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PC Audio Altec Lansing Fans Club (approaching 90 members), Sound Leadership For The Digital Age

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PcWork
post Dec 12 2006, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(mango27 @ Dec 10 2006, 02:41 PM)
im not rich la... need to save $$$ one ok...
narkon maybe u r right la... i heard from my frens oso... buy Rm200++ one enuf d...
those other expensive soundcards only make alot of different for 5.1 or 7.1...
so its Soundblaster Audigy 4 ok ??
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not nessecery. EMU0404 is a stereo card. not multichannel.


QUOTE(narkon @ Dec 12 2006, 01:50 PM)
same with me...at first the treble r to loud rite??...after using dfx n adjust the equalizer...then satisfied...mango,how do u adjust??...can u teach me??
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usually i prefer listen song with all EQ and dfx off. i found it is more natural and beautiful.
if on eq, especially software EQ. it will some how shrink sound stage and the "fullness" of the midrange. sound very metal/ digital..


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post Dec 12 2006, 03:07 PM

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so do u know how to adjust cs21 equ??..can teach me??....
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post Dec 12 2006, 10:57 PM

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nah... i juz simply adjust the eq only... adjust till okok then can d... haha...
now juz waiting to buy a sound card...

anyway... PcWork... where to buy EMU 0404 ?? i check lowyat pricelist dun have ler...
Manufacturer E-MU or Creative 1 ??? Creative 1 can find la...
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post Dec 12 2006, 11:16 PM

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smile.gif if your speakers is good enough to produce accurate music, then there's no point tuning the equalizers. For me i just set all EQ to flat and turn my bass knob to minimum.

EMU0404 you can get it from ALL IT. The price is RM500+ smile.gif Manufacturer is from Creative, but this is not average Joe's card though... they don't label it "Professional" for nothing. If you were to get this card, be prepared to fork out another RM100 to get a custom breakout as the 0404 doesn't come with standard 3.5mm jack.
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post Dec 12 2006, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Dec 12 2006, 11:16 PM)
smile.gif if your speakers is good enough to produce accurate music, then there's no point tuning the equalizers. For me i just set all EQ to flat and turn my bass knob to minimum.

EMU0404 you can get it from ALL IT. The price is RM500+ smile.gif Manufacturer is from Creative, but this is not average Joe's card though... they don't label it "Professional" for nothing. If you were to get this card, be prepared to fork out another RM100 to get a custom breakout as the 0404 doesn't come with standard 3.5mm jack.
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lol i don't make it anymore. perhaps ask other ppl DIY can also..
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by the way.... i always turn my EQ off even on AC97.
weiredo, i think akabane EMU soundcard is NOT from creative.. it's from EMU itself...
just knew EMU also a brand , bought by creative... hehehe

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post Dec 13 2006, 12:11 AM

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ya... those IT shops only selling Creative brand...
but i checked those review its EMU brand itself...
maybe creative have bought it down...
PcWork is right... ask other ppl do... haha...
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post Dec 13 2006, 12:11 AM

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laugh.gif i'm quoting the price of Midi Specialist leh, your cables are much much cheaper smile.gif

EMU not from Creative? The full name for the 0404 card is "Creative Professional EMU0404" wo laugh.gif
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post Dec 13 2006, 12:15 AM

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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/0404/

one of the review i found from google...
Manufacturer: E-MU
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post Dec 13 2006, 12:19 AM

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smile.gif i'm very sure the 0404 is from Creative though, as i still have the original box which bears the "Creative" name on it. Maybe Creative bought up this E-MU company years ago.

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My box is same with this except the Japanese wordings
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post Dec 13 2006, 12:38 AM

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haha... sud b lor...
i think i'll get it after christmas...
RM 500 not cheap oso...
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post Dec 15 2006, 08:11 AM

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Hi, all AL fans... hows life going on? so glad to get so many replies from you all... well, probably you can share what you paired your speaker with and probably its settings...

for me..

SB Audigy 2 -> MX5021 -> Rock -> TTplayer (Direct Sound)

hehe... i always feel a set of MX5021 is not enough... thinking to get another set of MX5021 to upgrade my pc to 4.2 .... tongue.gif
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post Dec 15 2006, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Dec 13 2006, 12:19 AM)
smile.gif i'm very sure the 0404 is from Creative though, as i still have the original box which bears the "Creative" name on it. Maybe Creative bought up this E-MU company years ago.

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My box is same with this except the Japanese wordings
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akabane drjacker's EMU is from EMU brand itself
i did some search and found out, that creative bought over the whole EMU company and comes creative EMU Series, while before this creative were famous for it's live series.
and IMHO, the built quality of EMU brand looks better than Creative version of EMU.
and some review also conclude that EMU from EMU is better than EMU from creative.. WTF i am talking.. laugh.gif

Thread starter, put me in the list
i have TWO acs295, and one ATP3

This post has been edited by PcWork: Dec 15 2006, 10:39 AM
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post Dec 15 2006, 01:46 PM

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hi all...may i ask...is all sound card can compatible with all type of speaker???...eg:AL only can use certain tpe of sd,edifier only can use certain type of sd...can sum1 explain??....thanx biggrin.gif
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post Dec 15 2006, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(narkon @ Dec 15 2006, 01:46 PM)
hi all...may i ask...is all sound card can compatible with all type of speaker???...eg:AL only can use certain tpe of sd,edifier only can use certain type of sd...can sum1 explain??....thanx biggrin.gif
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no. normally sound card will use standard 3.5mm mini stereo plug, which is sort of Universal for all headphone / earphone.
though some headphone might come with big stereo plug (1/4" Stereo)
but they will comes with adapter so that u can plug it into3.5mm
some special soudcard like ESI / EMU0404 uses some different plugs, ESI using standard RCA line out, and emu0404 has it own custom breakout which built from D9 (serial port) plug.

but nothings else to worry, u can buy speaker, then change the cable.
for good example, i had sold some EMU0404 D9 breakout, and some Stereo-Rca plug for people use with AEGO M (which takes RCA) and stereo-stereo (standard speaker-sound card) and some RCA-RCA (ESI to Aego M).

hope this help.
normally we see RCA out, Stereo out, and on EMU0404 is D9 out, EMU1212 is phono plug (Big Mono plugs)
however, except EMU, RCA and stereo out is very common (perhaps 98% in the market, and can be changes through cable easily, and widely available.)
while EMU0404 and EMU1212 is a bit rare, but still common plugs we can find and do it ourself incase the plugs is damage/ missing.
so
Teorically, all sound card can support ALL speaker
except u can't put a 7.1 speaker into a 5.1 soundcard.
or EMU0404 (stereo, 2.0/2.1) into edifier R501 MKII (5.1) else u will only get two channel sound.
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post Dec 15 2006, 02:29 PM

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but if 5.1 sd use for 2.1 speaker no prob rite/??...better to buy7.1 sound card terus for future use???or if 2.1 sound card give more/optimum performance for 2.1 speaker?
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post Dec 15 2006, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(narkon @ Dec 15 2006, 02:29 PM)
but if 5.1 sd use for 2.1 speaker no prob rite/??...better to buy7.1 sound card terus for future use???or if 2.1 sound card give more/optimum performance  for 2.1 speaker?
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no problems.
but it's not how many channel u should put in first place. normally people will buy soundcard according to it's sound quality.
and the spec. because most of sound card in market is mostly 5.1 already.

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post Dec 15 2006, 02:51 PM

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if you use 5.1 soundcard for 2.1 speakers, you won't get to hear surround sound as "front left/right and rear left/right" channels will be produced by your 2 satellites only. You'll have a clearer picture if you imagine yourself using a pair of headphones - you can hear surround sound delivered from the left and right driver, but not front and rear channels.

i'm not sure whether 5.1/7.1 soundcards perform well with 2.1 speakers, and i don't know is there any good surround soundcards around. Perhaps i would say if you plan to upgrade to surround sound in future time, getting a multi-channel soundcard will be a better choice for you. But for most of us here, stereo cards suit us the best. ESI JULI@, EMU0404, EMU1212m, AV710...
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post Dec 15 2006, 02:56 PM

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okay...thanx.. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 15 2006, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(narkon @ Dec 15 2006, 02:56 PM)
okay...thanx.. biggrin.gif
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perhaps u can get philips pc805.
it perform pretty well and it's a multichannel soundcard (5.1)

QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Dec 13 2006, 12:11 AM)
laugh.gif i'm quoting the price of Midi Specialist leh, your cables are much much cheaper smile.gif

EMU not from Creative? The full name for the 0404 card is "Creative Professional EMU0404" wo laugh.gif
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i will be very appreciate rclxm9.gif if u want to pay me extra or same amount as midi specialist.. =P


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QUOTE(PcWork @ Dec 15 2006, 03:02 PM)
i will be very appreciate  rclxm9.gif  if u want to pay me extra or same amount as midi specialist.. =P
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icon_idea.gif lolz you'll never stop persuading me to get a cable from you!

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