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 MSI Gaming Notebook V.II, The Refreshed model yet more powerful!

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post Sep 12 2013, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 01:09 PM)
yes... need positive energy surround NB..lol this GT70 suppose be my temporary kinda waiting Asus G750JH smile.gif

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yes.. hmm i need to recheck it... just sound really loud/clear during Gaming/music so don't really bother with it..  blush.gif

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think go just average 66C cpu.. no turbo boost hate noise but i am in Air-cond ROOM temp 21-23C  and Thermal paste IC diamond... 10 days ago... driver i use nvidia 311.84 from MSI download.. smile.gif
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Ah you repaste the CPU already. I haven't done this yet. How did you remove the heatsinks considering they are not bridged together? My guess is to take both GPU+CPU heatsinks as a single big piece? I have some nice paste that I bought a year ago.

Here no aircond but natural one tongue.gif. Around 20C day time. But summer is going to be hot.
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post Sep 12 2013, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 12 2013, 01:13 PM)
Ah you repaste the CPU already. I haven't done this yet. How did you remove the heatsinks considering they are not bridged together? My guess is to take both GPU+CPU heatsinks as a single big piece? I have some nice paste that I bought a year ago.

Here no aircond but natural one tongue.gif. Around 20C day time. But summer is going to be hot.
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no i did not unauthorized repaste cpu/gpu... i watch it on **youtube is a suggestion smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2013, 01:32 PM

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Hi all, am thinking of getting MSI GE60 2OE Gaming Series 15.6" Laptop/ Notebook for music production purposes. I'm sure the specs are more than enough but how about the heat?
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post Sep 12 2013, 01:55 PM

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Is this considered normal? I'm using my GX60 in a normal room temperature, no heavy usage for cpu just normal browsing + HD videos and music sweat.gif
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post Sep 12 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(fox_shinoda @ Sep 12 2013, 01:55 PM)
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Is this considered normal? I'm using my GX60 in a normal room temperature, no heavy usage for cpu just normal browsing + HD videos and music  sweat.gif
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Try again with games on. wink.gif
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post Sep 12 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(fox_shinoda @ Sep 12 2013, 01:55 PM)
Is this considered normal? I'm using my GX60 in a normal room temperature, no heavy usage for cpu just normal browsing + HD videos and music  sweat.gif
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Mine normal 40-45. 50 should be okay IMHO, but supposedly the larger case of the GX60 has better ventilation?

@davidmak: UNLESS you choose the "custom" preset, SB Cinema defaults to the defaults of every preset (game, cinema etc.) after every reboot. Under "custom" the changes should hold.

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post Sep 12 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 11 2013, 05:22 PM)
Acer actually has the stickers too. Dell/Lenovo has some void stickers INSIDE (last I checked anyway).

The WORD from the MSI representative on this thread (MSI-NB) is that "it's not recommended to do your own upgrades". He DID NOT say "prohibited". Also, he (she?) says that if the seal is "broken" by an authorised MSI dealer to add RAM, it's fine.

So take it as you will.

What I DO understand is ONLY the RAM and the Storage Device can be touched at all. Touch anything else and RISK voiding your warranty.

@MSI-NB (if he stops by): Regarding MSI Gamer activities, any word on a BF3/Hawken whatever FPS gathering? I'm not really a DOTA guy.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 11 2013, 06:03 PM)
SSD OR RAM no problem buddy smile.gif  but MSI recommend" you to upgrade MSI authorize center... but be careful some MSI authorized service center trying to act UN-ethical like saying there  extra service charge.. just call MSI care center to confirm any charge if still under warranty period... smile.gif

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if you worried about sticker so much i know on second floor low yat sell small warranty sticker is identical sticker.. interested? lol so you break it u just replace with this one look same smile.gif lolz

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Thanks for the replies. So I guess when you send to them they will also end up breaking the sticker?

..Why not sendiri take off la then as if got no sticker cool2.gif

(Anyway my dell studio doesn't have any stickers, for the ram or hdd at least from what I can see)

About the RAM: Let me wait until after buying the laptop then I see if I need to RAM or not la


EDIT: found this

MSI Malaysia NB We do not recommend users to upgrade by themselves as they will not get to enjoy warranty.
Like · August 22 at 5:08pm

This post has been edited by JieXian: Sep 12 2013, 03:14 PM
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post Sep 12 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(JieXian @ Sep 12 2013, 03:09 PM)
Thanks for the replies. So I guess when you send to them they will also end up breaking the sticker?

..Why not sendiri take off la then as if got no sticker    cool2.gif

(Anyway my dell studio doesn't have any stickers, for the ram or hdd at least from what I can see)

About the RAM: Let me wait until after buying the laptop then I see if I need to RAM or not la
EDIT: found this

MSI Malaysia NB We do not recommend users to upgrade by themselves as they will not get to enjoy warranty.
Like · August 22 at 5:08pm
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Then go upgrade with Storm88. He's an "authorized dealer" so it's fine that he upgrades your stuff, at least according to MSI-NB here on Lowyat.NET.

QUOTE(MSI-NB @ Sep 5 2013, 04:38 PM)
MSI officially do not recommend users to upgrade RAM/HDD/SSD by themselves

We recommend users:

-Upgrade RAM with our Authorized Dealers or Service Centre
-Upgrade HDD/SSD at Service Centre

FYI, Service Centre will diagnosis case by case whether users void the warranty or not.

As for Warranty for MSI MY notebooks, MSI offers 2 years warranty:

-First year Global Warranty
-Second year Local Warranty.
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Note "diagnosis case by case". So it's not a simple matter of "tear sticker = automatically void".

Why is the sticker there then? To protect MSI in terms of liability... and to help scare off the less technically inclined amongst us from blowing up their laptops.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 03:30 PM)
Then go upgrade with Storm88. He's an "authorized dealer" so it's fine that he upgrades your stuff, at least according to MSI-NB here on Lowyat.NET.
Note "diagnosis case by case". So it's not a simple matter of "tear sticker = automatically void".

Why is the sticker there then? To protect MSI in terms of liability... and to help scare off the less technically inclined amongst us from blowing up their laptops.
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ahh I see... Thanks for the info
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post Sep 12 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 03:30 PM)
Then go upgrade with Storm88. He's an "authorized dealer" so it's fine that he upgrades your stuff, at least according to MSI-NB here on Lowyat.NET.
Note "diagnosis case by case". So it's not a simple matter of "tear sticker = automatically void".

Why is the sticker there then? To protect MSI in terms of liability... and to help scare off the less technically inclined amongst us from blowing up their laptops.
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The warranty sticker is a standard procedure from HQ, so don't worry. blush.gif
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QUOTE(MSI-NB @ Sep 12 2013, 04:19 PM)
The warranty sticker is a standard procedure from HQ, so don't worry.  blush.gif
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should not put there.. its hurting ppl/customer decision making process... on purchase AWESOME MSI G series...
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 12 2013, 01:13 PM)
Ah you repaste the CPU already. I haven't done this yet. How did you remove the heatsinks considering they are not bridged together? My guess is to take both GPU+CPU heatsinks as a single big piece? I have some nice paste that I bought a year ago.

Here no aircond but natural one tongue.gif. Around 20C day time. But summer is going to be hot.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 01:13 AM)
Remain with Intel if you need speed to compile programs and stuff. Otherwise, yeah, the AMD CPU is a considerable bottleneck to CPU heavy stuff. RAM upgrades can help the GX60 but it'll still slow down when doing REAL CPU taxing stuff.

Gaming + programming below RM4k and remains cool. Acer V7 (3.7k)? Also, the Illegear RE15: Nvidia 765 and 15 inch FHD screen for about the same price. That's prolly about it for "not so hot" laptops suitable for gaming.

Alternatively you can get the RE13/GE40 but both runs HOT, at least at full load.

RE13 runs slightly colder, has the 765 + beautiful FHD IPS screen, slightly thicker body and a 4-hour battery life. GE40 on the other hand, runs hotter, has the 760 + 900p TN (read: considerably less beautiful) screen, thinner body and a 6-7 hour battery life.

As for others, err Lenovo Y510P SLI? 1 hour battery life, FHD screen and TWO 750m GPUs. Of course it runs hot as well unfortunately. Alternatively, the GE60, but it also has bad battery life and runs just as hot with only a single 765.

IINM your best bet is the Illegear RE15 for that budget. Maybe you can also consider the MSI GE60 with the nvidia 750 which is even cheaper than the GE40 (3.4k), but the RE15 has better specs for only an extra 300++.
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yeah dats really sad.. really love the performance of AMD 8970M .. will programming takes alot of processor power? Upgrading ram will sufficient or not? hmm.gif

not really into dual GPU for laptop haha..
The MSI GE60 with GTX 750 should run cooler compared to GE40 right? brows.gif
Replacing the thermal paste with something better like diamond something will improve the thermal performance significantly?
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careful with IC diamond use as thermal paste... i notice it have corrosive effect on chip-set...
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post Sep 12 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 05:10 PM)
careful with IC diamond use as thermal paste... i notice it have corrosive effect on chip-set...
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shocking.gif Really?
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 05:10 PM)
careful with IC diamond use as thermal paste... i notice it have corrosive effect on chip-set...
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Very true for some other pastes as well. Thankfully my Xigmatek Freezing Point isn't corrosive, though it's probably not as effective as IC.

QUOTE(xFreedomBoix @ Sep 12 2013, 04:38 PM)
yeah dats really sad.. really love the performance of AMD 8970M .. will programming takes alot of processor power? Upgrading ram will sufficient or not? hmm.gif

not really into dual GPU for laptop haha..
The MSI GE60 with GTX 750 should run cooler compared to GE40 right? brows.gif
Replacing the thermal paste with something better like diamond something will improve the thermal performance significantly?
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The GE60 with 750 ALSO comes with just an i5, so yeah it'll be LOTS cooler. It's a lot cheaper too at 2.8k now (on offer).

Still holding on the RE15 as my recommendation for now.

@MSI-NB: Thanks for the clarification boss.

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QUOTE(xFreedomBoix @ Sep 12 2013, 04:38 PM)
yeah dats really sad.. really love the performance of AMD 8970M .. will programming takes alot of processor power? Upgrading ram will sufficient or not? hmm.gif

not really into dual GPU for laptop haha..
The MSI GE60 with GTX 750 should run cooler compared to GE40 right? brows.gif
Replacing the thermal paste with something better like diamond something will improve the thermal performance significantly?
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 05:28 PM)
The GE60 with 750 ALSO comes with just an i5, so yeah it'll be LOTS cooler. It's a lot cheaper too at 2.8k now (on offer).

Still holding on the RE15 as my recommendation for now.
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Perhaps, an older alternative? GE60-ONC, i5-3230M + Nvidia GTX675M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3299, 4GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8

In terms of gaming performance, GTX 675M is a great card. Significantly more than the GT 750M.

If you are pushing on the your max budget, I reckon you add slightly more? The GS70 is truly a great laptop.
As for heat, we have a couple of GS70 users, and IINM none seem to complain about overheating issues laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 05:10 PM)
careful with IC diamond use as thermal paste... i notice it have corrosive effect on chip-set...
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right it's corrosive. it's fine as long as it works smile.gif

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QUOTE(zaicon @ Sep 12 2013, 06:23 PM)
Perhaps, an older alternative? GE60-ONC, i5-3230M + Nvidia GTX675M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3299, 4GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8

In terms of gaming performance, GTX 675M is a great card. Significantly more than the GT 750M.

If you are pushing on the your max budget, I reckon you add slightly more? The GS70 is truly a great laptop.
As for heat, we have a couple of GS70 users, and IINM none seem to complain about overheating issues  laugh.gif
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Yep. I'd readily recommend the GS70 to anyone who can live with 17 inches (it's freaking thin though) and "just" a 765. It's slightly over his budget but I say get it (even the lower end model) if he could stretch a liiiiiiitle bit more.

IMHO it's the BEST all rounder solution from MSI so far, until they come up with an equally good 14inch version (GS40? Please?).

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 05:28 PM)
Very true for some other pastes as well. Thankfully my Xigmatek Freezing Point isn't corrosive, though it's probably not as effective as IC.
The GE60 with 750 ALSO comes with just an i5, so yeah it'll be LOTS cooler. It's a lot cheaper too at 2.8k now (on offer).

Still holding on the RE15 as my recommendation for now.

@MSI-NB: Thanks for the clarification boss.
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I thought there's i7 version of GE60 20c lol.

And omg i jus know that the IC diamond is corrosive sweat.gif will cause big issue to laptop like void warranty , etc?

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