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post Sep 9 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Sep 9 2013, 10:58 PM)
17k so many to choose.
A simple zenith, dornblueth etc all within reach

Pam does the limited series thing, each 000 P series maybe limited to 500. Get a dornblueth their annual total production maybe 500 new direct from maker still can customize!
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The only Zenith I like is the 1969 El Primero, 18k after discount. But I already have a TH Carrera. I'm not so into dressy watches.
This Dornblueth, give me a bit of A.Lange Sohne feel. Not my type of piece.

The pammy I want is definitely one without an in-house movement, hand wound. so its the 000 or the 112. again.. i got to put it on my wrist..
I loved the Oris TT1 Diver so much until its on my wrist, then i threw up.

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post Sep 9 2013, 11:14 PM

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Well rolex don't really burn a lot of money in R&D. These days they increase case size. Much like iPhone offering smaller screen for emerging market.

Rolex spends over usd$44M in USA on marketing
Tag spends half of that.
Omega ~usd$15M

I wonder how much they spend in Asia
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 9 2013, 11:10 PM)
The pammy I want is definitely one without an in-house movement, hand wound. so its the 000 or the 112. again.. i got to put it on my wrist..
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Then buy a Pam, your $$ u happy. Lol

Unitas non hacking very accurate buy a movement ~usd$300. Complain tag using seiko... Don't get logic here. At least a chrono cost for making that ~usd$600 or more price price of that ~usd$4-5k. Talk about crazy marketing. Preference is a personal thing cannot reason. Just enjoy

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post Sep 9 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(lisahasan @ Sep 9 2013, 09:53 PM)
anyone know best watch shop to get oris aquis date women black color ? RRP 6.5k dunno price after less
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many shops can get good discount..dont worry
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:19 PM

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the only pam i somewhat like is the 512.
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 9 2013, 11:19 PM)
the only pam i somewhat like is the 512.
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Good choice, I like that too.. Price also nice rm$24k
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 9 2013, 11:07 PM)
Omega = legendary moon watch, made a lot of in-house movements up until the 80s. used to be viewed as a competitor to Rolex, the recent James Bond association (but we all know the real Bond watch is a Rolex).

Tag Heuer = the brand can't come close to Rolex, usually sports watch, mainly associated with racing. it was legendary when it was just Heuer, esp. in the 60s. but by the 70s they started using Lemania and Valjoux movements, nothing notable after being acquired by Tag. The latest in-house movement 1887 is a joke IMO, the father is Seiko and mother is Tag Heuer, a ******* child at best - regardless of what anybody says. Yes I know they have belt driven watches like the V4 and what not, but those are not the ones we normal people can buy. As a whole I doubt I've come across a justification that Tag Heuer is above the likes of Omega.

The only reason I like it is
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/why-tag-h...brand-487593292

But really, Heuer was legendary, Tag Heuer is silly - they just spend millions on marketing.
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:46 PM

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will buying an Omega in the US be cheaper than buying in Msia? anyone had experience?
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(ConstantLove @ Sep 9 2013, 11:46 PM)
will buying an Omega in the US be cheaper than buying in Msia? anyone had experience?
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U coming to states? Best check out cost locally when u are there do your math!
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QUOTE(ConstantLove @ Sep 9 2013, 11:46 PM)
will buying an Omega in the US be cheaper than buying in Msia? anyone had experience?
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with the USD at it is now?
if prices on chrono24 are anything to go by, then buying it here is much cheaper.


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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Sep 9 2013, 11:54 PM)
U coming to states? Best check out cost locally when u are there do your math!
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Yup going this year smile.gif do they offer discounts like the shops here? I dont think comparing the Srp is accurate hmm.gif

QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 9 2013, 11:57 PM)
with the USD at it is now?
if prices on chrono24 are anything to go by, then buying it here is much cheaper.
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Hmm some products like lv, burberry etc are still cheaper in US, even after USD went up.. So was wondering bout watches hmm.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 12:15 AM

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smaller shops offer discount dont go big shops. Tourneau many times dont give good discount.
where part of states U going? try posting on WUS they can point u in the right direction
Tourneau outlet U may find better deals - watches on avg has like 25% off, others as high as 40%.

dude here reported he bargained and get over 50% off MB.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/santa-went...-ho-774416.html

this moon watch is at 23% off in states, I thought around asia Omega discount is like 8-12%.
http://www.chrono24.com/en/omega/speedmast...facturerIds=187

Ebel outlet u can find their 1911 BTR chrono at steep discount. UN bought the rights to the movement and ebel is leaving chrono biz. A Ulysse Nardin Caliber 150 will be priced way over usd$12k
http://www.watchtime.com/wristwatch-indust...ph-caliber-137/

Ppl reporting to buy at usd$1.8k when watch Retails at ~usd$5k, hard to find today
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/my-new-ebe...ool-800126.html

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post Sep 10 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Sep 9 2013, 11:16 PM)
Then buy a Pam, your $$ u happy. Lol

Unitas non hacking very accurate buy a movement ~usd$300. Complain tag using seiko... Don't get logic here. At least a chrono cost for making that ~usd$600 or more price price of that ~usd$4-5k. Talk about crazy marketing. Preference is a personal thing cannot reason. Just enjoy
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Logic here is, Pam doesn't pretend to be something its not. All the while they have been using other company's movements in their watches since the dawn of Panerai. Rolex first, then the Unitas etc. Tag's "in house" movement on the hand is a Japanese, with some modifications and they call it "Swiss made", so the Tag Heuer is pretending to be something that is not, like I said, Japanese father with Swiss mother. The Pam with the Unitas is more Swiss than the 1887 will ever be. My opinion only. At least Pam doesn't pretend the Unitas movement is in house.

BOOM!

EDIT: And I'm not a TH basher, I own a TH and I love mine. Just stating facts. Peace thumbup.gif

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post Sep 10 2013, 02:33 AM

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my PAM-ILY!!

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hello,

anyone here have experience bought pre-owned watch from WatchLIM before ? legit ?
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post Sep 10 2013, 03:19 AM

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hello,

anyone here have experience bought pre-owned watch from WatchLIM before ? legit ?
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My own experience, legit.
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post Sep 10 2013, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 10 2013, 01:28 AM)
Logic here is, Pam doesn't pretend to be something its not. All the while they have been using other company's movements in their watches since the dawn of Panerai. Rolex first, then the Unitas etc. Tag's "in house" movement on the hand is a Japanese, with some modifications and they call it "Swiss made", so the Tag Heuer is pretending to be something that is not, like I said, Japanese father with Swiss mother. The Pam with the Unitas is more Swiss than the 1887 will ever be. My opinion only. At least Pam doesn't pretend the Unitas movement is in house.

BOOM!

EDIT: And I'm not a TH basher, I own a TH and I love mine. Just stating facts. PeaceĀ  thumbup.gif
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Facts?? U sure?? Its more bashing.
Tag bought the right to make 6s37 and they build the movement inhouse with modification. The defination of inhouse is making a movement under its roof, not design R&D must be done in house. Your defination seem to be design And all must be inhouse. Jap movement not inferior.
Muhle also does similar under Swatch group today they build their clone ETA in glashutte, Germany glashutte no issue with them today.

A newer example ulysse nardin buying ebel 137.
http://www.watchtime.com/wristwatch-indust...ph-caliber-137/

Pam Italian brand today Swiss, if get this heart not pain?
No need to pretend just those willing carrot. Again not my $ no decision here. Lol
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/mess...sterious+PAM318

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QUOTE(blissandecstasy @ Sep 10 2013, 03:11 AM)
hello,

anyone here have experience bought pre-owned watch from WatchLIM before ? legit ?
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No experience but I have feeling its legit
http://watchlim.blogspot.com/?m=1

No complains from local customers
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?topic=5572.0

Seiko forum complain about franken
http://forums.seikoclubsg.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3919

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post Sep 10 2013, 10:22 AM

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guys,

anyone has good trick how to build natural patina faster on bronze?

my bronzo still looks so virgin/fresh....

Example to look below.....

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post Sep 10 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(JPSB @ Sep 10 2013, 10:22 AM)
guys,

anyone has good trick how to build natural patina faster on bronze?

my bronzo still looks so virgin/fresh....

Example to look below.....
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wooo nice watch u have there smile.gif

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