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 The Shrimp Thing, All About Shrimp - Neocaridina & Others

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post Nov 19 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 18 2013, 10:34 AM)
Congrats on the shrimplets.

My tank is pretty uneventful. Trimming the darn overgrown moss and removing excess flowing plants every couple days and learned that horned nerite snails poo like crazy.

And fighting water surface oil layer.

Short of using a skimmer or air pump (not practical in my case), I've tried manually removing it, I tried the paper towel method, I did water change, I cut down feeding to 20% compared with before (less shrimps now anyway  doh.gif ) but the darn thing reappear every couple days.  shakehead.gif

Edit: Oh.. and my ongoing battle with leeches.
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There is hob filter that come with surface skimmer but there is possibilities of shrimp be suck in as well.
You can try biochem no-planaria powder for the leeches problem. May work on them.
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post Nov 19 2013, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 19 2013, 05:17 PM)
You guys HAVE to congratulate me on this.. I've now got almost the entire collection of known bugs and critters in my small tank.

- seed shrimps --> checked
- pest snails --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one.
- nematodes --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one.
- leeches --> checked
- planaria --> checked but relatively under control.
- hydra --> LATEST part of the collection  mad.gif
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still got bacteria infection to add in.. ahahahhaha
-Seed shrimp & nematodes - can vacuum substrate to reduce. (harmless but just ugly only)
-Planaria & hydra - Just use biochem no-planaria powder , dose 3 days - all settle(confirm), Biochem no-planaria is from Taiwan anyway.
-Leeches- No-planaria powder may work.
-Pest snails - No-planaria sometime kill them too else get some snail trap to reduce it or employ assassin snail.

all those pest come from the plants and shrimp purchase that hitchhiker on the plants and water, nothing to do with your setup unless you use second hand soil. Taiwan imported shrimp here are notorious to giving free planaria pest as bonus. That how i got my first planaria infestation last time.


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post Nov 20 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(bg2014 @ Nov 20 2013, 08:05 AM)
Actually it was call JBL Tormec Activ, I got the name wrong. I am going to get some CRSs next week, and I am worried they might be dead or infertile because of the PH problem...

I have seen people on internet said that their CRS breed normally even in PH 7.x tank, but I don't wanna take any chances.

Are there any "natural" ways to reduce water ph and has long lasting effect beside using soil and driftwood?

I was tempting to use PH down product.
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although JBL Tormec Activ like sera super peat can reduce ph when use as filter media, it is not a long term solution as it effect only last 3 to 6 mths and there is fluctuation when near end of his lifespan, which make it not that suitable for CRS tank which need constant stable parameter, shrimp soil can provide that stable ph buffering for at least 1 to 2 year.
Don't ever use Ph down products for shrimp tank especially for crs as this ph down only provide temporary effect.
Any fluctuation in water parameter is proven fatal for sensitive shrimp like crs.
There is no shortcut in keeping sensitive shrimp like crs.
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post Nov 21 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(bg2014 @ Nov 21 2013, 07:11 PM)
Hi everyone, I got another questions about shrimps.

It's it true that Red cherry shrimps won't breed in high PH? Or high PH would greatly reduce the productivity of them?

And has anyone tried to keep Crystal red shrimps in high PH tank before? Did they thrived?
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Rcs can breed in high ph, in fact im breeding my blue rili in a 1ft tank with ph8.2 with under gravel filter and sponge filter.

Crs is very different. They need special requirements just for them to survive, not to mention breeding them.
If you really into crs really need to invest in soil.
Ada amazonia soil csn be use. But make sure to throughly cycle it and do few large water change few days apart in 2 werk prior to adding the shrimp.
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post Nov 22 2013, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(qz4eva @ Nov 20 2013, 05:14 PM)
Haha...

Thanks bro/sifu...

varialmctwist is the doom guy. Always forget his name so call him doom guy...

Anyways, Ive ordered some items for my shrimp tank:
Gona start this project in mid December like that.

1. 1x1x1ft tank. - ok
2. LED Lights - ok
3. ADA Amazonia soil from my planted tank mix with some new soil. - ok (cycle and large water to cllear out excess nutrient)
4. Sponge Filter - good
5. Marimo ball. - good to the eyes but not that suitable as they like high ph water)
6. Java moss or something. - grow more of it. Shrimp like and use them as hiding spot and feeding field.
7. Cube Ceramix houses. - ok
8. Am looking to try Orange Rilli Shrimp. - orange rili not begineer shrimp. 

This is my checklist.
I guess I am missing some Bacter Bacter right?
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post Nov 23 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(qz4eva @ Nov 22 2013, 01:09 PM)
Hi bros,

Thanks for the advice especially to Arrow & GTBlackIce.

-I don't really like RCS or Fire Red. So I plan to play some Rilli. I heard some people telling me that they were NeoCaridinia Hetroparta something something species and it is same family with RCS that's why I choose Rilli.

-Also, was wondering what family and how hard/easy it is to take care of Fire Yellow Shrimps or Golden counterparts.

-Finally, would those Borneoworld products like Crystal Bacter 1 2 3 4 for planted tank works in accumulating BB and Water Cycling in my future shrimp tank? Coz dun wana spend so much money, kinda on a tight budget atm.
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QUOTE(qz4eva @ Nov 22 2013, 03:53 PM)
Hi again Mr. Arrow.

Ya I have a whole set of BW products. I use it for my planted tank and I have extra. Am planning to use these for the shrimps coz its cost effective.

Also, I've read about your thread on shrimp supplement & food. It a very knowledgeable article and I've learn lots from it.

I am hoping to use some old ADA Amazonia soil and mix it with some new soil. After that, I would add some old tank water from my other tanks thus reducing the Cycle process and not to forget adding the BW supplements. <--- Will you think this would work?

Thanks for your wisdom bro.
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You can use those BW additives for planted tank for shrimp tank as well. Just cycle your tank with amazonia soil as usual, poke the soil with a stick to help release trapped air bubble(if not those trapped air bubble may release ammonia later when you disturb or the shrimp dig the soil later), once cycled, do a few large water in a week prior to adding shrimp to remove excess nutrient from soil, try not to disturb the soil substrate after that.

-Cherry. fire red , plamata and red rili are begineer shrimps in the neocaridina shrimp family. (good as starter shrimp with cherry the cheapest to obtain).
-Fire yellow or also known as yellow golden back are intermediate/sensitive shrimp, demand a mature tank. (try get smaller juvenile size as they have better survival rate that full grown adult).





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post Nov 24 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(qz4eva @ Nov 23 2013, 03:47 PM)
Hi arrow,

Hmmm... what is plamata shrimp.
I Google it but they couldn't came up with any solid result.

Also, why is a juvenile shrimp better than a full grown adult?
Is it because a full grown adult is nearing its life cycle?

Thanks again bro smile.gif
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refer here for palmata shrimp picture, their color variant.
http://swisstropicals.com/Neocaridina%20palmata.html

Shrimp adjustment is like children. They more easy to adapt to new environment when they small. Adult shrimp especially the sensitive one will have higher dying rate in new environment.

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post Nov 28 2013, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(william1120 @ Nov 27 2013, 10:41 AM)
bro, is seed shrimp hamful to shrimps? thousands of them invading the tank
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They are harmless. Just an eyes sore.

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post Dec 1 2013, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(bg2014 @ Dec 1 2013, 06:10 AM)
Hi everyone, just wondering if it's ok to keep red cherry shrimp in a 2ft tank with no substrate at all, but only plants with no roots?
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For rcs. Can. Just that the shrimp will have to roller skate on the floor during the initial phase till biofiln build up on the floor. Color will be dull without strong contrast on substrate and decor.
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post Dec 3 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(bg2014 @ Dec 3 2013, 08:11 AM)
Hi, to everyone and sifus~

I just got the first batch of Crystal red shrimp of my life a few days ago (29 Otc).

This morning I found one dead, and when I took out the body and touched it, the body feels soft.

Is this what people on the internet says, after molting, the shrimp released some kind of strong smell that draws other shrimps to attack it?
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dead shrimp , after few hour body left in the tank, all will be soft and start to rot.
Shrimp died after molting the body will be soft and their body after molting is prone to attack from fish and affected more by tank parameter.
Shrimp normally mate after molting that why certain times a shrimp be swarmed by others.

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post Dec 3 2013, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(bg2014 @ Dec 3 2013, 02:41 PM)
Thanks~

Another question~ Can Malay Shrimp be kept in 2ft tank with no substrate at all? Would they thrive?
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Yes. Malaya can be kept with bare tank but most wont show their color, as substrate and surrounding color is one of yhe main key in determine their color change.
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post Dec 5 2013, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 4 2013, 06:02 PM)
Guys.. what medias do you use in your filters?
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i use many kind , Eheim Pro Substrate, ADA Bio Rio, Seachem Matrix, Rein Biotech Biohome Plus etc,
Sometime the media you choose depend on your filter type and holding space, of all those i like Biohome Plus and if according what it claim
is true , it have the highest surface area among all those media i use, that mean it good for small filter that have filter media space constraint.
http://www.reinbiotech.com/pets/all-brands...&category_id=24
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post Dec 5 2013, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 5 2013, 12:30 AM)
So its all bio media, cotton wool and nothing more?
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Yup. Bio media. Filter wool and some filter add in purigen as well.
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post Dec 6 2013, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(calvinyoon @ Dec 6 2013, 12:23 PM)
some Taiwanese friends said this is good too
http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/b9...me2=aFS_VIPTW42
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Look alike like azoo active filter media.

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post Dec 11 2013, 12:18 PM

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Third Try : Project Sulawesi.
NO coral stone/sand , with just lot of mineral and lot of algae.

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post Dec 11 2013, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(jun08 @ Dec 11 2013, 10:15 PM)
hi, newbie here, is this rili?

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Yes. Rili shrimp.
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post Dec 12 2013, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(khfoong81 @ Dec 12 2013, 06:45 PM)
Few Malaya Shrimps turned to dark blue and dark chocolate colour.
This is healthy sign? When light is on, all are hiding.

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Healthy , remember Malaya also known as rainbow shrimp? changing color is their unique features.
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post Dec 14 2013, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Dec 12 2013, 12:00 AM)
feel like start a new tank on next month

a 1.5ft tank, for fire yellow and malaya
thinking whether want to have substrate or not,
any comment on Benibachi Black Soil?
or just use normal black sand in LFS?

if got substrate, need to add any substrate additive?

will put moss, floating plant, and 2 low maintenance plants
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Bare tank easy to maintain as no hidden waste but for me it is really ugly.
Moss is basic plant in shrimp tank, so no wrong getting some, benibachi soil is good as it have far less ammonia leaching then Ada Amazonia soil. Currently benibachi soil is out of stock in kuala lumpur. I only left half bag just enough for my Sulawesi tank as nutrient provider for hair algae cultivation.
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post Dec 14 2013, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Dec 14 2013, 01:03 PM)
yeah, asked him few weeks ago
saw one store on lelong got stock for 8L, but postage is about 60
the LFS here carry ADA and a few soils that's for plant use only, i presume they will leach ammonia like ADA
price is about the same with  the benibachi i saw on lelong

fire yellow doesn't really need PH buffer that provided by the benibachi soil, no?
if use soil, better to add in bacteria under the soil to get it to have stable bacteria colony in long run?

i saw this type of black sand in LFS, should be easier to maintain compared to soil i suppose?
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feel like redoing the existing tank as too much pest snails and seed shrimps, or remove all the shrimps into another tank put a few hungry guppy to take care of them after i stir the soil inside out?
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Bacteria is very important in any shrimp tank. It serve as food and help maintain eco system in tank. A good bacteria colony under the soil will help in maturing the tank and help prevent old tank syndrome.
To kill seed shrimp. You can take out all soil and dry them under the sun or install heater to heat up the water to 40c to kill them. But bacteria colony in soil will be wiped and tank is like reset.
Stir the soil may not drice them all out to be eaten by guppy. It may kill the guppy if too much debris is released from the soil if keep on stirring and pollute the water.
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post Dec 14 2013, 02:16 PM

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The black sand sold in lfs. Some are actually carbon based like active carbon. That why some claim will absorb impurities and improve water condition.
This may have a issue later as cheap active carbon will release back toxic it hold back to water once it reach it capacity. Need more feedback to determine whether this black sand is ok or not.

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