Link:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/15056492/

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/games/heroes/

This post has been edited by memphiz_zero88: Jan 27 2015, 06:49 AM

Waiting for more news

a bit late to join the bandwagon ehh

DOTA 1/2 is (still) the best mmorpg created by Blizzard.

it's Blizzard. they are in a whole different league.

not anymore. they've gone downhill.

last time WoW also late to MMO party

However, the competition are quite smart this time. Valve has a very strong fan base who will worship Valve while Valve has been doing almost everything correctly and perfectly with Dota 2. Riot on the other hand, has shit load of money to throw around since they are owned by Tencent as they said, if you have money, you can literally do anything you please.

Blizzard on the other hand, their game's quality are declining sharply while their SC2 esport support has been declining too due to numerous mistakes by Blizzard.

I am not saying that Riot and Valve are invulnerable to Blizzard or Blizzard is bound to fail miserably. It is definitely gonna be interesting to see how it goes now.

for me dota 2 always .. unless they find a way to make competitive supports get more light

well true, last time, they got lucky with WoW but WoW is steadily declining as well.
d3 is shit and sc2 is not doing too well.

strongly agree. sc2 is good, juz the exposure/competition/marketing thing/player base not that huge compare to dota2/lol/hon atm. mayb blizz fail in promoting sc2?
sc2 is very competitive and very fun to watch for me.

Nah, its more like Blizzard screwed up too much with SC2. The custom map community is still more or less dead while it is hard to find custom games. Then, competitively, Blizzard screwed up their World Series Championship pretty badly this year as they thought they can go head to head against The International, which is plain dumb as viewers will not be able to keep up with 2 major tournaments in one weekend. At the end, there were less viewer for SC2 as everyone's watching Dota 2. It feels like you are trying to host Euro Cup quarter finals on the same day where World Cup Finals is held. I wont comment on balance as i havent been playing that much but i think its just not as solid as SC1.

SC2 is still a good RTS, probably the best RTS made in the last 5 years but it had the same problem as COH2 where both games have really big shoes to fill. In my opinion, I think both of them failed to live up to the expectations from its predecessor.

D3 on the other hand, what the fishes are they doing with it? It is literally the worst game ever made by Blizzard to me to the point that ARPG made by small indie developers like Neocore's The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing, Grinding Gear Games' Path of Exile and Crate Entertainment's Grim Dawn are far better than D3 in some aspects without having stupid features like auction house or always online.

Will it succeed? Probably in the first few weeks as interested parties check it out and compare but will probably fade as more and more comparisons are made with the old MOBAs and due to the exhausted market pool of gamers being more comfortable with what they know. Case in point, Super Monday Night Combat. It's a fun twist to the MOBA genre but has it succeeded? Not so much.

Also, carbot animations make the funniest sc2 things on his channel. Check it out as I've been subscribed to him for a while now

They'll have a solid consumer base at the very least. Their fanbase ate up Hearthstone and will likely do the same for this.

i think its temporary.
people like to try out new things.

I think moba games are overrated... since dota, people been making so many similiar moba games..

now blizzard? blizzard games always gotta wait forever then they focus on getting profit first ever since after warcraft III released

This post has been edited by omgimahero: Oct 18 2013, 10:18 PM

I heard top Starcraft player joining LoL/Dota.. isn't that downgrade? With RTS you micro multiple units.. with LoL/Dota.. you micro 1 unit? But of course it's still a team game.

maybe mechanical downgrade, but financial upgrade

it's hard to make money in SC2 unless you are at the top tier

I have much more respect in RTS pro than any single pro MOBA player . Perhaps a RTS pro is a true leader by themselves and a pro MOBA player is a true team player? Lol. i have no idea.

When dota 2 next patch comes out i might try out this moba game

Have been playing Heroes of Newerth for 4years dy.

As for me, RTS is damn boring, it's a waiting game....

MOBA is more fun and entertaining.

Different people different taste, can't really say which genre is better

Anyway, for all those haters out there, they will still wait for this game regardless good or not

meh dun rant all the complaint, its free and you all can choose to try or not, btw its free anyway.. cant hurt to try some

cinematic trailer



gameplay sneak vid



This post has been edited by memphiz_zero88: Nov 9 2013, 05:33 AM

Lets see how HOTS can fight with Dota 2, I doubt it

can sign up for beta now
http://www.heroesofthestorm.com/en-us

dev interview

This game doesn't have last-hitting or deny. It's more like WoW battlegrounds from RTS view.

Not sure how Dota fans feel about that.

It doesnt mean that every game has to be the same as Dota and there is no harm to play both for different experience. HoTS is definitely more casual which is a good thing as both Dota and LoL are almost impenetrable for new players.

Why are there so many MOBA and Sim racing fans think that if you can only choose one while hate/belittle the others? There is no legislation saying that you only can play one game or every game has to be designed to be like SC2/Dota/CoD.

aaah i only saw the video after goldfries shared it on facebook.

the cinematic looking very good.

Cinematic trailers look awesome. Only thing the in-game graphics look meh. Is it me or it's worst that Dota

It uses the same SC2 engine. I think Dota 2 is probably the best looking MOBA out there, followed by HoN.

LoL is probably the ugliest out there.

i watched the gameplay and can't see any familiar SC sprites other than marine.

It uses the same engine as SC2, just that they made some new models for HS.

The some of the environment textures or doodads seemed recycled from SC2 in the video.

those are the same people that argue on COD vs BF series.

I know and I'm getting really tired of it because these fanboys will make it very hard to have a balanced view on both games.

yeah, you can't have proper discussions with such people. all things bad, only what they like is good.

That's partly why I never really got into MOBAs. The community in general is just toxic.

Very reason why i was put off by MOBA.

game seems epic, since most of us play blizzard games way back, its fun to see diablo getting nuke

but i fear the era of MOBA has come, and this marks the demise of RTS. its rare to see good RTS nowadays.

still makes me wonder those who are already so into LoL & dota, will they jumpship over to HotS?

hmmm well they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
i find LoL 's portrait art quite nice.
the in game graphics have its own style.

but if by "general populace nice graphics" standard than yeah, DOTA2 > HoN > LoL
gameplay wise i think LoL will get more casual players since the game is less punishing as it focuses on other things.

hmm i'm not too much into LoL & DOTA2 so i will try out HotS, because, epic blizzard games heroes and villains haha.

will play more if they offer daily bonuses etc and if the core gameplay mechanics is casual enough.
given how casual heartstone is i think this HotS will be very casual friendly too.

which is a good thing.
or bad. haha.

look at candy crush saga. 10 million players!

After Diablo 3, I aint putting much hope in Blizzard especially even after they tried to fix it with RoS.

Well, just look at the post on top of this page, some people find RTS to be too tedious and its a waiting game. I really doubt we'll see a resurgence of RTS in the next few years.

I doubt those hardcore LoL or Dota fans will play HS as they seemed to have an unwritten rule that you only can choose to play one while you must belittle the others. HS seemed to be the sort of game that is designed for more casual players. I do like that each match only last for 20 minutes.

I never really like that 3D style as it felt like the polygons were very rough which made the textures look flat which made it to be the ugliest for me as I never really like games with that sort of 3D style.

HS would be perfect for more casual gamers but I cant deny that Dota 2 is pretty fun.

A developer casted match of HotS.

Looks good to be honest and its very different form other mobas.

Prefer LoL for few reasons, they are always constantly changing thus forcing people to change their strategy. for example now they are entering season 4 and follow wit hsome major change strategy need t ochange again.

yea,it just seems people doesnt like the idea of build, command & conquer anymore as they claim it took much time ( funny things is from my experience it took me 30 min to fin a game of C&C Generals but took my fren 45 min to finish up a match of Dota)

well there has to be fanboys else the franchise wont survive. but mainly i think they spent too much on their account so if they changed to other moba somewhat it felt like they have wasted their time playing.

i dont see how HS is suited for casual at least its not that different from other Moba, the mechanics is there already

A standard game of RTS is by far faster than a standard match of any MOBA.

Doubt so, its just people who are reluctant to change or adapt to new games.

It is definitely simpler than most MOBA but it looked like it will focus more on completing objectives than farming which seemed fun to me.

It is not that you must choose to play only 1, it is that you don't have the time and effort to invest in more than 1 because games like this has an extremely high skill ceiling and especially true for Dota 2 where denying and blocking creep plays a big role.

As for belittling others, people invested in the game will try to convince others to play the game they play so thst the community will get bigger so that the effort they invested does not go to waste.

The problem is, they made it as if you only can choose one legally even if one can choose to play both casually. Then, when both communities saw HotS, they just hate the game outright because it is different from whatever they had played.

No doubt you need time invested in these games which is partly why i rather not play but just because someone doesnt want to play the game you like, it doesnt mean you can make them look silly. At the same time, both games are largely the same at its fundamental level where i had seen people moving from dota to lol or lol to dota and they still can do quite well despite there are a lot of different mechanics between both games.

It is like saying I had play Starcraft and therefore i cant play Company of Heroes 2 because it is different and I have to relearn everything from scratch.That doesnt happen because most of the basics in a genre from dont feed in MOBAs or learn when to retreat in losing engagement still applies to games in mostly the same genre.

MOBA and sim community are probably even more immature and insecure than the CoD/BF fanboys. Its just games at the end of the day and do you need other people to validate what you like?

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 11 2013, 05:35 PM

Heard no RPG elements (no leveling, no items, all skills unlock, no last hit and shared experience).. i'm not sure this is any good. Will wait and see how is it goes.

Edit
Watched the videos. Look interesting. Gonna keep an eye. Only problem is i find the animation abit awkwards and the heroes with the mounts are alittle big?

This post has been edited by Archaven: Nov 11 2013, 05:57 PM

it is a fairly different game from most MOBAs, it felt more like DoW2 with one hero than Dota. Considering that they hired Johnny Ebbert who was the lead for DoW2.

The ragdolls are quite annoying where it felt like pillows being tossed around.

Hopefully they will go the Dota 2 route where they monetise via cosmetic items than asking people to pay for heroes and shit.

Well considering it's Activ/Bliz not sure how they going to monetise it. But i read somewhere they'll probably charge on cosmetics and probably heroes too. I hate it if they charge it for unlocking heroes. Don't mind on cosmetics though. Those heroes looks bulky.. damn DOTA2 looks much more beautiful. Wondering why is Bliz artist that bad? Why don't they make the graphics look like Diablo 3? Duh.

The reason DOTA 2 is earning is because they have community support to create items and also tournament tickets. I doubt their official products are earning much. Now if HotS were to follow this, then they will be copycat

Next is LoL, it is actually not earning a lot of money but they keep pumping in money to do tournaments because they're owned by Tencent in China. LoL monetization is too old already depending on cosmetics and exp boosts

I believe HotS will have another approach to earn money. Earning from hero = sure gg. Earning from cosmetics = low profit because it is only a 1 time thing, once you purchased that cosmetic you will have it permanent(well except they do duration cosmetic but doubt Blizzard will go this path)

The next MOBA titles have more monetization methods, just have to wait for the news

Considering that they had just released a F2P version of Blur on mobile that is utterly terrible, I am a bit worried that they will go with the LoL model with this which I never like the LoL model where you have to grind for heroes if not pay up.

If they are following the Dota 2 model, then, i'll be very interested with this game. Go nuts on the cosmetics and i'll even pay for some of then.

Agree on Blizzard games' art being ugly. Dota 2 looks so much better in comparison without everything becoming a rainbow in a large fight. HotS still have this problem.

Kind of a brilliant idea on monetisation by tournament tickets. No wonder US has declared it as an e-sport. It was really interesting during the start of DOTA2 could watch all the pro matches. Now need to pay to watch it? Aww.. anyway didnt follow on DOTA2 for more than a year. Got more than 20 invites sitting on my Steam account.

I dont know but looking at Activision's newest F2P on mobile isnt comforting. It is literally pay2win.

I just dont know how they gonna pull a decent business model without resorting to all the shitty monetisation methods like pay2win,gataphon or massive grinding. It will be good if they go with a hybrid model but i doubt that will happen.

I just dont think F2P works in general, unless the game has tonnes of contents.

I think Valve is just brilliant despite they are not perfect. They know they can never have as much man power as the fans so they let them create content then, pay them quite a bit for their effort while making a profit for doing barely anything. At the same time, the tournament tickets are done in a way that its a win-win for everyone. Organizers get some funds for price pool or used to organize the tournament while Valve make a profit from it and fans get to watch the game live through their client.

Tournament Tickets is probably the best thing Valve brought to esports along with every game client can be used to spectate esports.

It is just disappointing that Blizzard havent implement this into SC2 or HS yet.

Well.. if you didn't notice recent big backlash on Valve is on Halloween's Diretide event. Valve failed to communicate to their fans by keeping quite and the fans uproar and brought it even onto Volvo's twitter and Obama facebook. Damn such a bad portray of PC users.

But in all honesty i'm not sure why all PC community hails Gaben. I'm really not sure. Honestly where does DOTA 2 originated from? IF you asked me Gaben is a thief XD. It's originated from Warcraft 3 mod. In all seriousness, i think Activ/Bliz didnt see it coming from Gaben copyrighting the DOTA2.

This post has been edited by Archaven: Nov 11 2013, 07:59 PM

The problem is, MOBA fans are mostly hostile and angry. If they are not happy with something, they will make a huge fuss out of it while for Valve, they are never good in communicating with fans directly. The whole Diretide thing is a disaster. If this happen to LoL, it will be the same outcome.

As i said, Valve is not perfect but they are very good in making sound and beneficial to everyone sort of decisions. They made numerous mistakes back then but they always tried to compensate gamers in some ways while being innovative on what they do such as those tournament tickets and trading cards. Valve managed to create a platform for PC during the time where no one cares about PC and managed to rally the gamers behind Valve with their good will in general. Thats why people like them because generally, they are a pretty good company who is attentive to their users but they are not flawless.

So, whats wrong with trade marking Dota? They did the same with Counter Strike, Team Fortress and Alien Swarm while no one complained about. At the same time, Blizzard had Dota right under their noses and didnt give a crap about it until Dota is being trademarked by Valve. Blizzard could trademark Dota years ago and hire Icefrog to work on HotS but they didnt for some reasons. At the same time, the basic concept of Dota was stolen from a Starcraft 1 mod called Aeon of Strife while the game had so many change of hands since its inception where it is hard to find who actually made it in the first place.

Blizzard has a problem where they are way too big for their own good now. This made them slow to adapt to changes and afraid to innovate the genre that they are good in. HotS and HS should be released years ago if they arent putting that much effort in WoW and they fairly late to the scene now.

Those DOTA2 players who asked for Diretide and affected innocent people like Volvo official page are the new dotards in gaming. It used to be DOTA 1 but i guess these people have moved on to DOTA 2

Blizzard also at fault they didn't hire Eul/Guinsoo/IceFrog earlier but i guess they learnt their mistake which is why they approached the guy making the Starcraft MMORPG and gave him their green light/sanction

We can't deny Pay2Win exists in most game nowadays because that is the trend now sadly. Those Kuai Lo have at last learn from our Asian developers that Pay2Win is the fastest way to make money. Kuai Lo is good at making great online games but bad at making online games that earn a lot

Well, except they do a way for people to spend money continuously without affecting gameplay, then that is smart. They actually already have this concept in one of their Blizzard franchise game and let's see if they're smart enough to apply it in HotS

It is just stupid people in a large group. Even CoD fans got angry with some gun got nerfed and started sending death threats to the developers. It is just stupid people in general.

Thats why F2P shouldnt even exist in the first place as this business model is designed by business men who wants to bank with it, not creating games with meaningful experience.

Yeap i agree if anything Activ/Bliz were really slacking. I'd said both in technology and timeline. Also recently there were forced to remove the RMAH for Diablo 3 due to they are slow in knowing they actually gave a middle finger to their fanbase.

PC gamers need to use the RMAH and console users what? They can play offline too. If anything it's great stupidity if you asked me. They announced 14M Diablo 3 were sold including consoles. One can imagine you do the maths how many copies were sold on PC.

I hate to say it but Activ/Bliz is stupid. They are giving a middle finger to the PC fanbase. They thought the grass is greener on the other side. They have no idea how huge is the MOBA fanbase.

Edit
Agreed with Cheese. I'm NOT a big fan of F2P. In all seriousness, nothing is free. Is just a scam. Micro-transactions and monetization is the worst thing in my principle. But anyhow i welcome what Valve did with Dota2. No heroes unlocks for paying and only paying for tournament tickets. That's the way i think. But i'm not sure how much are the tickets for the tournament though. When it first launched i actually watched it for free.

This post has been edited by Archaven: Nov 11 2013, 09:26 PM

Blizzard is just way too big to be managed efficiently where i think Valve will run into sometime in the future. To be honest, RMAH should not even be in the game to begin with as it adds nothing to the experience other than forcing players to use it to get reasonable progression.

I like what im seeing with Reapers of Souls and i'll get the PS4 version instead of the PC version.

That is what i hate. Why were gamers forced to get a console for the game they want? *facepalm*. If anything, Valve DID the right thing by focusing on PC fanbase hence we saw a 30% growth in Steam active users in 2013 i think.

Recently Microsoft reckoned the success and now moving back in supporting the PC. They had thought they made profits in XBox. But guess nobody knows they lose USD 2B annually on XBox?

Edit
However on recent Steambox and Steam controller announcement.. i'm not sure what to comment on. It's clearly not targeting PC fanbase. It's luring the console crowd and the same time separating Steam from Windows.

This post has been edited by Archaven: Nov 11 2013, 09:31 PM

Prime World have better graphic, at least the colour and artwork.

It is optional, they are not taking down the PC version and force pc gamers to get PS4 version.

I actually like the features on PS4 than the ones on PC. Couch coop, offline mode, dodge and that portal thing.

Sharing some live images from Korea



Here are the current playable heroes for those who do not know

Thanks for sharing. This is really a letdown to me. Makes me think Blizzard is real lazy. What year are we living in? Those visuals look so dated.

IF anything, Blizzard put effort on was on the CGI trailer

It is in Gstar Korea now. We are not supposed to believe all these visuals because it might change during actual release. I think we learnt from Diablo 3 that the alpha footage is so different from actual release

Bought myself a D3 RoS lanyard and the T-Shirts are overpriced compared to Bliz Store

Well i hope so. Since they'll be removing RMAH next year.. i see myself to get myself Diablo 3 and RoS too

some CGI trailer that maybe TS can put on first page


funny things about this is Blizzard dont even need to cook up heroes ideas. they can copy directly (change the hero to Blizzard type) from dota1. and valve (dota2) cant do a thing about it as iirc in the map editor there's a clause stating that "all map created belong to blizz"

btw, am i the only one who thinks "Raynor will be the first to die "

Err, they don't need to copy from Dota1. Dota1 heroes are based on Warcraft 3 such as Furion

more like, with the entire Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchise under their belt, they random ASSPULL also can cook up more heroes than they could ever possibly balance

Hogger the support/jungler

Vinyl Figure and HotS T-Shirt. The T-Shirt is disappointing but the Vinyl figures are nice

Only a few are based on Warcraft 3, not all of them, last time I count there are like 3 of them. And all the heroes just share the same name but not the skill set.

dibs on AD Carry Raynor.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Heroes-of-th...616085055094511

Heroes of the Storm Malaysia community page

Just tried a few games of Haunted Mines with AI

Pretty different game than what i expected with majority of the skills that are really unique that is customizable with your talents

This post has been edited by ChcGamer: Apr 4 2014, 10:17 PM

you got alpha access?

Yeap using friend's

I think we can only connect to US servers now as i feel quite delayish. I've tried DH, Barbarian and Siege Tank

Gotta try more maybe later tonight or tomorrow

This post has been edited by ChcGamer: Apr 16 2014, 10:52 PM

I was stunned for a few seconds sitting in front of my monitor when i logged in and listen to the music and admiring the cool UI/interface of the menu

Been very long since a game was able to awe me like that with just their menu lol

How many of us here are hoping to get access to play ?



This post has been edited by ChcGamer: May 26 2014, 11:51 AM

you can give us access?

everybody including me and that is the reason i buy digital deluxe of diablo 3 ROS just for the demon hunter

me!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/HeroesMY/

Hi guys, i've created this group so that it's easier for us to play together

Feel free to join

Sweet ..come home..on Bnet app and saw this

Me too, saw the Install button today.

So, how was everyone doing ingame today? I lost a lot of games cause me and my friends are using Abathur almost every game

still doing practise, see which heroes looks better with my style

so only 5 free 2 play heroes?

issit faster leveling using Abathur ? currently still testing each available heroes, so far Raynor and E.T.C is my fav, but from group play, i see lack of healer role. maybe might take up a healer and see how it rolls.

use my first 2k gold to buy Muradin..heh..should have save it and spend later on a much better hero.

wooo I got the alpha test invitation~~~

guess what... we have Malaysia server(s) for Heroes...

Any battletag here?

Mine Mengdexs#6429

The account will wipe, after this you can save it for other hero.