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pasqualle
post Oct 1 2013, 09:23 AM

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hi all,

looking for a laptop for my dad.

1. Preferred Brand : None
2. Budget : below 2k
3. Usage : office, online, SAP
4. Preferred laptop/screen size : 14-15"

someone recommend me lenovo g400s. is it any good?
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 27 2013, 11:50 AM)
Lenovo
Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3099[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

Acer
V7-582PG-74508G52k, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M + 24GB mSATA + 500GB HDD + (1920x1080 IPS; touch)@RM3399[2.2kg], 8GB, W8

Dell
Inspiron 15R, i7-4500U + AMD HD8850M (GDDR5)@RM2449 [2.32kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), Ubuntu 12.04 , 6 cell; W8SL@RM2649

prices are RSP and negotiable. starting from the top list, is the best.
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Hi, thanks for your previous reply. I read reviews on this laptops but i7 sounds a bit high-end for me. What if I change my requirements as below:
1) within my budget I would like to extend warranty
2) not opting for touchscreen
3) optical drive is necessary as I occasionally will use it. But if can get external dvd burner for a cheaper price then might consider laptop without optical drive.
4) weight of the laptop is also a concern as I will carry it from office to class and vice versa.
5) I'm not sure if I need SSD since there's huge difference in term of capacity. Maybe in future I can upgrade if prices drop. But please enlighten me if mSATA+HDD option will be advantages to me in term of performance or weight and so on.
6) bigger screen is priority.

Thanks in advance again for your time and advice. smile.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 1 2013, 01:12 AM)
dear sir, the only that closest to your requirement is this :

Apple
MacBookAir 11", i5-4250U + Intel HD5000 + 256GB SSD@RM3599[1.08kg], 4GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX
MacBookAir 13", i5-4250U + Intel HD5000 + 256GB SSD + (1440x900)@RM3899[1.35kg], 4GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX

other wise, you can look at these :

Sony
Vaio SVP13213SGS, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080)@RM3799[1.06kg], 4GB, W8SL
XPS12, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080;touch)@RM3999[1.52kg], 4GB, W8SL, backlit, spill resistant keyboard, build-in battery, no ODD
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can consider upcoming , this month , yoga 11s ,Hp spectre 13, Acer S7 icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(pasqualle @ Oct 1 2013, 09:23 AM)
hi all,

looking for a laptop for my dad.

1. Preferred Brand : None
2. Budget : below 2k
3. Usage : office, online, SAP
4. Preferred laptop/screen size : 14-15"

someone recommend me lenovo g400s. is it any good?
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Is your dad using it for "business"? If yes, with the budget, probably should consider Dell, and opt for 3 years NBD on site warranty (~ RM300) (this mean if the laptop has any hardware problem, your dad give Dell a call, a technician will go to his place to fix it within couple of days).

For your dad usage, he don't need very powerful CPU nor GPU. i3 and Intel HD is good enough. Get more RAM (4G stick ~ RM100, 8G stick ~ RM200), and get SSD (128G ~ RM300) to replace the HDD (keep as external storage).

Inspiron 14-3437, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400@RM1399[1.99kg], Ubuntu, 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), 4-cell; W8SL@RM1649
Inspiron 15, i3-3217UU + Intel HD4000@RM1299 [2.32kg], Ubuntu, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), 4 cell; W8SL @ RM1499

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
If you buy from Dell Online, use the chat button to negotiate deal.

This post has been edited by nexus2238: Oct 1 2013, 10:37 AM
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 1 2013, 10:29 AM)
Is your dad using it for "business"? If yes, with the budget, probably should consider Dell, and opt for 3 years NBD on site warranty (~ RM300) (this mean if the laptop has any hardware problem, your dad give Dell a call, a technician will go to his place to fix it within couple of days).

For your dad usage, he don't need very powerful CPU nor GPU. i3 and Intel HD is good enough. Get more RAM (4G stick ~ RM100, 8G stick ~ RM200), and get SSD (128G ~ RM300) to replace the HDD (keep as external storage).

Inspiron 14-3437, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400@RM1399[1.99kg], Ubuntu, 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), 4-cell; W8SL@RM1649

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
If you buy from Dell Online, use the chat button to negotiate deal.
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since he is tight budget, if he takes dell vostro commericial series, upgrade warranty option will as below

1YR NBD to 1YR Pro Support

rm 60
1YR NBD to 3YRS NBD Onsite

rm 232

1YR NBD to 3YRS Pro Support

rm 319 wink.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(devour @ Oct 1 2013, 10:36 AM)
since he is tight budget, if he takes dell vostro commericial series, upgrade warranty option will as below

1YR NBD to 1YR Pro Support

rm 60
1YR NBD to 3YRS NBD Onsite

rm 232

1YR NBD to 3YRS Pro Support

rm 319 wink.gif
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sifu, cheapest Vostro 3460 or 3560 is over budget already tongue.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:57 AM

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1. Preferred Brand: any but not acer
2. Budget : 2.5k to 3.3k
3. Usage: Mainly gaming (smooth in FIFA, MW etc.), online, office and a little bit design if possible.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14'-15'

Are HP ENVY TS 15-j003TX NB PC or Asus ux32vd good options for 3d games? doh.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(gkselvi107 @ Oct 1 2013, 10:14 AM)
Hi, thanks for your previous reply. I read reviews on this laptops but i7 sounds a bit high-end for me. What if I change my requirements as below:
1) within my budget I would like to extend warranty
2) not opting for touchscreen
3) optical drive is necessary as I occasionally will use it. But if can get external dvd burner for a cheaper price then might consider laptop without optical drive.
4) weight of the laptop is also a concern as I will carry it from office to class and vice versa.
5) I'm not sure if I need SSD since there's huge difference in term of capacity. Maybe in future I can upgrade if prices drop. But please enlighten me if mSATA+HDD option will be advantages to me in term of performance or weight and so on.
6) bigger screen is priority.

Thanks in advance again for your time and advice.  smile.gif
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1. Extending the warranty to 3 years cost about RM300 (differs on branding, due to their services). If you are buying a Dell, you will get a promotional offer, 3 years Pro support (best) for RM259.
2. The i7 on the Acer and Dell is not a high-end i7, it is an ultra low voltage i7, which is dual core rather than the quad core on the Lenovo Y510p.
3. The Dell and Lenovo I recommended doesn't have touch screen.
4. 90% of 15" models do come with DVD-RW. For external optical drives, you can get them around RM99 - RM119 (negotiate for cheaper price).
5. mSATA SSD = SATA SSD. The performance differ from branding and technology used. mSATA+HDD is a good option but most Haswell laptops use half-size mSATA than standard size mSATA. Have to remove the bottom cover to identify the size of the mSATA slot and screw area. So basically, if you dont store lots of data, you can get a 256GB SSD for RM6xx. Prices vary from branding, warranty duration and technology.

since you wanted lightweight laptops, perhaps you can consider these :

ASUS
S551LB-CJ120H, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2699[2.4kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8, 3-cell

Dell
Vostro 5560, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT630M@RM2349[2.2kg], 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8, ODD
Vostro 5470, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2249[around 1.6kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8, 3-cell (14" model)

Toshiba
Satelite L50-A107X/XW, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2499[2.4kg], 4GB, 1TB, W8; colors: Silver/white

Lenovo
Z510T, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M + (1366x768, touch)@RM2599[2.2kg], 4GB, 1TB, backlit, W8; 2 yrs
nexus2238
post Oct 1 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(tyroon @ Oct 1 2013, 10:57 AM)
1. Preferred Brand: any but not acer
2. Budget : 2.5k to 3.3k
3. Usage: Mainly gaming (smooth in FIFA, MW etc.), online, office and a little bit design if possible.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14'-15'

Are HP ENVY TS 15-j003TX NB PC or Asus ux32vd good options for 3d games?  doh.gif
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Envy Touchsmart 15-J003TX, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT740M + (1366x768;touch)@RM3399[2.56kg], 4GB, 1TB(5400rpm), W8, ext OD
UX32VD-R3001H, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT620M + 24GB mSATA SSD + 500GB HDD@RM3099[1.45kg], 4GB, W8

For gaming, you should go for as good a GPU as you could afford within budget. In your case, that will be Nvidia GT750M or AMD equivalent.
Even though FIFA and CoD MW is not very GPU demanding, having GT750M means you could run them smooth in high details or high resolution (when you connect to external display for example).

You don't need touch screen, so don't waste money on the touchscreen of the 15-J003TX. The GT620M in the UX32VD is just weak (and it is a 13").

Dell
Inspiron 14R, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M (GDDR5) @RM2499[2.32kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), Ubuntu 12.04 , 6 cell; W8SL@RM2699

Lenovo
Y410p, i7-4700MQ + GT750M(GDDR5)@RM2899, 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, 120w psu, swappable ODD, 2 years warranty
Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3099[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

MSI
GE60-2OC, i5-4200M + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3099,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
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post Oct 1 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(tyroon @ Oct 1 2013, 10:57 AM)
1. Preferred Brand: any but not acer
2. Budget : 2.5k to 3.3k
3. Usage: Mainly gaming (smooth in FIFA, MW etc.), online, office and a little bit design if possible.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14'-15'

Are HP ENVY TS 15-j003TX NB PC or Asus ux32vd good options for 3d games?  doh.gif
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the 2 laptops you listed is not suitable for gaming. however, your choices :

Dell
Inspiron 14R, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M (GDDR5) @RM2499[2.32kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), Ubuntu 12.04 , 6 cell; W8SL@RM2699
Inspiron 15R, i7-4500U + AMD HD8850M (GDDR5)@RM2449 [2.32kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), Ubuntu 12.04 , 6 cell; W8SL@RM2649

Lenovo
Y410p, i7-4700MQ + GT750M(GDDR5)@RM2899, 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, 120w psu, swappable ODD, 2 years warranty
Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3099[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

MSI
GE60-2OC, i5-4200M + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3099,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB
GE60-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3599,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB
GE60-ONC, i5-3230M + Nvidia GTX675M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3299, 4GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8

prices are RRP and negotiable. Use the remaining budget to upgrade and extend warranty to 3 years. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 1 2013, 10:43 AM)
sifu, cheapest Vostro 3460 or 3560 is over budget already  tongue.gif
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Take

ASUSPRO P-Specs PRO45VA-VO056X - 14” Anti-Glare / i3-3120M / 4GB / 500GB / Intel HD4000 / W7 Pro


rm 1999 listed price =)

2 year warranty laugh.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 1 2013, 11:07 AM)
1. Extending the warranty to 3 years cost about RM300 (differs on branding, due to their services). If you are buying a Dell, you will get a promotional offer, 3 years Pro support (best) for RM259.
2. The i7 on the Acer and Dell is not a high-end i7, it is an ultra low voltage i7, which is dual core rather than the quad core on the Lenovo Y510p.
3. The Dell and Lenovo I recommended doesn't have touch screen.
4. 90% of 15" models do come with DVD-RW. For external optical drives, you can get them around RM99 - RM119 (negotiate for cheaper price).
5. mSATA SSD = SATA SSD. The performance differ from branding and technology used. mSATA+HDD is a good option but most Haswell laptops use half-size mSATA than standard size mSATA. Have to remove the bottom cover to identify the size of the mSATA slot and screw area. So basically, if you dont store lots of data, you can get a 256GB SSD for RM6xx. Prices vary from branding, warranty duration and technology.

since you wanted lightweight laptops, perhaps you can consider these :

ASUS
S551LB-CJ120H, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2699[2.4kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8, 3-cell

Dell
Vostro 5560, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT630M@RM2349[2.2kg], 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8, ODD
Vostro 5470, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2249[around 1.6kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8, 3-cell (14" model)

Toshiba
Satelite L50-A107X/XW, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2499[2.4kg], 4GB, 1TB, W8; colors: Silver/white

Lenovo
Z510T, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M + (1366x768, touch)@RM2599[2.2kg], 4GB, 1TB, backlit, W8; 2 yrs
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Thanks for you quick reply. Is the above mentioned laptops comes with freedos? Freedos versions should be cheaper right?
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post Oct 1 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(raysaw @ Sep 30 2013, 07:28 PM)
so i should go for which one?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2656663/+800

newer 7000 series ?
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QUOTE(devour @ Oct 1 2013, 12:20 PM)
hmmmm......one more model can be consider....which one should i choose? cry.gif cry.gif
Inspiron 15 7000, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + (1366x768, Touch) @RM2699 [2.6kg], 6GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8SL, backlit keyboard, 58Whr
the price for this one should be RM2899
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QUOTE(gkselvi107 @ Oct 1 2013, 11:29 AM)
Thanks for you quick reply. Is the above mentioned laptops comes with freedos? Freedos versions should be cheaper right?
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ASUS, Lenovo, Toshiba and some Dell doesn't come with free dos version. for Dell, the Ubuntu OS can be considered as free dos. laugh.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 01:21 PM

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ASUS, Lenovo, Toshiba and some Dell doesn't come with free dos version. for Dell, the Ubuntu OS can be considered as free dos. laugh.gif
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okay thanks yar..
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post Oct 1 2013, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 1 2013, 01:12 AM)
dear sir, the only that closest to your requirement is this :

Apple
MacBookAir 11", i5-4250U + Intel HD5000 + 256GB SSD@RM3599[1.08kg], 4GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX
MacBookAir 13", i5-4250U + Intel HD5000 + 256GB SSD + (1440x900)@RM3899[1.35kg], 4GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX

other wise, you can look at these :

Sony
Vaio SVP13213SGS, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080)@RM3799[1.06kg], 4GB, W8SL
XPS12, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080;touch)@RM3999[1.52kg], 4GB, W8SL, backlit, spill resistant keyboard, build-in battery, no ODD
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i though vaio pro out already?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 1 2013, 01:12 AM)
dear sir, the only that closest to your requirement is this :

Apple
MacBookAir 11", i5-4250U + Intel HD5000 + 256GB SSD@RM3599[1.08kg], 4GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX
MacBookAir 13", i5-4250U + Intel HD5000 + 256GB SSD + (1440x900)@RM3899[1.35kg], 4GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX

other wise, you can look at these :

Sony
Vaio SVP13213SGS, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080)@RM3799[1.06kg], 4GB, W8SL
XPS12, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080;touch)@RM3999[1.52kg], 4GB, W8SL, backlit, spill resistant keyboard, build-in battery, no ODD
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QUOTE(hamjun0225 @ Oct 1 2013, 02:25 AM)
illegear upcoming 14.1" ultrabook, 14.1" ips full hd matte screen, i7-4750hq, intel hd 5200 iris, intel hyperbaric cooling, slim and less than 2kg, windows base, price btw 3.5 to 4k if I am not wrong.

acer v7, i7-4500u dual core, touch + gt750m, win8, rm3399
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Appreciate on the recommendation. Thx notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(xproc @ Oct 1 2013, 02:11 PM)
i though vaio pro out already?
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yes, it is released, already.

Vaio SVD - Vaio Duo (hybrid)
Vaio SVP - Vaio Pro (touch screen laptop)

This post has been edited by raymondtong94: Oct 1 2013, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(tyroon @ Oct 1 2013, 10:57 AM)
1. Preferred Brand: any but not acer
2. Budget : 2.5k to 3.3k
3. Usage: Mainly gaming (smooth in FIFA, MW etc.), online, office and a little bit design if possible.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14'-15'

Are HP ENVY TS 15-j003TX NB PC or Asus ux32vd good options for 3d games?  doh.gif
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HP ENVY Touchsmart 15-j051nr..can get around rm2899 only with 12gb ram, Nvidia geforce gt740m..

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