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ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Sep 20 2013, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 06:28 PM) Why nobody talk about ASG Pendidikan? Today I just opened ASG Pendidikan and spent one whole morning. asg kesihatan here.. Lol. Really u lost alot la open today. Last 2 week the pricing drop a lot.
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wil-i-am
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Sep 20 2013, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 08:33 PM) You mean that Chinese is excluded for topping up online? Top up via online is for fixed pricing only Every1 can top up Just that non Bumi portion have been fully sold
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MGM
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Sep 20 2013, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 08:49 PM) I hope the government will include the personal loan like ASB loan for non bumi! wait long long (tankuku).
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wil-i-am
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Sep 20 2013, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 08:44 PM) OIC. I am not very familiar in ASNB. Every1 went through d learning curve U will b familiar soon
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wil-i-am
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Sep 20 2013, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 08:49 PM) I hope the government will include the personal loan like ASB loan for non bumi! D market sizing is not attractive to entice Banks to offer loan financing
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kongming
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Sep 21 2013, 05:36 AM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 20 2013, 09:09 PM) asg kesihatan here.. Lol. Really u lost alot la open today. Last 2 week the pricing drop a lot. You mean asg kesihatan is better than asg pendidikan?
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Sep 21 2013, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 05:36 AM) You mean asg kesihatan is better than asg pendidikan? oh gosh. Look like you don't understand this fund at all. Try look the post I post before.... 3 funds have diff asset allocation. Meaning, affecting its dividend. Put it apart. You know rite when u buying an amount, but the units I, hand isn't that amount you paid. That's is sale charge and NAV combined. And what I want to pint out is, you buy at the wrong time, that is you missed a good chance to buy as the NAV of the three drop A LOT last few weeks, meaning, the unit in hand will be more compared to now. But, since u bought, its ok. Welcome to the club.
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kongming
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Sep 21 2013, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 21 2013, 01:13 PM) oh gosh. Look like you don't understand this fund at all. Try look the post I post before.... 3 funds have diff asset allocation. Meaning, affecting its dividend. Put it apart. You know rite when u buying an amount, but the units I, hand isn't that amount you paid. That's is sale charge and NAV combined. And what I want to pint out is, you buy at the wrong time, that is you missed a good chance to buy as the NAV of the three drop A LOT last few weeks, meaning, the unit in hand will be more compared to now. But, since u bought, its ok. Welcome to the club. Better late than never!
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gark
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Sep 21 2013, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 07:44 PM) Just a few ringgit, satu teh Tarik sudah pergi. Comparing to other trust fund. You are very naive when it comes to investing isn't it? Do more research next time rather than wasting all your hard earned money... ASG-Pendidikan charges 5% sales charge, compared to most funds you can buy online with less hassle at 2% or less. Also ASG-Pendidikan track performance is not that good compared to other UTs...if fact downright terrible...compared to funds like Kenanga Growth Fund. Or if you desire the 60:40 mix like in ASS, you can mix Kenanga Growth fund (2% sales charge) and Amdynamic bond (0% sales charge) whihc will result in higher earnings and less cost. Why else do you think ASG is not popular (total ~100 million units sold from approved 1 bil units)? This post has been edited by gark: Sep 21 2013, 02:05 PM
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wil-i-am
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Sep 21 2013, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 21 2013, 01:46 PM) You are very naive when it comes to investing isn't it? Do more research next time rather than wasting all your hard earned money... ASG-Pendidikan charges 5% sales charge, compared to most funds you can buy online with less hassle at 2% or less. Also ASG-Pendidikan track performance is not that good compared to other UTs...if fact downright terrible...compared to funds like Kenanga Growth Fund. Why else do you think it is not popular?  It's 2% sales charge now
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gark
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Sep 21 2013, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 21 2013, 02:04 PM) Even with 2% sales charge other UT still give you more bang for the buck isn't it?  And you can do everything online...
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wil-i-am
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Sep 21 2013, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 21 2013, 02:06 PM) Even with 2% sales charge other UT still give you more bang for the buck isn't it?  And you can do everything online... Agreed Can even get better than 2% (during promotion) if invest via fundsupermart Anyway, v respect each individual decision on the choice of Funds n Fund Mgt Co
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davinz18
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Sep 21 2013, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 21 2013, 02:13 PM) Anyway, v respect each individual decision on the choice of Funds n Fund Mgt Co I agree with this, Different people different thinking & investment priority
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davinz18
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Sep 21 2013, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 01:23 PM) Agree
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Sep 21 2013, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 01:23 PM) may I know how much u put? if 5 figures, you lose will around 4 figures. (during the lowest NAV last week)
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kongming
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Sep 21 2013, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 21 2013, 04:00 PM) may I know how much u put? if 5 figures, you lose will around 4 figures. (during the lowest NAV last week) Next week, Monday will be buying 5 figures. Yesterday only bought one hundred unit. The transaction was done after 4pm, so I was unable to buy it at MayBank.
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kongming
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Sep 21 2013, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 21 2013, 01:46 PM) You are very naive when it comes to investing isn't it? Do more research next time rather than wasting all your hard earned money... ASG-Pendidikan charges 5% sales charge, compared to most funds you can buy online with less hassle at 2% or less. Also ASG-Pendidikan track performance is not that good compared to other UTs...if fact downright terrible...compared to funds like Kenanga Growth Fund. Or if you desire the 60:40 mix like in ASS, you can mix Kenanga Growth fund (2% sales charge) and Amdynamic bond (0% sales charge) whihc will result in higher earnings and less cost. Why else do you think ASG is not popular (total ~100 million units sold from approved 1 bil units)?  So, what will you recommend me to buy? From the numbers it was given, it has more than 7% dividend every year. ASG PENDIDIKAN, KESIHATAN AND PERSARAAN. This post has been edited by kongming: Sep 21 2013, 07:05 PM
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gark
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Sep 21 2013, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 06:59 PM) So, what will you recommend me to buy? ASG PENDIDIKAN, KESIHATAN AND PERSARAAN. If you ask me? None.. all underperforming....
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kongming
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Sep 21 2013, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 21 2013, 07:04 PM) If you ask me? None.. all underperforming....  Every year has more than 7% dividends.
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gark
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Sep 21 2013, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 07:07 PM) Every year has more than 7% dividends. The dividend does not represent returns, when buying non fixed priced fund, looking at dividend is useless. The dividend is paid out of your left pocket to your right pocket. For these funds you need to calculate total return. For non fixed priced funds, it is possible to have LOSSES in a year it is not guaranteed you must earn every year. Looking at dividend return only works for fixed priced funds like ASB and AS1M. Now these fund are 100% guaranteed you will not lose money, that is why they are so very popular. You need to consider the change in NAV as well when buying ASG, buying at the wrong time will kill your returns.. overall ASG funds has been largely under performing other non-fixed price UT. Anyway it's your money and so it's your choice... This post has been edited by gark: Sep 21 2013, 07:16 PM
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