Sadly, it is pretty common for flers here to sell complimentary merchandise or tickets for personal profit. Still, I hope an investigation is carried out and the guilty culprits are weeded out.
At one point, Teri Hatcher wrapped in Superman's cape was the most downloaded image on the internet and I can understand why. Have always thought she was hot since she had a reoccurring role on MacGyver. Young uns will have no idea who that is of course.
Arguments can be healthy but in my opinion, hoping that a Liverpool player screws up to prove a point is ludicrous. Have always preferred to debate face-to-face than over the internet. The tone of the conversation changes if you know or have met the person.
Man, you guys will never stop harping on this. So now, I'm hoping a Liv player to fail in this case Joseph Michael Allen?
Great, go on keep on throwing accusations in, putting words in my mouth.
My stand is very clear from the start, Joe Allen is not fit to play for Liverpool. None of you including led zep have prove to me, he has what it takes to move Liverpool forward. This is not something I concluded based on a few games, this is based on a long season observations, of course Allen lovers were quick jump on the trigger and bashed me. So far, you all just nitpicking on my posts but lacks substance when it comes to providing factual evidence, that Allen actually suited to play for Liverpool.
Look, you are a loyal fan and I respect your passion and conviction, seriously. But to keep on refuting and denying something that is blatantly obvious? You were acting the same when Charlie Adam, Henderson, Downing were brought into the club. Almost all of them are no longer in the club.
What does it show? "Oh it's carloz28 again with his negativity and pessimism that causes these players to underperform"...LOL
Awaiting more essays now and personal attacks.
This post has been edited by carloz28: Oct 18 2013, 11:14 AM
Man, you guys will never stop harping on this. So now, I'm hoping a Liv player to fail in this case Joseph Michael Allen?
Great, go on keep on throwing accusations in, putting words in my mouth.
My stand is very clear from the start, Joe Allen is not fit to play for Liverpool. None of you including led zep have prove to me, he has what it takes to move Liverpool forward. This is not something I concluded based on a few games, this is based on a long season observations, of course Allen lovers were quick jump on the trigger and bashed me. So far, you all just nitpicking on my posts but lacks substance when it comes to provide factual evidence, that Allen actually suited to play for Liverpool.
Look, you are a loyal fan and I respect your passion and conviction, seriously. But to keep on refuting and denying something that is blatantly obvious? You were acting the same when Charlie Adam, Henderson, Downing were brought into the club. Almost all of them are no longer in the club.
What does it show? "Oh it's carloz28 again with his negativity and pessimism that causes these players to underperform"...LOL
Awaiting more essays now and personal attacks.
Note that I mentioned Allen isn't good enough to start at the moment BUT I would like to see him get a couple of games under his belt in his preferred position. Indeed he under-performed for much of last season but I maintain that it's unfair to make a judgement call when he had to play much deeper than he usually does. Yesterday he was quoted as saying he'd like the opportunity to play further up the park and I reckon it's only fair he be given the opportunity to prove us all wrong. Again, I agree he isn't good enough to be in the first 11 at the moment. In terms of evidence, he has always done well for us when he's been played further forward. There were a couple of games last season (can't remember who against) where he came off the bench and almost bagged himself a couple of goals. He's also had a good pre-season playing in the opposition half, thanks largely to the return of Lucas.
In regards to the trio of Brits you mentioned, I would like them to have done well. Downing was one of our more effective players last season which is the reason he was an automatic choice. I never said Adam was a good player. In fact, I didn't think we should have signed him but I did say that he was worth as much as we paid for him i.e. $6.75 million pounds. Henderson is getting better evidently. I've no issues calling a dud, a dud when they have been given sufficient opportunities in their preferred positions e.g. Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen.
On the issue of your stance on Allen, you did also say that all British players are crap but failed to note that we have had just as many foreign duds. Also, you've not acknowledged that some of our better performers this season and last have been English. This includes promising talent - Glen Johnson, Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher, Daniel Sturridge, Martin Kelly. Speaking of evidence, I see no conclusive reason why English players are crappier than any of the foreign flops we've signed? I'm not a fan of England but like you, I'd like to see factual evidence as well.
Huh? How did you end up with the conclusion that I accused you of affecting a player's performance? Giving yourself a little too much credit. What I did say is if all fans got on the backs of players when they do under-perform, you'd not hear the Kop sing YNWA after every game, or we would not have heard that rendition of YNWA during half-time in Istanbul. I maintain that unconditional support for players trying their best is a compulsory attribute, but doing so doesn't mean that we cannot call a spade, a spade.
This post has been edited by Duke Red: Oct 18 2013, 11:29 AM
1. Not good enough in certain bed positions - OUT 2. Dont know how to make a good Milo - OUT 3. Not gentle enough in her sweet talk - OUT 4. Not understanding towards his negative opinions - OUT and DISAPPEAR FOREVER 5. Waist is more than 25'- OUT 6. Dont know how to cook a good Sushi - OUT
and the list goes on. How can this guy ever find happiness? LOL. Seriously, pity c28. Please come out and join your brothers in gathering. We will cheer you up and make you feel like a family.
Liverpool U21 5 Tottenham 0 U21 - Freaking Awesome - Watch Out 4 This 4 @ Brad Smith (England U16s LB - So good attacking we now played him as attacking RWF) @ Ryan McLaughlin (Northern Ireland U21s RB - So good in attack..we now played him as attacking LWF) - One word..No Glen Johnson..No Problem. GJ Mark 2. No Joke. - Compose as a Right Back. Attack as well as Glen. Comparable with Kyle Walker - Much more a ready all around starter compare to Flanagan/Wisdom (Will attached an article. Please Read) @ Cameron Brannagan - Cameron Brannagan has been at the Academy since he was U9 level. T - he youngster likes to take up a position just behind the frontman. - A flexible talent, Brannagan can also operate on either wing. - A creative and inventive midfielder, Brannagan has the ability to fashion opportunities for his teammates as well take them himself. Reference @ LFC.tv
Ryan McLaughlin: Next to make it at Liverpool FC? By Adam Griffies on October 14, 2013
Could young Northern Irishman Ryan McLaughlin be the next player to make the step up from the academy into Liverpool’s first-team squad? @whatahitsonlfc thinks he already should be.
Last summer, in Brendan Rodgers’ second game as manager of Liverpool, Ryan McLaughlin lined up for the Reds against Roma in a friendly at the prodigious Fenway Park.
439 days later (last Monday to be less precise), having not since made an appearance for the Reds’ senior side (non-competitive matches included), McLaughlin, who recently turned 19, capped an impressive performance by scoring and assisting a goal for Liverpool Under-21s in their 5-0 win over Spurs.
A pacy attacking right-back by trade, Under-21s’ coach Alex Inglethorpe sprung a tactical surprise by deploying McLaughlin in a left-inside-forward role from the start. It allowed the tricky Northern Irishman to affect the game centrally; running inside diagonally and directly on his preferred right foot at the opposing defence.
Although the entire Liverpool side excelled throughout the game, McLaughlin stood out in my opinion: something he has done near enough every time I have seen him play for the Under-21s or 18s. So why is he yet to be selected, competitively, for the Reds’ senior side, or even figure in a match-day squad?
The simple answer is I don’t know. And rather than try to offer a hollow explanation, I’m going to bemoan his lack of opportunities.
This time last year, Raheem Sterling, Suso and Andre Wisdom – aged 17, 18 and 19 at the time – had racked up 10 starts in Liverpool’s opening seven 2012/13 Premier League games between them. This season the trio, combined, have started just two of the Reds’ opening seven league matches, with Suso sent out on loan to La Liga’s Almeria to get playing time.
Did Liverpool’s rocky start to last campaign sap manager Brendan Rodgers’ faith in the club’s young talent? Or rather less cynically, has the Reds’ deeper senior squad caused a decrease in reliance on youth?
For me it’s a combination of the two; Rodgers and his recruitment team have worked hard to put meat on the bones, so to speak, of Liverpool’s squad, but there’s a fine line between siding with senior players and being overly cautious with youngsters. It’s a line that, in my opinion, the manager is towing perilously in regards to Ryan McLaughlin.
So whilst being fairly understanding of Brendan Rodgers’ desire to build a broader, more experienced squad and rely less on Academy prospects, why am I so adamant in my advocation of a senior opportunity for the 19-year-old?
Natural fit
Well, in my opinion, the last month or so has been the ideal time for McLaughlin to have been given his chance. Since Glen Johnson got injured against Manchester United, four players have been selected at right-back or right-wing-back for Liverpool – Andre Wisdom, Kolo Toure, Jordan Henderson and Raheem Sterling – all of whom are better suited to other positions.
The Reds have been yearning for an attacking right-back, who is naturally suited to the role. But, despite the ideal candidate being right under his nose, Brendan Rodgers has uncharacteristically taken the pragmatic measure of reshuffling his senior players’ positions in an attempt to combat Johnson’s absence.
Liverpool’s last two league fixtures have also been against teams currently struggling and subsequently sitting in the bottom three of the division, which would have offered a chance to ease McLaughlin into first-team action, perhaps lessening pressure and defensive responsibilities.
The most significant point I’d like to make about the Belfast-born 19-year-old, though, is that contrastingly to right-backs from the club’s Academy who have previously been handed a first-team opportunity (Jon Flanagan and the aforementioned Wisdom), McLaughlin seamlessly suits Brendan Rodgers’ fluid, possession-based footballing philosophy.
The Reds’ manager last season described Jamie Carragher as “a pure defender”, and I’d say the likes of Flanagan and Wisdom fall closer to that description than the marauding, technical species of full-backs that unequivocally befit our system more effectively.
Appropriately, back in 2011, McLaughlin explained how he models his game on arguably the best attacking full-back in world football, Dani Alves. “Everyone knows how good he is going forward but that guy can defend too,” the Northern Irishman remarked. “You can see that when he goes up against Ronaldo at Real Madrid. I watch him to try and pick up bits because I rate him as the complete right-back.”
At McLaughlin’s age, Alves was easing his way into Sevilla’s senior team, after being trusted with an initial opportunity. Whilst displacing Glen Johnson in Liverpool’s first-team is currently highly unlikely, I’d like to see McLaughlin ahead of names like Wisdom, Toure, Henderson and Sterling in the right-back/right-wing-back pecking order; the 19-year-old Northern Irishman is a natural in the positions at least!
@ Koke (Atletico Madrid youngster) - Forget what paper say that they getting him. They Whe Herrara not Koke - We finding way to fund a moved to him.
@ Will Hughes (Derby 1st Team Starter) - Still 18 - We look fovourite to sign him - We didnt push the deal thru in the summer coz deby wanyed 10mil. With other suitors are interested. Probabaly we will push thru if we can fork out 18mil for Koke service
It's either KOKE o Will Hughes "Watch This Space"
LFC want to meet Martin Montoya Agent - Barca youth RB prospect - Contract running out end 2014 summer. - Creditable source said we look to add him... WTF...If he comes in..All Our"Youth Right Back" 1st dreams will b DEAD.
This video was posted some time back I believe. Personally, I take any bit of hype involving youth players with huge doses of salt. Too many have flattered to deceive. Paul Anderson was tipped for greatness as was Richie Partridge but neither are plying their trade in the Premiership. We made Mark Kennedy the most expensive teenager in England at the time but he only managed 18 starts for us. Stephen Darby was captain of our youth team that won 2 back-to-back FA Cup titles and was on the verge of breaking into the first team, only to be released. Reckon the emergence of one Martin Kelly has something to do with this.
Still, I hope the lad comes good. Seems we have a surplus of talent coming through the ranks at the back. When fully fit, we have the likes of Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Enrique, Wisdom, Kelly, Ilori, Coates, Toure, Cissokho and Sakho vying for starting berths. Probably the reason why we're playing 3-5-2.
1. Not good enough in certain bed positions - OUT 2. Dont know how to make a good Milo - OUT 3. Not gentle enough in her sweet talk - OUT 4. Not understanding towards his negative opinions - OUT and DISAPPEAR FOREVER 5. Waist is more than 25'- OUT 6. Dont know how to cook a good Sushi - OUT
and the list goes on. How can this guy ever find happiness? LOL. Seriously, pity c28. Please come out and join your brothers in gathering. We will cheer you up and make you feel like a family.
For the record, would prefer not to bring your spouse or gf into discussion. I took serious offence on that subject. Thanks for your understanding dillon.
As the TS dillon I think you should not add fuel to the fire by making personal attacks on c28.I disagree with him on allen but I respect his opinions.
You should maintain decorum on here.You are like the speaker of parliament;there has to be impartiality from you.Relative if not absolute.
I feel the game against Newcastle couldn't come any sooner..too much debate going on in here..at least the game would provide something else to talk about..
As the TS dillon I think you should not add fuel to the fire by making personal attacks on c28.I disagree with him on allen but I respect his opinions.
You should maintain decorum on here.You are like the speaker of parliament;there has to be impartiality from you.Relative if not absolute.
The TS' job is an effing boring one. Sucks being you dillon.
I feel the game against Newcastle couldn't come any sooner..too much debate going on in here..at least the game would provide something else to talk about..
You know as well as I do that unless we pummel them by a rugby score margin, have 90% of the possession and everyone turns in a match winning performance, we'll be at odds again la, not that I mind. The world would be a really boring place if we all agreed on everything.
[@Duke Red[ Bro. I got what u mean. U ask me Anderson & Partridge? I see Ryan McLaughlin & Brad Smith a well prospect than Flanagan & Wisdom. Just like Kelly..when i first see him play. Dam...can't wait to see him played regularly ..same goes to Robinson. I didn't have faith on Adam Morgan. I know McLaughlin is good but once he played against roma & flanagan played..i knew he's a different cup of tea.
My 2cents. X argue. This is what i see coz i'm following youth set-up since my college days until im 32 now. How good ppl o press say..i gotto see how they play. Ppl was giving applause for Flano making debut at RB at the age of 17/18..but it didnt make me notice BUT McLaughlin & Smith is as good as - IBE - Jerome Sinclair - Michael Ngoo - Suso - Sterling - Joan Teixeira - Jordan Rossiter - Ryan Kent (Score 2 goals in England U18 vs Hungary)
- Harry Wilson Wales Bale MK2 (England scrambling to make him a England player) and he only 16
[@Duke Red[ Bro. I got what u mean. U ask me Anderson & Partridge? I see Ryan McLaughlin & Brad Smith a well prospect than Flanagan & Wisdom. Just like Kelly..when i first see him play. Dam...can't wait to see him played regularly ..same goes to Robinson. I didn't have faith on Adam Morgan. I know McLaughlin is good but once he played against roma & flanagan played..i knew he's a different cup of tea.
My 2cents. X argue. This is what i see coz i'm following youth set-up since my college days until im 32 now. How good ppl o press say..i gotto see how they play. Ppl was giving applause for Flano making debut at RB at the age of 17/18..but it didnt make me notice BUT McLaughlin & Smith is as good as
Not arguing or disagreeing. Just saying that I take all the hype surrounding youth players with some degree of apprehension based on history. I do hope you're right. I'd like nothing more than to see local lads step up and make the first team. I've always preferred local lads to foreign ones, because heart is something no amount of money can buy you, and local lads will naturally be more willing to put their bodies on the line for the club.
This post has been edited by Duke Red: Oct 18 2013, 05:17 PM
For the record, would prefer not to bring your spouse or gf into discussion. I took serious offence on that subject. Thanks for your understanding dillon.
Okay Bro. I offer my humble apology That was alittle out of line Chill la. Come out and we share drinks.
QUOTE(Rotuham @ Oct 18 2013, 01:55 PM)
As the TS dillon I think you should not add fuel to the fire by making personal attacks on c28.I disagree with him on allen but I respect his opinions.
You should maintain decorum on here.You are like the speaker of parliament;there has to be impartiality from you.Relative if not absolute.
True but without my constant spat with c28, this thread will be boring without football. Dont you agree?
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 18 2013, 02:02 PM)
The TS' job is an effing boring one. Sucks being you dillon.
That's why I try to outdo all other TS. Because we are Liverpool! We are noisiest in stadium and now we should be the liveliest in LowYat. Our thread has to be the busiest. Only way to achieve this, controversy! And more controversial discussions. LOL.
QUOTE(4ddict @ Oct 18 2013, 02:03 PM)
With great power come great responsibility bro Dillon
Power? No. Responsibility in ensuring this thread is the best and most interesting, Yes. . I try to be the Mohd Ali of Lowyat. Love me or hate me. LOL.
Oct 18 2013, 10:43 AM
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You were acting the same when Charlie Adam, Henderson, Downing were brought into the club. Almost all of them are no longer in the club.
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Chill la. Come out and we share drinks.
We are noisiest in stadium and now we should be the liveliest in LowYat. Our thread has to be the busiest. Only way to achieve this, controversy! And more controversial discussions. LOL.
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