATE LADDER PLEASE!!

Once you start comparing 2 or more cars, no matter which car you buy you will still wonder Speaking from experience

funny i have a very different experience, when i was choosing my current ride, I'd nailed down to 2 choices (after ruling out a lot more), one is focus (even waited for it to be launched to test drive it twice) & another is 408

I don't know why, I never wonder what it is going to be if i have chosen a focus instead ever since.

perhaps your current ride is not so satisfying or being criticized to much? I can't help it if you are not satisfied but if it is about how other talk bad /questioning about your current ride. Know this, you have probably made your choice based on your best understanding of your choices matching best to your need at that time, You have prioritized what is important to you then and made the best choice then, perhaps your priority has changed now.

It's not buyer's remorse....just merely wondering that is all

It's more like "I love my ride, I wonder if I would have love that other ride as much" kinda thing

Then I will butt itchy (at least not butthurt )

just get a used 407 , now <60k can get a yr07 above .p407 >preve and no turbo related headache.....+ save $$$

I say get Preve. If you want to buy this year, make sure you get good discount due to the end of year model. Does Preve come with 5 year warranty like Suprima?

Had a 6th gen Accord-used for 10 years+. Drove like new when selling it off for 8th gen Accord. Only thing I changed were disc brakes since it was almost worn out.

You move your house and workplace to industrial area where the roads are in poorest condition. Then you tell me whether your Toyota better or Honda better after few years? Even Korean made is way more reliable than your Honda. Those who say Honda more reliable than Toyota are nothing more than some people that live in areas with good road condition, don't have to travel much in city traffic crawl and don't have to exposed to harsh weather much.

sure pug308T over new preeve lo

+1

Toyota is best for offroad use and harsh weather condition aka Dakar Rally etc...

You only consider Honda if you live in a place with actual roads and no hail/typhoon/desert weather condition... like 99% of the ppl in LYN.

+1

Terrorist likes hilux best

Hilux smells like terrorists?

Can mount 50mm machine gun, anti aircraft gun, rocket.... Load it up with bomb and a dumb driver, it can be act as a truck bomb. Versatile and flexible vehicle.

Ya I said for "normal household usage in malaysia" thats about majority of the ppls' need fulfill....at least far more than how much vote coalition could get in the last few PRU so I think 99% still extraordinarily high. then why does Jay still wants to argue about the 1% toyota does better than hontas


Logically speaking, you buy car that fits your purpose. means if you live plantation, rough terrain, harsh road condition , u buy 4WD, pickups, that fits the purpose not sedan car. U don't buy sedan car n goto field and complain of why is it breaking down prematurely.

Industrial area? So u live in one? why don't u just straightaway buy range rover...or Cygnus or Toyota Vigo . those r meant for 'harsh condition' you mentioned.

Besides, just that hontas rarely specialised in 4WD ,pickups and the likes and you are arguing toyota over hontas in a segment they r not particularly strong in and the forte of the toyotas? I think unfair comparison in THAT sense. Actually i for one, do live in an industrial area... but only 4 years, n the roads r REMOTELY flat (edit: and I counted there r about 10 big yellow bumps I've to drive thru , that's about 20 both ways if I go out. I do go out about twice a day.... u do the maths, alot of turnings into my house also, leftrightx5, few roundabouts. SRSLY I hate where i'm living now.) The 9yo honda city is ok with it....and TBH, I do think Msia roads are generally not of good condition but majority of hontas is ok....what do you expect? A gravel road in the whole of msia only u satisfied to say hontas car r OK? lol

I didn't even argue about hontas r more reliable than toyota but merely refute your claims of hontas r not reliable *in a fair level n logic discussion* i.e. nobody gonna drive a honda city around in plantation or pick the wrong car for the right job. There is a reason why sabah has one of the highest 4WD , pickups around in msia....3or 4 out of 10 cars on the road r pickups, 4wd n the likes because of the whole sabah is very unfriendly roads....ppl pick the right car for the right task ok. Hontas more specialised for city use n others that i didnt mentioned

Edit: and SRSLY , ppl less prefer korean cars in sabah, IDK why....so what if reliable. so far T,H,N are doing well here n still relatively reliable even if not as realiable as a Koreans....u think ppl stupiak not buy korean because they r more reliable. and there is alot more than just about reliability when the overall owning a car experience that sadly include RV as well but not the largely of it. and the korean didnt provide the holistic benefit in that sense



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Nov 21 2013, 02:19 AM

totally agree. you should call n ask the service centre how much the service cost at each interval and compare!! you will get a shock i bet. they will ask for your car plate number though.... so get one ready. any of those you see on the road will do

For normal service, my 308T costs me around RM400 ~ RM500 per service. For every 10,000KM or 6 months. Should I be shocked?

Major service, which is at 60,000KM, costs me around RM1,400 though

It's not the maintenance service that kills, but rather the high cost of parts replacement..however, if one knows where to source rather than Nasim, parts can still be found at a relatively affordable price..in regards to wear and tear, yes the P308 doesn't last as long as I would want it to be, but if you know which problematic parts that will give away sooner than later, you should be fine
so before you go choosing the P308 over the Preve, make sure that you do more research and learn about the car and it's potential problems..if you are uncomfortable with it, go get the Preve instead