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PC Audio Altec Lansing Fans Club (approaching 90 members), Sound Leadership For The Digital Age

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post Apr 22 2008, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Apr 22 2008, 08:32 PM)
currently, the sub is placed on the bed, next to the pc table
no other place i can put it, unless behind me where i'll be sitting
which is why i need a little longer cables
as of now, the audio/speakers cables are long enough liao, 3 meters for each speaker
am using the new cables now, and it's A LOT better than the original ones!
haha, am very satisfy now!
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my main concern now is the cable connecting the sub to the cpu
any extension being sold? any idea?

edit:
Mirai E by Kiroro doesn't "break" anymore even when it's at the top pitch! wheee!
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A LOT BETTER? can describe further more? hmm.gif

about the 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo cable, i advice you buy the better quality one if u want longer because it is signal cable, a path to carry the signal from your sound card to your speaker, so it is quite important.....but i don't know where to buy, because i never seek for it before.. tongue.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Apr 22 2008, 09:10 PM)
few things for sure, the bass seems to be deeper, not as shaky before
doesn't "break" at high pitch on certain songs, more clarity
er, don't really know how to describe
but it's definite suits my preference
should have change it earlier, hehe

so, it's calle 3.5mm stereo cable... i see, i see. thanks. shall be seeking that out soon
hi-fi shop?

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The satellite cable won't affect the bass la...lol doh.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Apr 22 2008, 09:27 PM)
it sure do, i suppose
did comparison with a number of songs, old cable, new cable
and it did sounds different between them!
or perhaps i was using the wrong words to describe it? haha!
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Ya, i agree the better cable improve the SQ and different if u use stock crap cable... rclxms.gif but won't affect the bass...only ur woofer placement can affect the bass response...
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post Apr 22 2008, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Apr 22 2008, 09:46 PM)
SQ = sound quality?
how does the sub placement would affect the bass response?
example?
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SQ = Sound Quality nod.gif (forum crap word sweat.gif )

Just do a simple test by urself...open the song with bass and u just walking around the room, u will notice the bass sound strong like hell in certain corner and weak like nothing in certain place...let the bass reflex port behind the woofer facing wall will maximize the bass effect..

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post Apr 22 2008, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(sucka3 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:00 PM)
me too wan to change my stock mx5021 cable....any suggestion whre to get a decent cable...any mod needed?..need some guidance..noob here.. icon_question.gif
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Ask domo_kun....i live in JB now, can't help you...just change the cable, no mod needed...

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post Apr 23 2008, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(junclj @ Apr 23 2008, 09:10 AM)
All Altec Lansing have 2 different weights.

He already mention that old subwoofer heavy than new version subwoofer. Actually it is not old or new version, just the wood which used to made the subwoofer.

This is the catalogue for MX5021
http://www.soundsrus.co.nz/pdf/alteclansing-mx5021.pdf

You can go to second page check the weight of master carton and display carton.

2 different weights for MX5021
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45.2pounds = 20.5KG
22.3pounds = 10.11KG

Two different weights because one is made by master wood another more light is made by display wood.

What is your opinion about the sound quality between these two different weights sub?

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P/S: i feel master wood better leh~~ because the comparison of dimensions. Bass area larger.
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I think your findings are well worth for discussing, anyone here want to comment on it? hmm.gif

BTW, i don't think you can get the heavier version of MX5021 nowadays...

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post Apr 23 2008, 10:36 AM

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i won't claim myself is 'victim' until i hear the heavy version...


Added on April 23, 2008, 10:38 am
QUOTE(junclj @ Apr 23 2008, 10:35 AM)
Master carton deliver powerful bass and the bass is softer, but the bass always loud not mean it is nice.

Display carton create vibration, reflecting inside the subwoofer box and shaking the air to produce bass but will absorb some sound that why compare to master carton is a bit smaller bass dimensions.

It is difficult to choose, because if i want listen to soft bass but cannot want the bass make vibration in the same time. I know vibration is quite geng, make everything around are shaking.

This is one of my friend opinion as he used his Altec Lansing for 8 years. It is very good quality because his old 5.1 system still very nice as it has 3D surround.
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No, actually u have no rights to choose whether u want master carton or display carton woofer, AL just release the display carton to substitute the heavy one...

And can u ask your friend create account here so that we can discuss and sharing experience on AL speaker... tongue.gif

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post Apr 23 2008, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Apr 23 2008, 04:56 PM)
haha, i don't know if mine is consider as the heavy one or the lighter one. how you check, anyway... i think i threw the box out quite some time now...

by the way, just bought a 3 meter 3.5mm audio cable a while ago. going to test it later when i get home. how to judge if it's of a good quality or a not so good quality ones? i checked on a few shops, and most of them are selling the same type of 3.5mm audio cable la, hmm
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refer to the pic of Faint, if ur speaker look like new version, then your one is lighter and 'cut cost'....

no way to judge the cable is good quality or not, but the first thing most people do is let this cable as stort as possible...

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post Apr 23 2008, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Faint @ Apr 23 2008, 05:50 PM)
Yours one is new version or old version ? Mind share how you tune your MX5021's level of treble and bass, and any equalizer of your sound card and volume setting in windows ?!  laugh.gif
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New version....

err...i didn't touch my speaker bass and treble setting, now just at 'perfect' middle level (turn up bass and treble until to 4th LED and decrease 7 step from 4th LED, then u will get 'perfect middle level' sweat.gif )

For the EQ, i didn't use SC EQ, i use Winamp EQ + Electri-Q paragraphic EQ...The volume in Windows was 85% for master and wave...Attached Image

The EQ i set only suit my room condition, i try this setting at my friend's room, need to reconfigure certain curve....i only apply EQ in Music, gaming and movie just let it perform in default...

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post Apr 23 2008, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Apr 23 2008, 07:02 PM)
@ Faint
how come your speaker does not have the "net" cover?

@ coolkwc
er, mine got the "net" cover for the speakers and the sub
means it's new version, or what? haha
why as short as possible la?
adoi, my table really got no place for the sub
unless, i clear off the printer, haha
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The 'net' is dust shield...i ask u look at the driver itself, not the 'net' cover, lol rclxm9.gif ...and the dust shield can remove actually...

This cable carrying small voltage signal from your sc to speaker, if the cable is long, then the possibility of getting electromagnetic disturbance along the signal path will be higher, and if the cable used is long and thin, then the signal lost will be greater, eventually causing SQ degradation...


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post Apr 23 2008, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Apr 23 2008, 07:30 PM)
oh, it's called dust shield, haha
won't be calling it "net" cover liao!
by the way, which one is the light version, then?
the one with 2 circular thing on the speaker? or what?
i'm one hell of a confused man!
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the one with '2 circular thing' is old version, original version, or heavy version... sweat.gif
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post Apr 24 2008, 05:53 PM

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So far i didn't found any review claim that the 'new' MX5021 isn't THX certified, i typed 'old MX5021','new version MX5021','cut cost MX5021','old MX5021 vs new MX5021','MX5021 no THX certified' in the google search, u know what's the outcome? Our Lowyat thread almost appear first in the search results, so i can't find any evidence to claim the new MX5021 isn't THX certified...


Added on April 24, 2008, 5:54 pm
QUOTE(downcreek @ Apr 24 2008, 04:13 PM)
if u feel good with this speaker....no need la if it THX certified or not...hehehe...
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QUOTE(sucka3 @ Apr 24 2008, 04:24 PM)
walaueh ..all mx5021 issue here...bought my years ago...freakin heavy sweat.gif ..dunno my belong to the old version or the new version...sounds great nonetheless..now..followin domo_kun advise...findin better cable for it.. laugh.gif...even my old atp3 is still workin great.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Faint @ Apr 23 2008, 05:39 PM)
One thing I'm not sure is, is it the Display carton woofer is the cut cost version of MX5021 ?

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no need to freak, as long as u feel satisfied with it... refer the pic above, if your satellite same as the one which has 'one little circular'(call dust cap) on the center of driver, then yours MX is old version, otherwise, 'cut cost' as ours... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sucka3 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:10 PM)
lolz....mine dont hav the circle thingy on the satellite..so new version?? sweat.gif ...but i also listen to the old version b4 as my fren has one...sound pretty the same..onli the bass is not as wide spreaded as his...dunno how to explain in audio theory...sori for my noobness.. notworthy.gif
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History, historyyyy shocking.gif i think you are the first in this thread who listen to old and new version, u are the one i want to find....come on, decribe further... brows.gif

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QUOTE(junclj @ Apr 23 2008, 09:10 AM)
All Altec Lansing have 2 different weights.

He already mention that old subwoofer heavy than new version subwoofer. Actually it is not old or new version, just the wood which used to made the subwoofer.

This is the catalogue for MX5021
http://www.soundsrus.co.nz/pdf/alteclansing-mx5021.pdf

You can go to second page check the weight of master carton and display carton.

2 different weights for MX5021
user posted image

45.2pounds = 20.5KG
22.3pounds = 10.11KG

Two different weights because one is made by master wood another more light is made by display wood.

What is your opinion about the sound quality between these two different weights sub?

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P/S: i feel master wood better leh~~ because the comparison of dimensions. Bass area larger.
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@sucka3
your claim almost match his finding...

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QUOTE(sucka3 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:30 PM)
lolz..didnt notice...that post..my bad.. doh.gif
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but bass wide spread or not actually depends on room condition, how about put that two side by side to compare with...lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sucka3 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:34 PM)
how to compare...my fren change speaker liao..upgrade to aego liao..i think he ditch his old mx5021 liao...so long dy.. doh.gif...me poor maintain at mx5021 onli.. sweat.gif
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poor? lol.....then how Aego compare to MX?
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QUOTE(sucka3 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:50 PM)
read for urself..My Webpage..basically..i think aego sounds better for music is does perform better than mx5021 in music...in bass term..i cant really notice the significant difference....but on the size n price wise..is quite a big difference... laugh.gif
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no need to give me that link, i read a lot adi...AegoM only RM650, u can serach at Lowyat bulk section...

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QUOTE(sucka3 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:55 PM)
so..u should noe the difference..different need for other people..i cant speak on behalf of them...i like mx5021..personally..more than aego m..well that is jus my personal liking..others might not agree.. tongue.gif..i bought mine mx5021 below rm400.. laugh.gif
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i don't know the different since i haven't listen to it, comment from user can't convince me, i trust my ear...ya, different people got different need, so just stick with it if u like it...
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QUOTE(isildur88 @ Apr 24 2008, 07:08 PM)
i bought my mx5021 for 560+ i think from allit last year 30th december(for new year)... hehehe... but now i have a problem... my audio jack for my lappy lose a bit... so sometimes halfway through a song it die off... haiz... can i repair it ka?
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what is 'audio jack for my lappy'? state properly...
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QUOTE(isildur88 @ Apr 24 2008, 07:15 PM)
aiya.... soli2.... my audio output for my lappy...
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