As i say, feel is a very subjective thing.

I feel it is ok but got friends will say maciam sampan. What can i do.

To this people, feel is confidence. Haha

Anyone can recommend me where to get Mugen Bodykit at PJ/KL area with good pricing and installation?

Different people have different perception, taste, requirement , expectation, etc and we choose something that suit our needs....thats why we have a variety of choice of what we want....there is no one size that fit it all....one man's meat could be another man's poison....

What brand tyres were you both using?

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What brand tyres were you both using?

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Falken Sincera 832 Ecorun....dirt cheap tyres....Rm175 per pieces....a little bit of noisy tyres but acceptable performance for short city burst like going to a mall, market etc....

Toyo DRB

Jazz with its stiffen suspension (compared to Vios) definitely gave a more reassuring feeling when driving fast. However no matter how much you stiffen the suspension, once you tried higher segment, there is no way to get rid of the sampan feeling at high speed. Usually the one holding the steering cant feel a thing because his/her body coordinate and accept those body roll because he/she anticipate it already.

Dude, i've owned worst sampans than this. I think i know what is acceptable and what is not that acceptable and i've done some not so sensible things with the rather unacceptable ones.

So, i do know my expectations. Just not other people and it is not within my powers to change their perception of things. Not to say that i am happy with my car. The lack of damping options really is a major drawback to the car especially setting the rear end up. But, it is not made to be a hot hatch or anything in that fashion in the first place. So, nothing much to expect.

Basically, i'd split labelling cars being stable into 2 major categories. The comfort / reassuring stable and the performance kaki type of stable by what i think their definiton of stable is.

The former although not really gonna hold the ground and sent every bumps, nooks and cranny up to shake your guts out but will still give you the feeling that it is more than capable at the speed you hurl it into. Sometimes good, sometimes dangerous.

The latter might be a grip monster but ain't gonna be friendly to anyone who has a brain to be jolted around.

With the introduction of electromagnetic damping. Things have changed considerably and it seems possible to have best of both worlds especially when forward radar level sensing techologies can be integrated further with the dampers. It looks like the future is definitely here but definitely not at the mass consumer levels yet.

I think you misunderstood. I'm not doubting you. I'm referring to those that you mention still feel like sampan.

I know, but i am just saying it.

Actually, the stock springs are not really that high a spring rate. Most aftermarket adjustable dampers provide spring rates double of what the stocks are at the rear.

I do actually think the stock dampers and spring makes the car feel quite a bit bumpy at slow speeds. But, at high speeds it don't quite feel so especially when you go through undulations on the road.

Well, as for the other people. I can't be bothered so much because they are have the assumption that asian cars all feel like one kind even before stepping into the car.

I try 15 inches stock E spec jazz can easily reach 180km/h with sport gear but starting feel unstable. Yeah everything stock

anyone know what type of reverse bulb is using for new honda jazz?

This post has been edited by Rambo_is_real: Mar 21 2016, 11:36 AM

holy shit you guys got balls. i feel unsafe even at 140 kmh. not to mention, FC dipped after 110kmh.

The feeling of unsafe got nothing to do with speed....i feel unsafe driving at 40km/h at residential area and feel safe at 160km/h in highway during less congested surrounding....

oh okay.

unstable.

that standard shit float like a sampan at 140kmh.

therefore, i feel unsafe.

In standard form, the jazz is meant for city roundaround and not for high speed driving....so the sampan feeling is expected.....the target market for jazz is housewives and college student or spare car....

Ball ball. Well, shit ain't got nothing to do with balls. More likely to do with lack of a brain.

He never put type r badge on his jazz. That is why.

Lot of cars also like sampan one la.

lol.

i commented on someone having balls driving it up 160kmh while i feel unsafe as the car float at 140kmh, suddenly i'm the one having impossible expectation?

that's some fucked up comprehension there.