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 MSI Gaming Notebook V.II, The Refreshed model yet more powerful!

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post Sep 12 2013, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(xFreedomBoix @ Sep 12 2013, 07:31 PM)
I thought there's i7 version of GE60 20c lol.

And omg i jus know that the IC diamond is corrosive sweat.gif will cause big issue to laptop like void warranty , etc?
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As long as it doesn't spill down to the green IC board below, you'll be fine. If it does...

But really, even if IC Diamond is DA BEST paste, the heating performance difference between the top brands is like 1-2c only. If you don't want to live with the risk of holes in your motherboard, just get another top end brand paste that's not corrosive.

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hmm... should keep quiet... about it... sorry is not Corrosive"(wrong word ) it happen only when you in proper remove of thermal... then it become... let say IC Diamond have marco diamond dust even so in that form diamond is Sharp... so when you rub the IC Diamond the sharp edge of it scratch the surface of the chip but NO worried it wont damage it smile.gif unless you apply wait a day and rub it off then repeat it 1,000 time then you may damage the chip smile.gif so Chance of the ic diamond damage chip is 3 of 100 smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2013, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 04:31 PM)
here my temp light program/ video/internet so on
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here bench 3Dmark(2013)
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Very nice temperature there even while watching video.

But the one on 3DMark13, that is not the max temperature while running 3DMark13 right?
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post Sep 12 2013, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 07:48 PM)
hmm... should keep quiet... about it... sorry is not Corrosive"(wrong word )  it happen only when you in proper remove of thermal... then it become... let say IC Diamond have marco diamond dust even so in that form diamond is Sharp... so when you rub the IC Diamond  the sharp edge of it scratch the surface of the chip but NO worried it wont damage it smile.gif unless you apply wait a day and rub it off  then repeat it  1,000 time then  you may damage the chip smile.gif  so Chance of the ic diamond damage chip is 3 of 100 smile.gif
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Yeah I actually googled. Not "corrosive" like the other "corrosive" paste, it's actually "abrasive".

And I'd say the chances of scratching something is definitely higher than 3/100 with IC Diamond. Doesn't make it a bad paste, but definitely not newbie friendly when removing it.

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post Sep 12 2013, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 06:48 PM)
Yep. I'd readily recommend the GS70 to anyone who can live with 17 inches (it's freaking thin though) and "just" a 765. It's slightly over his budget but I say get it (even the lower end model) if he could stretch a liiiiiiitle bit more.

IMHO it's the BEST all rounder solution from MSI so far, until they come up with an equally good 14inch version (GS40? Please?).
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I thought that would make you Hulk-smash jelly? tongue.gif

And ya, of course I'm recommending the lower end GS70, and upgrading SSD in the faaaaaaaarrrrr future. Also you'd get the disco SS keyboard, and the first of its kind:, dual fan.


Just showing some prototype of the GS70

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Is it me or does it look like what Razer has been doing?

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QUOTE(Amal @ Sep 12 2013, 08:03 PM)
Very nice temperature there even while watching video.

But the one on 3DMark13, that is not the max temperature while running 3DMark13 right?
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thx

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yes i think it's the max... i got same temp for Tomb raider(2013) /Crysis3 i think is good temperature
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 08:18 PM)
Yeah I actually googled. Not "corrosive" like the other "corrosive" paste, it's actually "abrasive".

And I'd say the chances of scratching something is definitely higher than 3/100 with IC Diamond. Doesn't make it a bad paste, but definitely not newbie friendly when removing it.
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smile.gif yes "Abrasive"
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post Sep 12 2013, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 07:37 PM)
As long as it doesn't spill down to the green IC board below, you'll be fine. If it does...

But really, even if IC Diamond is DA BEST paste, the heating performance difference between the top brands is like 1-2c only. If you don't want to live with the risk of holes in your motherboard, just get another top end brand paste that's not corrosive.
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this is so true smile.gif it's really fine to use the common ones found in the market.

QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 08:18 PM)
Yeah I actually googled. Not "corrosive" like the other "corrosive" paste, it's actually "abrasive".

And I'd say the chances of scratching something is definitely higher than 3/100 with IC Diamond. Doesn't make it a bad paste, but definitely not newbie friendly when removing it.
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my heatsink is showing a clear 'corrosive mark' on it (the area that was covered by ic diamond). there was no such 'mark' when i used other pastes, like tuniq tx4, mx4, as5, or prolimatech pk-2/3 (it looks very much like corrosion :/)
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post Sep 12 2013, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 6 2013, 05:04 PM)
Oh by the way, I decided to use the standard DDR3 1600MHz 1.5V modules and it worked without any issues. Wonder why some retailers are so stubborn to insist only DDR3L 1.35V. Funny thing is, they don't have any DDR3L stock when requested to upgrade. Just silly...
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Hi all, do note that for Intel Haswell model please insists on 1.35V NOT 1.5V as the reason why we do not recommend 1.5V is 1.5V will cause damage to machine. notworthy.gif

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post Sep 12 2013, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 08:44 PM)
thx

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yes i think it's the max... i got same temp for Tomb raider(2013) /Crysis3 i think is good temperature
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Hmmm.. Probably the counter got reset by itself.
Or you might have open the Hardware Monitor after you ran 3DMark13.
It needs to be run before you run 3DMark13.
Coz I'm seeing the Powers Package max is only 6.01W, which means it isn't running at full load.

Still, even if those are idle temp, it is still a very good temperature compared to my W230ST. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Amal @ Sep 12 2013, 09:33 PM)
Hmmm.. Probably the counter got reset by itself.
Or you might have open the Hardware Monitor after you ran 3DMark13.
It needs to be run before you run 3DMark13.
Coz I'm seeing the Powers Package max is only 6.01W, which means it isn't running at full load.

Still, even if those are idle temp, it is still a very good temperature compared to my W230ST.  thumbup.gif
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haha mucho Gracia's ! yes it running while 3D mark is benching 3Dmark don't seem to stress my GT70... only get stress playing crysis3 6hour while surfing internet/ watching HD movie (setting is on 3 LCD include notebook)
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 04:31 PM)
here my temp light program/ video/internet so on
[attachmentid=3626535]

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here bench 3Dmark(2013)
[attachmentid=3626541]
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Wait, your max temperature for CPU is only 49C while running that benchmark? Isn't it a little low? LOL! I've never seen such amazing performance. Don't get me wrong, but I'd like to have what you put into that laptop. tongue.gif

QUOTE(zaicon @ Sep 12 2013, 06:23 PM)
Perhaps, an older alternative? GE60-ONC, i5-3230M + Nvidia GTX675M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3299, 4GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8

In terms of gaming performance, GTX 675M is a great card. Significantly more than the GT 750M.

If you are pushing on the your max budget, I reckon you add slightly more? The GS70 is truly a great laptop.
As for heat, we have a couple of GS70 users, and IINM none seem to complain about overheating issues  laugh.gif
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Actually the GTX 675MX is the better alternative. It's the Kepler version of the original 675M (Fermi). The MX is probably equivalent in performance to the 770m (with no boost). I think there's a version of the GT70 with i7-3630QM, 16GB DDR3, 750GB 7200RPM and GTX 675MX. Last generation, but hey... its cheaper.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 09:46 PM)
haha mucho Gracia's ! yes it running while 3D mark is benching 3Dmark don't seem to stress my GT70... only get stress playing crysis3 6hour while surfing internet/ watching HD movie (setting is on 3 LCD include notebook)
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Any idea what was your maximum CPU temperature then?
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 12 2013, 10:03 PM)
Any idea what was your maximum CPU temperature then?
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post Sep 12 2013, 10:34 PM

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Wanna ask..
both the GE40 don't have backlit keyboard right?
The GE60 20C 3699 one also don't have?
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QUOTE(xFreedomBoix @ Sep 12 2013, 10:34 PM)
Wanna ask..
both the GE40 don't have backlit keyboard right?
The GE60 20C 3699 one also don't have?
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it come with SteelSeries but only BLue backlit smile.gif

Edit: you can purchase SteelSeries backlit with full led light show smile.gif cost you RM 450-600

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post Sep 12 2013, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 12 2013, 10:02 PM)
Actually the GTX 675MX is the better alternative. It's the Kepler version of the original 675M (Fermi). The MX is probably equivalent in performance to the 770m (with no boost). I think there's a version of the GT70 with i7-3630QM, 16GB DDR3, 750GB 7200RPM and GTX 675MX. Last generation, but hey... its cheaper.
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Agreed. But regarding to xfreedomboix's max budget of rm4k, he is looking into the GX/GE series, maybe you can give a few pointers?
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i say get MSI GX60/70 ADD 16GB 1866Mhz RAM+ SSD:) if compare to GE60/70 price and performance...
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post Sep 13 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 10:40 PM)
it come with SteelSeries  but only BLue backlit smile.gif

Edit: you can purchase SteelSeries backlit with full led light show smile.gif cost you RM 450-600
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This mean all GE40 and GE60 20C series have blue backlit?
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QUOTE(xFreedomBoix @ Sep 13 2013, 12:32 AM)
This mean all GE40 and GE60 20C series have blue backlit?
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only GE60/70 not ge40.. well check with erkaru

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