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 MSI Gaming Notebook V.II, The Refreshed model yet more powerful!

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post Sep 11 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 11 2013, 08:45 PM)
haha so i drive 3 hour Just to hang out msi gathering.. WOW Epic... yawn.gif
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Well, it would be more meaningful than driving 3 hours for an item and driving 3 hours back. Or , try killing 2 birds with 1 stone, since you did mention in your previous post that you're coming to KL, set up to a meet at the 14th, then come to the gathering(if you are interested). Your call, not forcing though, just a suggestion. nod.gif


Regarding the event, there will be only dota2 dry.gif

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post Sep 11 2013, 09:23 PM

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MSI Gaming Notebook fans and users: MSI Notebook Malaysia and StashDen is hosting a gathering this Saturday with SteelSeries prizes to be given away, and every participant will receive a free copy of Far Cry 3. Anyone interested? The details are in the spoilers below.

MSI Gamer Gathering Facebook event page

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post Sep 11 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(zaicon @ Sep 11 2013, 09:22 PM)
Well, it would be more meaningful than driving 3 hours for an item and driving 3 hours back. Or , try killing 2 birds with 1 stone, since you did mention in your previous post that you're coming to KL, set up to a meet at the 14th, then come to the gathering(if you are interested). Your call, not forcing though, just a suggestion.  nod.gif
Regarding the event, there will be only dota2  dry.gif
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dota2... my beast for playing dota2... ? dota2... shakehead.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 11 2013, 09:34 PM)
dota2... my beast for playing dota2... ? dota2...  shakehead.gif
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We must wait for BF3 meeting. Though I n00b lol.
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:03 PM

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ooh never play BF3 before... doh.gif but gathering chance to win FC3 nd alot few goodies.. wow MSI is really showing their luvv.. lols
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post Sep 12 2013, 12:34 AM

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asus fan join got free gift ka? XDD
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post Sep 12 2013, 12:36 AM

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Hi guys.. wanna ask
For budget of Max 4k..
Which version should best benefits me?
For gaming and programming in future.
Read review on GX60 for the underperformance APU bottleneck the GPU, any ways to improve the processor performance?

Prefer a gaming laptop that runs cool.
Don't rly emphasis screen size , etc.
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post Sep 12 2013, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(xFreedomBoix @ Sep 12 2013, 12:36 AM)
Hi guys.. wanna ask
For budget of Max 4k..
Which version should best benefits me?
For gaming and programming in future.
Read review on GX60 for the underperformance APU bottleneck the GPU, any ways to improve the processor performance?

Prefer a gaming laptop that runs cool.
Don't rly emphasis screen size , etc.
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Remain with Intel if you need speed to compile programs and stuff. Otherwise, yeah, the AMD CPU is a considerable bottleneck to CPU heavy stuff. RAM upgrades can help the GX60 but it'll still slow down when doing REAL CPU taxing stuff.

Gaming + programming below RM4k and remains cool. Acer V7 (3.7k)? Also, the Illegear RE15: Nvidia 765 and 15 inch FHD screen for about the same price. That's prolly about it for "not so hot" laptops suitable for gaming.

Alternatively you can get the RE13/GE40 but both runs HOT, at least at full load.

RE13 runs slightly colder, has the 765 + beautiful FHD IPS screen, slightly thicker body and a 4-hour battery life. GE40 on the other hand, runs hotter, has the 760 + 900p TN (read: considerably less beautiful) screen, thinner body and a 6-7 hour battery life.

As for others, err Lenovo Y510P SLI? 1 hour battery life, FHD screen and TWO 750m GPUs. Of course it runs hot as well unfortunately. Alternatively, the GE60, but it also has bad battery life and runs just as hot with only a single 765.

IINM your best bet is the Illegear RE15 for that budget. Maybe you can also consider the MSI GE60 with the nvidia 750 which is even cheaper than the GE40 (3.4k), but the RE15 has better specs for only an extra 300++.

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post Sep 12 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(xFreedomBoix @ Sep 12 2013, 12:36 AM)
Hi guys.. wanna ask
For budget of Max 4k..
Which version should best benefits me?
For gaming and programming in future.
Read review on GX60 for the underperformance APU bottleneck the GPU, any ways to improve the processor performance?

Prefer a gaming laptop that runs cool.
Don't rly emphasis screen size , etc.
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buy MSI GX60 then upgrade 16GB 1866Mhz Performance RAM! overall performance/gaming improve 15-20% but total spending ccost you RM4,400.00 blush.gif
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post Sep 12 2013, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Sep 12 2013, 12:34 AM)
asus fan join got free gift ka? XDD
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no your not allow... lol i think everyone is welcome smile.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 12 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 11 2013, 06:02 PM)
Because more printed words = more cost amirite? Simple is cheap.
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I believe they just want to use 'general/generic' terms. Just to comply with basic legal requirements.

QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 11 2013, 06:03 PM)
SSD OR RAM no problem buddy smile.gif  but MSI recommend" you to upgrade MSI authorize center... but be careful some MSI authorized service center trying to act UN-ethical like saying there  extra service charge.. just call MSI care center to confirm any charge if still under warranty period... smile.gif

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if you worried about sticker so much i know on second floor low yat sell small warranty sticker is identical sticker.. interested? lol so you break it u just replace with this one look same smile.gif lolz

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RM60 okay? 4GB Sodim 1600Mhz
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I wonder if MSI Malaysia will do it for free. Cause in OZland, MSI quoted me AUD60 bucks just to install that in, plus clean install and the F3 recovery function will remain. The default HDD will move to the secondary bay and still hold all the recovery partitions.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 12 2013, 10:00 AM)
I believe they just want to use 'general/generic' terms. Just to comply with basic legal requirements.
I wonder if MSI Malaysia will do it for free. Cause in OZland, MSI quoted me AUD60 bucks just to install that in, plus clean install and the F3 recovery function will remain. The default HDD will move to the secondary bay and still hold all the recovery partitions.
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Actually, how DO you transfer the F3 hidden partition to an SSD? Full disk cloning with Acronis or something?

I thought a full HDD clone from a normal HDD to an SSD is not recommended as the fragmented sectors on the HDD image might not transfer well to the SSD?

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 10:21 AM)
Actually, how DO you transfer the F3 hidden partition to an SSD? Full disk imaging with Acronis?
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yup i guess so cause when i purchase NB i upgrade to SSD they clone with F3 function to SSD from HDD seem to be working just fine.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 10:21 AM)
Actually, how DO you transfer the F3 hidden partition to an SSD? Full disk cloning with Acronis or something?

I thought a full HDD clone from a normal HDD to an SSD is not recommended as the fragmented sectors on the HDD image might not transfer well to the SSD?
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No, cloning software typically don't clone the recovery partition over. Its just the EFI partition, Windows recovery partition and the boot partition. Assuming this is the GPT drive.

In my experience, cloning from HDD to SSD has been quite successful. With the exception of my first attempt when I got the GT70 2 weeks ago. The Samsung Data Migration some how botched everything lol!

Here's the steps I followed:

1. Disable UEFI secure boot in BIOS.
2. Perform secure erase for SSD in another computer/laptop. So that it has a clean out of box mode.
3. Run burnrecovery and take a snapshot image of the entire HDD using Windows 8.
4. Remove unnecessary software on HDD and apply your own tweaks (e.g. disable hibernation, page file etc).
5. Run registry cleaning (I use TuneUp and jv16 Powertools).
6. Run drive defragmentation (I use PerfectDisk). Then run boot defragmentation. This will defrag the boot and page files.
7. Run cloning process (I use Samsung Data Migration for my 840 Pro).
8. Once complete, I would remove the HDD from laptop to prevent interference.
9. Install SSD in the primary bay.
10. Let it boot. If no issue, boot into recovery mode and run chkdsk /f to clear inconsistencies after clone.
11. Once boot back to Windows, use a partition alignment tool to check for drive alignment.
12. If no more issues, you can safely reformat the whole HDD. If you ever need to go back, just re-image the backup you made.
13. Then install HDD back into secondary drive and format as a data drive or whatever.
14. Go back to BIOS and re-enable secure boot if you wish.
15. Install/customize your new setup to your heart's content.
16. Final step is get a snapshot image, in case you ever want to get back to this state in future.

You would see that I do a snapshot image before a critical step. Its important to maintain a backup. My F3 still works but of course there's no MSI factory image to restore from. This is where I use my backup image. If you need the MSI factory state, then just boot from the recovery DVD you just made.

Of course if you want a completely clean installation, just start from scratch. But I'm lazy tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 12 2013, 10:21 AM)
Actually, how DO you transfer the F3 hidden partition to an SSD? Full disk cloning with Acronis or something?

I thought a full HDD clone from a normal HDD to an SSD is not recommended as the fragmented sectors on the HDD image might not transfer well to the SSD?
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By the way according to the MSI engineer, they can make it in such a way the MSI factory partition will remain in your now secondary HDD. But all the boot partitions will now reside in your new SSD in primary bay.

When you press F3, you can perform recovery as usual. Just that it will recover to your SSD. So it must be some insider tweaks. I decided not to proceed because its worth the money. I prefer to fall back to drive imaging recovery method. Because all my applications and settings are maintained.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 12 2013, 11:18 AM)
By the way according to the MSI engineer, they can make it in such a way the MSI factory partition will remain in your now secondary HDD. But all the boot partitions will now reside in your new SSD in primary bay.

When you press F3, you can perform recovery as usual. Just that it will recover to your SSD. So it must be some insider tweaks. I decided not to proceed because its worth the money. I prefer to fall back to drive imaging recovery method. Because all my applications and settings are maintained.
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oh i ask/requested the technician to put recovery on both my SSD and HDD.. just in case...
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Just took delivery of some nice Samsung DD3L modules. biggrin.gif

No problem so far. Everything rock stable. Guess the machine really needs DDR3L.

Unseen, whats your max CPU temps where you're gaming? Mine went till 87C on gaming mode. Also my Sound Blaster Cinema app doesn't seem to remember the settings I made. After restart it went back to defaults. Strange. Is it same in your setup as well?
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 12 2013, 12:33 PM)
Just took delivery of some nice Samsung DD3L modules. biggrin.gif

No problem so far. Everything rock stable. Guess the machine really needs DDR3L.

Unseen, whats your max CPU temps where you're gaming? Mine went till 87C on gaming mode. Also my Sound Blaster Cinema app doesn't seem to remember the settings I made. After restart it went back to defaults. Strange. Is it same in your setup as well?
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how much samsung L ram? i got my Crucial RM440 for 2x8GB 16GB L RAM
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hmm i think ur notebook got Gremlin... lolz baptizes NB yet? blush.gif my Cinema seem to remember setting i set for it unless you plug external speaker/headphone... smile.gif seem to work like charms smile.gif

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CPU temp i currently at work ... later on i post my CPU temp i capture HWinfo64 and Speccy if not mistake is max 66C-70C during Tomb raider/Crysis3 all MAX... but if you look past posting on this THREADS you see i post few TEMP of my system smile.gif

Edit: got RAM LOW VOLTAGE MR STORM88!

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 12 2013, 12:48 PM)
how much samsung L ram? i got my Crucial RM440 for 2x8GB 16GB L RAM
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hmm i think ur notebook got Gremlin... lolz baptizes NB yet?  blush.gif  my Cinema seem to remember setting i set for it unless you plug external speaker/headphone... smile.gif seem to work like charms smile.gif

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CPU temp i currently at work ... later on i post my CPU temp i capture HWinfo64 and Speccy  if not mistake is max 66C-70C during Tomb raider/Crysis3 all MAX...  but if you look past posting on this THREADS you see i post few TEMP of my system smile.gif
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Yeah, not having a lot of positive energy with the laptop yet. LOL! But we're catching up. It'll be nice tongue.gif

So you're Cinema app remembers? I mean when you move the base slider, it'll remember after restart. Damn this is weird.

Wow... 70C max temps? With cooler boost on? Mine is without. I don't see signs of throttling when gaming. Except some micro stutter once in awhile. Still haven't solve this yet. Some say is the beta driver. GPU temperature hovering in the region of 60-65C which I think is quite good.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 12 2013, 12:54 PM)
Yeah, not having a lot of positive energy with the laptop yet. LOL! But we're catching up. It'll be nice tongue.gif

So you're Cinema app remembers? I mean when you move the base slider, it'll remember after restart. Damn this is weird.

Wow... 70C max temps? With cooler boost on? Mine is without. I don't see signs of throttling when gaming. Except some micro stutter once in awhile. Still haven't solve this yet. Some say is the beta driver. GPU temperature hovering in the region of 60-65C which I think is quite good.
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yes... need positive energy surround NB..lol this GT70 suppose be my temporary kinda waiting Asus G750JH smile.gif

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yes.. hmm i need to recheck it... just sound really loud/clear during Gaming/music so don't really bother with it.. blush.gif

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think go just average 66C cpu.. no turbo boost hate noise but i am in Air-cond ROOM temp 21-23C and Thermal paste IC diamond... 10 days ago... driver i use nvidia 311.84 from MSI download.. smile.gif

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