Ask domo_kun....i live in JB now, can't help you...just change the cable, no mod needed...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 22 2008, 10:08 PM

I have a question to ask here, its about the differences between the weight of Altec Lansing. Anybody here know the material used for making Altec Lansing subwoofer which are master carton and display carton?

I know the weight of master carton is heavier than display carton. This Monday I was decided to order an Altec Lansing FX5051 at lelong. I was went in and ask the pczonecomputer seller. Then he reply me the weight is 20kg, shipping to east malaysia will be very expensive (because i am staying in Miri). He give me the shipping rate RM216.

Later, I go to moresales Malaysia reseller website and ask for the seller. I go in from FX6021 and sent an email to them. Then they reply me, currently FX6021 no stock and the weight of FX5051 is 10kg, therefore shipping rate is around RM80.

Suddenly, I confuse already. I check back the catalogue master carton weight 19kg and display carton weight 9.5kg. I dont understand why have these two different weights. I find dictionary the word master have what other meaning besides the meaning of master like sifoo and the master like postgraduate of university. I still cannot find any answers. Then display also same dont have much others definitions from dictionary.

What I say is just guessing. I go google do research, I am realized that master carton is an original wood get from tree and display carton is a man-made wood which use for making notice board, boxes and so on.

I go ask one of my friend because he is pro about speakers and before he introduce to me Altec Lansing is the best speaker. What he say is both subwoofer either made from master carton or display carton have their difference advantages.

He say something like master carton subwoofer release the bass softer and more powerful, but the bass cannot too soft or too hard and the bass must release accurate. And then he say display carton subwoofer is more on making vibration. The display wood help reflect the sound from woofer and make the bass sound maintain longer.

I still cant get the conclusion which one has better sound quality.............

This post has been edited by junclj: Apr 23 2008, 06:39 AM

i got it from Ace Hardware in Jaya33
rm1.30 per meter, and there's another type rm2.00 per meter
there's one pack being displayed as "studio quality", rm80+ for 50 feet!
but i don't see any difference between the rm1.30 and rm2.00
that's why i opt for rm1.30 cables, hehe


my colleague just told me that he knew such extension for 3.5mm stereo cable in batu pahat
but he's not willing to look out for me as he's not going back to his hometown any time soon...


@ junclj
i did my research on speakers back then for a few months
but in the end, i ended up buying one that is WAYYYYY out of my budget!
and i'm enjoying every bit of it!


This post has been edited by domo_kun: Apr 23 2008, 08:15 AM

All Altec Lansing have 2 different weights.

He already mention that old subwoofer heavy than new version subwoofer. Actually it is not old or new version, just the wood which used to made the subwoofer.

This is the catalogue for MX5021
http://www.soundsrus.co.nz/pdf/alteclansing-mx5021.pdf

You can go to second page check the weight of master carton and display carton.

2 different weights for MX5021


45.2pounds = 20.5KG
22.3pounds = 10.11KG

Two different weights because one is made by master wood another more light is made by display wood.

What is your opinion about the sound quality between these two different weights sub?

update
P/S: i feel master wood better leh~~ because the comparison of dimensions. Bass area larger.

This post has been edited by junclj: Apr 23 2008, 09:13 AM

I think your findings are well worth for discussing, anyone here want to comment on it?

BTW, i don't think you can get the heavier version of MX5021 nowadays...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 23 2008, 10:07 AM

Actually both also have advantages. Nowadays, most seller sell the display carton version. It is easier to carry and more convenience.

Your MX5021 is heavy version or light version ?

No no no, buyer has no advantage in this point.
We're paying the same price for different quality of speaker. For those who own the light version of MX5021 was unfair... I'm the one of the victim.

Master carton deliver powerful bass and the bass is softer, but the bass always loud not mean it is nice.

Display carton create vibration, reflecting inside the subwoofer box and shaking the air to produce bass but will absorb some sound that why compare to master carton is a bit smaller bass dimensions.

It is difficult to choose, because if i want listen to soft bass but cannot want the bass make vibration in the same time. I know vibration is quite geng, make everything around are shaking.

This is one of my friend opinion as he used his Altec Lansing for 8 years. It is very good quality because his old 5.1 system still very nice as it has 3D surround.

This post has been edited by junclj: Apr 23 2008, 10:35 AM

i won't claim myself is 'victim' until i hear the heavy version...

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Added on April 23, 2008, 10:38 amNo, actually u have no rights to choose whether u want master carton or display carton woofer, AL just release the display carton to substitute the heavy one...

And can u ask your friend create account here so that we can discuss and sharing experience on AL speaker...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 23 2008, 10:43 AM

haha, i don't know if mine is consider as the heavy one or the lighter one. how you check, anyway... i think i threw the box out quite some time now...

by the way, just bought a 3 meter 3.5mm audio cable a while ago. going to test it later when i get home. how to judge if it's of a good quality or a not so good quality ones? i checked on a few shops, and most of them are selling the same type of 3.5mm audio cable la, hmm


This post has been edited by domo_kun: Apr 23 2008, 05:01 PM

One thing I'm not sure is, is it the Display carton woofer is the cut cost version of MX5021 ?

refer to the pic of Faint, if ur speaker look like new version, then your one is lighter and 'cut cost'....

no way to judge the cable is good quality or not, but the first thing most people do is let this cable as stort as possible...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 23 2008, 05:50 PM

Yours one is new version or old version ? Mind share how you tune your MX5021's level of treble and bass, and any equalizer of your sound card and volume setting in windows ?!

New version....

err...i didn't touch my speaker bass and treble setting, now just at 'perfect' middle level (turn up bass and treble until to 4th LED and decrease 7 step from 4th LED, then u will get 'perfect middle level' )

For the EQ, i didn't use SC EQ, i use Winamp EQ + Electri-Q paragraphic EQ...The volume in Windows was 85% for master and wave...

The EQ i set only suit my room condition, i try this setting at my friend's room, need to reconfigure certain curve....i only apply EQ in Music, gaming and movie just let it perform in default...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Oct 24 2008, 01:58 AM

@ Faint
how come your speaker does not have the "net" cover?

@ coolkwc
er, mine got the "net" cover for the speakers and the sub
means it's new version, or what? haha
why as short as possible la?
adoi, my table really got no place for the sub
unless, i clear off the printer, haha

This post has been edited by domo_kun: Apr 23 2008, 07:04 PM

The 'net' is dust shield...i ask u look at the driver itself, not the 'net' cover, lol ...and the dust shield can remove actually...

This cable carrying small voltage signal from your sc to speaker, if the cable is long, then the possibility of getting electromagnetic disturbance along the signal path will be higher, and if the cable used is long and thin, then the signal lost will be greater, eventually causing SQ degradation...

The MX5021 shown in picture above does not belong to me.
I didn't or try to remove the dust shield from my speaker because I want keep it inside clean.

oh, it's called dust shield, haha
won't be calling it "net" cover liao!
by the way, which one is the light version, then?
the one with 2 circular thing on the speaker? or what?
i'm one hell of a confused man!

the one with '2 circular thing' is old version, original version, or heavy version...

oh, that means the heavy version is the better one? haha
eh, heavy? even the one i'm having also heavy la
can't imagine how heavy the heavy version is then...