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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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post Sep 11 2013, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Sep 11 2013, 12:35 AM)
does the Z1 come with stereo speakers? it would be awesome if it sounds like the HTC One boomsound speakers
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im not sure if it's stereo, coz i watched a hands on video from eprice, the people said the speaker is very good, can compare with htc one, just that it is facing the bottom, so you have to use ur hand to redirect the sound
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Sep 11 2013, 12:08 AM)
ZL also perform like that too.. i saw rarely turn white on my ZL screen.. of course, iphone and ipad, and friend's s4 perform better in IPS and SuperAmoled. but ZL and Z1 in video also not so bad.. mostly i also view my phone without on straight but still see it clearly with auto brightness enabled..
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yeah... i think the viewing angle is ok. it's not like tilting the screen abit and the screen goes white and unreadable at all... it is still ok even when u tilt the screen to a certain degree... text is still readable and all... it's only at extreme angle that everything is unwatchable.

of course this is a weakness, and i think eveyone here knows it and some accept it. but this issue is actually not that big deal. some people making a big fuzz of this issue is just nip picking.
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Sep 11 2013, 12:37 AM)
im not sure if it's stereo, coz i watched a hands on video from eprice, the people said the speaker is very good, can compare with htc one, just that it is facing the bottom, so you have to use ur hand to redirect the sound
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fantastic...getting ready to trade in my ZL for the Z1 smile.gif
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Sep 11 2013, 12:37 AM)
im not sure if it's stereo, coz i watched a hands on video from eprice, the people said the speaker is very good, can compare with htc one, just that it is facing the bottom, so you have to use ur hand to redirect the sound
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err... only 1 speaker at the bottom right? how to be stereo leh?
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 12:39 AM)
yeah...  i think the viewing angle is ok. it's not like tilting the screen abit and the screen goes white and unreadable at all... it is still ok even when u tilt the screen to a certain degree... text is still readable and all... it's only at extreme angle that everything is unwatchable.

of course this is a weakness, and i think eveyone here knows it and some accept it. but this issue is actually not that big deal. some people making a big fuzz of this issue is just nip picking.
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I agree I am nip picking. Hehe

Because I need extreme screen. I no longer can accept slightly color shift screen.
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Sep 11 2013, 12:37 AM)
im not sure if it's stereo, coz i watched a hands on video from eprice, the people said the speaker is very good, can compare with htc one, just that it is facing the bottom, so you have to use ur hand to redirect the sound
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It is not stereo.
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 11 2013, 12:44 AM)
I agree I am nip picking. Hehe

Because I need extreme screen. I no longer can accept slightly color shift screen.
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yes, i know u r tongue.gif

so, how's the latest comparison picture? u analyzed them already? there's alot of picture there.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 12:47 AM)
yes, i know u r  tongue.gif

so, how's the latest comparison picture? u analyzed them already? there's alot of picture there.
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Tomorrow just check. I didn't bring back laptop.

Check via phone is not accurate. Hehe.
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post Sep 11 2013, 01:04 AM

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Since we are at it... another video on viewing angle. i think it's good enuf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXuiJi8OLUI


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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 10 2013, 05:51 PM)
codename Amami
docomo model - SO-02F
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eh, not Itsuki kah?
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Apple just released a phone with a f/2.2 aperture. so iphone managed to fit in a bigger lense in a slimmer profile.
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 11 2013, 09:29 AM)
Apple just released a phone with a f/2.2 aperture. so iphone managed to fit in a bigger lense in a slimmer profile.
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Apple always do great in camera, no deny on that.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 11 2013, 09:54 AM)
Apple always do great in camera, no deny on that.
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iPhone camera default can take good picture since iPhone 4. Its a standard comparison for phone camera. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 11 2013, 09:29 AM)
Apple just released a phone with a f/2.2 aperture. so iphone managed to fit in a bigger lense in a slimmer profile.
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but i believe they less a spec compared to android phone thus able to fit bigger/better lens with slimmer profile
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 11 2013, 09:29 AM)
Apple just released a phone with a f/2.2 aperture. so iphone managed to fit in a bigger lense in a slimmer profile.
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I heard the sensor is 15% bigger, so optic/lens is 15% bigger. And now aperture also bigger. That's engineering feat.
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"Sony’s Xperia Z1 features an impressive 5-inch Full HD Super AMOLED display with Triluminos and X-Reality technology. The screen is capable of 1,920 x 1,080 resolution, rated at a whopping 440 ppi. The Xperia Z1 has great viewing angles, and the colors really pop out. The brightness levels is also really impressive in this handset."


http://www.androidauthority.com/xperia-z1-...ck-look-266308/
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 09:57 AM)
I heard the sensor is 15% bigger, so optic/lens is 15% bigger. And now aperture also bigger. That's engineering feat.
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not sure about all these camera spec. but what i found is

aperture size:
IP5s - f2.2
Z1 - f2.0
so f2.2 is bigger right? what does this means actually? what the advantage of having bigger aperture?

sensor size:
Z1 - 1/2.3"
IP5s - increased by15%... so how big is it?
with bigger sensor means capturing more light???

sorry, noob in photography
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 10:32 AM)
not sure about all these camera spec. but what i found is

aperture size:
IP5s - f2.2
Z1 - f2.0
so f2.2 is bigger right? what does this means actually? what the advantage of having bigger aperture?

sensor size:
Z1 - 1/2.3"
IP5s - increased by15%... so how big is it?
with bigger sensor means capturing more light???

sorry, noob in photography
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Z1 aperture bigger

Z1 sensor still bigger
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 10:32 AM)
not sure about all these camera spec. but what i found is

aperture size:
IP5s - f2.2
Z1 - f2.0
so f2.2 is bigger right? what does this means actually? what the advantage of having bigger aperture?

sensor size:
Z1 - 1/2.3"
IP5s - increased by15%... so how big is it?
with bigger sensor means capturing more light???

sorry, noob in photography
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Z1 is bigger
bigger aperture means more light can pass thru the lens

hope this helps:
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 10:32 AM)
not sure about all these camera spec. but what i found is

aperture size:
IP5s - f2.2
Z1 - f2.0
so f2.2 is bigger right? what does this means actually? what the advantage of having bigger aperture?

sensor size:
Z1 - 1/2.3"
IP5s - increased by15%... so how big is it?
with bigger sensor means capturing more light???

sorry, noob in photography
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No, f2.0 is bigger than f2.2.

It means how big is the opening. If aperture big, opening is big, more light come in, brighter picture, better quality because less noise.

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Bigger sensor capture more light if megapixel remain the same. Means if 1" sensor, 10Megapixel capture 2x more light than 20Megapixel.

Increase by 15% means 15% bigger than iPhone 5S.

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