I have to agree on that. Not all Daiso branch carries the same stock / items in their premise. But i believe the bigger branches have more options and varieties.

Anyway, i just use ordinary 13" size back pack to carry my naked W4. Can put more stuff like drinks, powerbank, MiFi, mouse, keyboard, etc. in the bag. Will only use the touch function when in train, toilet, queuing to buy food, movie ticket or pay stuffs, etc.

So, anyone tried the 3G version of W4? Any significant differences?

This post has been edited by azeemzuhair: Apr 17 2014, 07:26 PM

Got GNSS / GPS. Also supposedly bigger battery (prolly to offset for the extra drain from the data hardware).

Not sure it's worth the extra 500 over my PC fair special though - even without considering the free extended warranty I got. Besides, GPS duties are already very well handled by my droid phone - which actually STILL handles day to day internet interactions far better than a Windows Tablet unfortunately, however handy it is to have the extra firepower of "a proper OS" on hand when you need it.

And there's the fact that "connected standby" is STILL very iffy as of now, so it's prolly better to use like any "normal" laptop - aka as an on demand info puller paired with a large batt capacity, hotspot-able phone.

Or in my case, through a BT PAN to my Note 2 (saves more battery vs hotspotting).

Anyways, anybody found tempered glass protectors that could fit the W4 yet?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 22 2014, 10:51 AM

Is there any digitizer/active pen that I can get to work with the tablet? Can I just buy those galaxy note pen at lowyat and use them with the tab? how exactly is this digitizer pen work? does it have a battery inside and use wifi/bluetooth?

The ONLY wireless (capacitive) active pen that works directly with Windows 8 touch is probably the Hex3 YuFu Focus and YuFu Pro: http://www.hex3.co/products/yufu - and even then the Win 8 support is "promised" rather than currently available.

Unfortunately we do not have a digitizer built in (like the VivoTab Note 8) so no, Galaxy Note Pens DO NOT work. Except probably the Samsung C-Note Pen, as that one is just a small capacitive stylus.

ALL passive pens work on the W4, with varying levels of accuracy. I have a normal rubber capstylus and a Adonit Jot Mini, and while they both work fine, the Jot likes to scratch the screen protector from time to time due to the nature of its design.

I'm now looking for a cheap, decent microfiber tip capstylus.

External digitizers tablets should work (we're running Windows after all), but you usually need to stick the pad up your only available USB so that's that.

Another alternative (if you have a Samsung Note device) is to use VirtualTablet: http://www.sunnysidesoft.com/virtualtablet/

Seriously, if you NEED to use an active stylus you should've gotten the Asus VTN8 - regardless of the fact that it has horrible QC (a lemon every 10 units or so - according to the TabPCReview forums) and 'dat infamous Asus Malaysia warranty support'.

A better option is prolly the Dell Venue Pro 8, ONCE Dell FINALLY figures out how to make the Synaptics pen work PROPERLY (if ever).

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 23 2014, 11:05 AM

Are you sure it'll work with Windows 8? Also.. AAAA battery...yeeeeessssseeehhhh

I have the JotMini too, and what I realized is that different tablets have different levels of sensitity. Basically when you start drawing small enough curves (like small cursive writing) the screen will start ignoring it because it didn't detect that that tip has moved.

While the iPad had the best sensitivity it still wasn't free of the missed strokes issue.

So the summary is. If you NEED a great digitizer draw experience
- Get the Asus Vivotab Note 8
...

But then you read about all the post about the faults which causes the pen to go haywire.. Damn Asus ... and Damn DELL for not making the Synaptics pen work properly!

At least we can hope that the Surface Mini comes WITH active input AND full Windows.

Or that the next refresh of the ThinkPad 8 comes with active input.

Failing that, we still have the ThinkPad 10 to look forward to, however more cumbersome a 10 inch tab still is compared to a 8 inch one for mobile use.

Oh and yeah, the YuFu SUPPOSEDLY will work with Win8 because they met a stretch goal back in KickStarter. SUPPOSEDLY. Time will tell if they make good on their promises.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 23 2014, 08:37 PM

Hmm... based on how the drivers work.. it'll be interesting to see if they can work properly..

Went retail therapy-ing myself at Digital Mall today, got a few interesting stuff:



From the left:

1) The Titan 5A 3 port car charger - The only readily available charger that does above 4A, charges both my Note 2 (directly) and W4 (with charge booster) simultaneously without breaking a sweat. Plus it's cheap as chips compared to the Anker, Inergie and TYLT 4.2A chargers.

2) The Simplism Grip Touch Pen - For a rubber nub stylus, works surprisingly well for writing notes and stuff, at least better than most of the other r-nubs I've tried. Just don't try to write in tiny cursive though.

3) The Apacer thingy - Was curious if it would do charging + OTG. Unfortunately, it doesn't (both on the N2 AND the W4). It's not THAT expensive however so no real loss, and it still functions quite well as a mobile card reader/OTG adapter.

Also, ThunderMatch had a VivoTab Note 8 on display (sans the pen). So I whipped out my N2 pen and had a blast with the digitizer. YES, Win8 desktop benefits GREATLY from active pen input for sure.



It's on sale for RM1.2k. Would have been tempted if not for the lemon horror stories (oh, the stories), the very meager 32GB internal storage and the current bad state of of the local Asus warranty services.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 28 2014, 02:09 PM

Tell me about it! Every day I pull the pen out, hover it in front of the screen for a response, and say a little prayer whenever it works..

what anti virus is suitable for this tablet? i fail to install kaspersky internet security 2014.

Personally, I'm using Microsoft Defender that comes built-in with Win8 + careful browsing. Resources are already scarce on these Bay Trail tablets and I don't really feel I can afford the extra overhead from a bloated modern AV app.

And Microsoft Defender is just a rebranded version of "Microsoft Security Essentials", which was a pretty good free AV solution to begin with.

If you wanna stick with proper paid AVs, I recommend getting JUST the "antivirus" part of anything - not the whole security suite. For instance, JUST Kaspersky AV and NOT Kaspersky IS.

Trust me, a full security suite is often overkill for our normal needs.

Also, NOD32 is another low resouce AV worthy of your consideration.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 28 2014, 02:21 PM

thanks, btw how to scan for virus on usb pendrive using microsoft defender, i can't seem to find ways to scan them.

Tried the Norton 2015. Gonna stick with it for the time being.

thanks.


is there any ways to make a system restore on this tab other than resetting it, I have to reset it after i found out my microsoft office missing just now and the support page fail to download the installer.

You have to create a system image, using:

1) The old Win 7 System Image tool - It's included in Win8, you just have to find it.
2) A free third party Disk Imaging tool like Macrium Reflect, EaseUS or Paragon Backup.

That said, that AV conversation with you made me think about paid alternatives compared to Win Defender, considering my paid Kaspersky AV on my other machine is gonna die in 3 more months anyway.

Best one so far (value/performance/detection) is Avira AV Suite at RM95 (promo) for 3 years on unlimited (yes, unlimited) devices. That's like RM30 per year which is actually extremely good (vs the normal RM120 for ONE YEAR).

Especially for something that scores as good as Kaspersky on most AV comparative tests - AND something you can install on ALL the devices you own at no extra charge.

Of course there's Avira free too if you can stand the ads and the nag screens.

Currently downloading the Avira trial to see if it's really as resource friendly as they say.

The benchmark right now for me is ESET's NOD32 - been trying that one for a few days and it was like I was running nothing in the background. Unfortunately, it costs like RM120 for ONE PC and ONE year so it's considerably more expensive.

Plus Avira is actually better detection-wise VS NOD32 in most of the recent tests I‘ve seen so far.

Here's the Avira AV offer link if anybody's interested: http://bit.ly/1rCcEAm . The offer was SUPPOSED to end by 16 March 2014 so you better check it out really quick.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 30 2014, 02:38 AM

*Holy dual-postage Batman!*

BTW, you should be thankful you couldn't install Kaspersky. For the great detection that it offers, even the AV only version slows down my main laptop somewhat sometimes - and we're talking about a Haswell i7 machine with 16GB of RAM here.

Guess what a full Internet Security install would do to an Atom tablet with 2GB of RAM then lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 30 2014, 12:26 AM

thanks

I notice that too, but so far only kaspersky i trusted for my computer protection

next iconia is Aspire Switch 10?

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/29/acer-aspire-switch-10/

You're welcome. BTW, you should try out Avira, if even just the free version. It's really not bad.

I ended up buying the offer and installing it straight into the W4 and my older Core2Duo lappy with 1GB of RAM (read: very slow) - just to check if it REALLY does work on unlimited devices. It's working marvellously on both so far, with minimal slowdowns. It even caught quite a few viruses that have accumulated on the old lappy due to me letting Kaspersky lapse on it since 2009 - so it's definitely working.

As a bonus, I get the paid version of Avira for Android too, even if I really don't do Android AVs.

So far, for RM30 per year for 2 computers (plus a third one in 3 months and whatever else device I'm going to be buying in the span of the following 3 years) I'm not really complaining. Maybe I should even get another 3 year purchase on my spare email address, though I really doubt it works that way.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 30 2014, 10:33 AM

The offer already ended, gonna try the free for while