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Heartnsoul
post Nov 4 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 4 2013, 04:00 PM)
Chill, watch a movie, reread the komsas tomorrow, sleep. Or focus on another subject if you feel unproductive. Am doing sejarah now, gonna reread everything before the 5 days gap! smile.gif
Oh, also, in relation to your earlier question, some schools teach them to write with definisi, then two huraian and two contoh. Two different ways of writing, both accepted.
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Ah, k. Thanks for the advice smile.gif

QUOTE(4896la @ Nov 4 2013, 04:11 PM)
Guys, how about the tatabahasa part? The kesalahan tatabahasa dan istilah, which method u all use to correct it everytime?
I always use this arrow method but my tuition teacher say tidak digalakkan
Eg.  i) ibubapa -> ibu bapa
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I just a table. Um, since we are on this topic? If we are using table, do we need to justify if we are correcting tatabahasa or istilah, or just kesalahan?

QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Nov 4 2013, 05:43 PM)
Does anyone here planning to use pencil for other purposes besides for the graph?
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Yes, shading the answer biggrin.gif

But yea, shading graphs and diagrams(labeling is done with pen)
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post Nov 4 2013, 06:39 PM

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Officialy done with school. Had a blessing ceremony today and apologised to everyone, Most of my classmates (especially the girls) cried a lot. I didnt cry at all. Dunno why but I didnt have any feelings like I did when I was sitting for the PMR..

Anyways will probably miss them all so much since I dont have any other friends out there..
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post Nov 4 2013, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 06:33 PM)
I just a table. Um, since we are on this topic? If we are using table, do we need to justify if we are correcting tatabahasa or istilah, or just kesalahan?
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I don't think we have to, or unless you're bold enough to give it a shot? blush.gif It might not be that hard for me to pinpoint the kesalahan and rectify it, but I might put myself in deep trouble if I were to justify them wrongly, I'm so not going to take my chances.
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post Nov 4 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 4 2013, 06:39 PM)
Officialy done with school. Had a blessing ceremony today and apologised to everyone, Most of my classmates (especially the girls) cried a lot. I didnt cry at all. Dunno why but I didnt have any feelings like I did when I was sitting for the PMR..

Anyways will probably miss them all so much since I dont have any other friends out there..
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Yea, the boys in my class didn't cry either. Can't say the same for the girls, but I'm sure the boys are holding back the tears.

Anyways, just asked my English teacher who is a marker. If the question asks us to start the essay with "blah blah blah", it does not have to be the first sentence. As long as it is in the first paragraph, it's fine.
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post Nov 4 2013, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(RED-HAIR-SHANKS @ Nov 4 2013, 06:47 PM)
I don't think we have to, or unless you're bold enough to give it a shot? blush.gif It might not be that hard for me to pinpoint the kesalahan and rectify it, but I might put myself in deep trouble if I were to justify them wrongly, I'm so not going to take my chances.
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True, actually, which kesalahan is easy to identify, just worried that I make some silly mistakes.
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post Nov 4 2013, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 06:50 PM)
True, actually, which kesalahan is easy to identify, just worried that I make some silly mistakes.
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By the way Heartnsoul, how do you prepare for your karangan? I don't mean to pry though, just curious. It seems like most of the contoh-contoh karangan that I've stumble across recently emphasise on the utilization of kata-kata mutiara/peribahasa and some crazy quotes. I'm kinda awe by their enhance usage of those eloquence words/proverbs and what-not, but don't you think that the elaboration of our points should be prioritize first? Like @maximR said before in the previous volume of this thread, most of the karangan cemerlang that he has seen practically include all of the flowery quotes/idioms, yet they sorta beating around the bush without having a firm and solid foundation in organizing and elaborating their points,no? If that's the case, then I should most likely scram to add in as many as I possibly can in my arsenal......
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post Nov 4 2013, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(RED-HAIR-SHANKS @ Nov 4 2013, 07:19 PM)
By the way Heartnsoul, how do you prepare for your karangan? I don't mean to pry though, just curious. It seems like most of the contoh-contoh karangan that I've stumble across recently emphasise on the utilization of kata-kata mutiara/peribahasa and some crazy quotes. I'm kinda awe by their enhance usage of those eloquence words/proverbs and what-not, but don't you think that the elaboration of our points should be prioritize first? Like @maximR said before in the previous volume of this thread, most of the karangan cemerlang that he has seen practically include all of the flowery quotes/idioms, yet they sorta beating around the bush without having a firm and solid foundation in organizing and elaborating their points,no? If that's the case, then I should most likely scram to add in as many as I possibly can in my arsenal......
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u prepare some peribahasa first, then when u write the karangan u just think of an example and just add the peribahasa into it tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2013, 07:23 PM

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Yes, I noticed that too. Even the contoh karangan given by my teacher had weak points. Ways to stop gejala social among youths and guess what? Semangat Kejiranan is one of four ways. doh.gif

I usually try to make my karangans flow nicely, but when all 5 karangans are not something I'm familiar with, I have no choice but to goreng-goreng weak isi with tons of awesome words to "mengeliru" rclxub.gif the marker rclxm9.gif

They would be like : Wow...this student...bagus bagus, banyak kata darjat tinggi, tapi saya tak tau langsung apa dia ingin sampaikan...whatever la, dia ni cerdik pandai, tengok dia mia ayat, darjat tinggi yo, bagus! 85!

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post Nov 4 2013, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 07:23 PM)
Yes, I noticed that too. Even the contoh karangan given by my teacher had weak points. Ways to stop gejala social among youths and guess what? Semangat Kejiranan is one of four ways.  doh.gif

I usually try to make my karangans flow nicely, but when all 5 karangans are not something I'm familiar with, I have no choice but to goreng-goreng weak isi with tons of awesome words to "mengeliru" rclxub.gif  the marker rclxm9.gif

They would be like : Wow...this student...bagus bagus, banyak kata darjat tinggi, tapi saya tak tau langsung apa dia ingin sampaikan...whatever la, dia ni cerdik pandai, tengok dia mia ayat, darjat tinggi yo, bagus! 85!
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well, all i can say is, this actually happens in every essay
come on, 5 isi for a specific topic? how on earth anyone can do that?
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post Nov 4 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 07:23 PM)
They would be like : Wow...this student...bagus bagus, banyak kata darjat tinggi, tapi saya tak tau langsung apa dia ingin sampaikan...whatever la, dia ni cerdik pandai, tengok dia mia ayat, darjat tinggi yo, bagus! 85!
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Hopefully that'll be the case! Rather than some eagle-eyed examiner going "eh budak ini membazir masa saya!" which is what my BM teacher does whenever she reads a weak isi laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Nov 4 2013, 07:27 PM)
well, all i can say is, this actually happens in every essay
come on, 5 isi for a specific topic? how on earth anyone can do that?
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... is it really that hard? I mean, some topics are a bit tricky, but on a whole it's not that hard to find 5 isi... is it? Haha maybe my isi terpesong rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Nov 4 2013, 07:22 PM)
u prepare some peribahasa first, then when u write the karangan u just think of an example and just add the peribahasa into it tongue.gif
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Haha biggrin.gif I don't mean to offend you, but you make it sound like a joke. I can readily insert one or two in both of my pendahuluan and penutup, but it ain't the same for my isi. Yeah, I might just do like what you'd mentioned, but I don't wanna repetitively do that for the other isi as well, it might show that I lack creativity, anyway, we'll just see how it turns out....
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QUOTE(RED-HAIR-SHANKS @ Nov 4 2013, 07:30 PM)
Haha biggrin.gif I don't mean to offend you, but you make it sound like a joke. I can readily insert one or two in both of my pendahuluan and penutup, but it ain't the same for my isi. Yeah, I might just do like what you'd mentioned, but I don't wanna repetitively do that for the other isi as well, it might show that I lack creativity, anyway, we'll just see how it turns out....
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bm karangan is like this de. most of my friends did it, cuz bm karangan is so uncreative
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 4 2013, 07:28 PM)
... is it really that hard? I mean, some topics are a bit tricky, but on a whole it's not that hard to find 5 isi... is it? Haha maybe my isi terpesong  rclxub.gif
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sry i should say STRONG isi. i looked back to the skema of past year papers too, and i found out that some of the isi are actually very similar and can combine as one, but they seperated them into 2.

or maybe my BM isn't very good. for BI and BC, i have no problem
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 07:23 PM)
Yes, I noticed that too. Even the contoh karangan given by my teacher had weak points. Ways to stop gejala social among youths and guess what? Semangat Kejiranan is one of four ways.  doh.gif

I usually try to make my karangans flow nicely, but when all 5 karangans are not something I'm familiar with, I have no choice but to goreng-goreng weak isi with tons of awesome words to "mengeliru" rclxub.gif  the marker rclxm9.gif

They would be like : Wow...this student...bagus bagus, banyak kata darjat tinggi, tapi saya tak tau langsung apa dia ingin sampaikan...whatever la, dia ni cerdik pandai, tengok dia mia ayat, darjat tinggi yo, bagus! 85!
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Seriously blink.gif That's it?? That's all?? You throw in some fancy bombastic words/quotes just to hype up your karangan and you're good to go? Heck, if I'd see this coming, I'll be memorizing tons of tons of awesome quotes of all sort and just puke them out left and right in the exam! But sadly, I don't wanna make another 'sejarah' out of BM. I'm done of memorizing, now it's time to put my critical thinking to the test flex.gif
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post Nov 4 2013, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Nov 4 2013, 07:36 PM)
sry i should say STRONG isi. i looked back to the skema of past year papers too, and i found out that some of the isi are actually very similar and can combine as one, but they seperated them into 2.

or maybe my BM isn't very good. for BI and BC, i have no problem
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oh, yeah. lots of isi can be similar, but if you can talk a lot of shit about one isi then might as well find a way to split it into two, haha.

i'm sure your BM is great, haha. my BC sucked ass when i took it in f3.
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post Nov 4 2013, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(RED-HAIR-SHANKS @ Nov 4 2013, 07:38 PM)
Seriously blink.gif That's it?? That's all?? You throw in some fancy bombastic words/quotes just to hype up your karangan and you're good to go? Heck, if I'd see this coming, I'll be memorizing tons of tons of awesome quotes of all sort and just puke them out left and right in the exam! But sadly, I don't wanna make another 'sejarah' out of BM. I'm done of memorizing, now it's time to put my critical thinking to the test flex.gif
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it requires critical thinking too. actually, lots of english words like "comprehensive" and "implicit" are almost the same in malay and are considered ~ungkapan menarik. so i think you're good to go if you can turn some of them into malay. ultimately, huraian and isi, where critical thinking comes into play, is really important. plus on the bright side, since you're so used to critical thinking, you'll be able to whip up some strong isi with good elaboration in no time!

have one or two slogans up your sleeve, and some relevan peribahasa, and all will be well! smile.gif
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 4 2013, 07:39 PM)
oh, yeah. lots of isi can be similar, but if you can talk a lot of shit about one isi then might as well find a way to split it into two, haha.

i'm sure your BM is great, haha. my BC sucked ass when i took it in f3.
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my BM is just 中上,and my bc is better than bm, although this time i got lower mark in bc

everytime during exam, i will have enough time for bm, but for bc, i have to cut down some ideas cuz i am scared that i might write overtime
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 4 2013, 07:41 PM)
it requires critical thinking too. actually, lots of english words like "comprehensive" and "implicit" are almost the same in malay and are considered ~ungkapan menarik. so i think you're good to go if you can turn some of them into malay. ultimately, huraian and isi, where critical thinking comes into play, is really important. plus on the bright side, since you're so used to critical thinking, you'll be able to whip up some strong isi with good elaboration in no time!

have one or two slogans up your sleeve, and some relevan peribahasa, and all will be well! smile.gif
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Thanks for your input notworthy.gif On the side-notes, it's not that my critical thinking skills are good, it's due to the fact that I distaste memorizing.

Thanks for the tips, will add more into my arsenal if time permits me.
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post Nov 4 2013, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 03:38 PM)
I thought we were supposed to use Kata Kunci in the first place? blink.gif  Nilai + KK1 + contoh + KK2 + contoh
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Some schools use definisi as well. Depends on your school smile.gif

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