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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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post Sep 11 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 11 2013, 10:35 AM)
Z1 aperture bigger

Z1 sensor still bigger
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:35 AM)
Z1 is bigger
bigger aperture means more light can pass thru the lens

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blush.gif ooh... so i got it the other way round... the smaller the number, means bigger aperture... and more lights can pass thru the lens...

thanks!
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 10:32 AM)
not sure about all these camera spec. but what i found is

aperture size:
IP5s - f2.2
Z1 - f2.0
so f2.2 is bigger right? what does this means actually? what the advantage of having bigger aperture?

sensor size:
Z1 - 1/2.3"
IP5s - increased by15%... so how big is it?
with bigger sensor means capturing more light???

sorry, noob in photography
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for aperture, the smaller the number denotes bigger the aperture size is. so f2.0 is bigger aperture.
the larger the aperture size is, the smaller the focus field is, giving a bokeh effect i.e. capturing portrait photo with blurred background.

if ip5 sensor was 1/3.2" and increased by 15%, a rough calculation will give 1/2.8"

base just on numbers, the z1 still has bigger aperture and sensor size compared to ip5s. lets see how the iphone perform in real applications.
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 11 2013, 10:42 AM)
for aperture, the smaller the number denotes bigger the aperture size is. so f2.0 is bigger aperture.
the larger the aperture size is, the smaller the focus field is, giving a bokeh effect i.e. capturing portrait photo with blurred background.

if ip5 sensor was 1/3.2" and increased by 15%, a rough calculation will give 1/2.8"

base just on numbers, the z1 still has bigger aperture and sensor size compared to ip5s. lets see how the iphone perform in real applications.
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rclxub.gif huh? bigger aperture means smaller focus field... like u said portrait photo will have blurred background... is this a + point or - point?
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 10:46 AM)
rclxub.gif huh? bigger aperture means smaller focus field... like u said portrait photo will have blurred background... is this a + point or - point?
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Its plus point because its the most used feature in Instagram. Blur background rclxm9.gif

But the be frank, our Z1 sensor and lens is too small to be obvious to have blur background.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 10:46 AM)
rclxub.gif huh? bigger aperture means smaller focus field... like u said portrait photo will have blurred background... is this a + point or - point?
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wider range of aperture size of course its a good thing. bokeh effect is beautiful.
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 11 2013, 10:54 AM)
wider range of aperture size of course its a good thing. bokeh effect is beautiful.
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tat's dSLR. Not going to happen with Z1. Stop dreaming.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:49 AM)
Its plus point because its the most used feature in Instagram. Blur background  rclxm9.gif

But the be frank, our Z1 sensor and lens is too small to be obvious to have blur background.
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 11 2013, 10:54 AM)
wider range of aperture size of course its a good thing. bokeh effect is beautiful.
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ooo... thanks for the explanation.
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:56 AM)
tat's dSLR. Not going to happen with Z1. Stop dreaming.
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Well, its just to demonstrate the effect of aperture.
Not even nokia 41mp sensor can achieve good bokeh.
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:00 AM

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Small sensor wun get bokeh unless u use Macro mode.
Sensor need at least 1/1.7 inch for barely looking bokeh
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 11 2013, 09:54 AM)
Apple always do great in camera, no deny on that.
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agreed. picture quality is good, phone price no good. tongue.gif


QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 10:14 AM)
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"Sony’s Xperia Z1 features an impressive 5-inch Full HD Super AMOLED  display with Triluminos and X-Reality technology. The screen is capable of 1,920 x 1,080 resolution, rated at a whopping 440 ppi. The Xperia Z1 has great viewing angles, and the colors really pop out. The brightness levels is also really impressive in this handset."
http://www.androidauthority.com/xperia-z1-...ck-look-266308/
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hmm.gif hmm.gif AA wrote the review while drunk is it?

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:56 AM)
tat's dSLR. Not going to happen with Z1. Stop dreaming.
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i believe i can fly~~
oops overdreamt.
but still, the question can be, z1 vs s4 zoom?
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:01 AM)
agreed. picture quality is good, phone price no good. tongue.gif
hmm.gif  hmm.gif  AA wrote the review while drunk is it?
i believe i can fly~~
oops overdreamt.
but still, the question can be, z1 vs s4 zoom?
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price differ so much leh.

Of course Z1 la.

If u bring out s4 zoom, I think I will laugh at u. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:01 AM)
agreed. picture quality is good, phone price no good. tongue.gif
hmm.gif  hmm.gif  AA wrote the review while drunk is it?
i believe i can fly~~
oops overdreamt.
but still, the question can be, z1 vs s4 zoom?
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Personally tested with S4 zoom and dislike the jpeg quality + colors. And the aperture is slow f3.2
the only advantage over Z1 is the ability for optical zoom whistling.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:01 AM)
agreed. picture quality is good, phone price no good. tongue.gif
hmm.gif  hmm.gif  AA wrote the review while drunk is it?
i believe i can fly~~
oops overdreamt.
but still, the question can be, z1 vs s4 zoom?
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yeah... looks like ip5c gonna replace ip5, but with "cheaper" plastic material. and yet gonna sell it at a price just like ip5 initial launch price...

and the ip5s gonna be the real "premium" model, gonna sell it at even higher price than all other previous ip model...
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 11:06 AM)
yeah... looks like ip5c gonna replace ip5, but with "cheaper" plastic material. and yet gonna sell it at a price just like ip5 initial launch price...

and the ip5s gonna be the real "premium" model, gonna sell it at even higher price than all other previous ip model...
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specwise, better camera dual led, and security.
z1 higher spec, now z1 vs ip5s camera.
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 11 2013, 11:41 AM)
specwise, better camera dual led, and security.
z1 higher spec, now z1 vs ip5s camera.
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and we have yet to see any comparison pic from note3.
btw, any improvement made to the note3 camera compared to S4?
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:48 AM

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more camera sample from Z1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/samjpullen/se...57635465262473/
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:48 AM)
looks good! Dinosaur!
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:48 AM)
Need more night photo sample to really see how really Z1's camera performs...
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:03 AM)
price differ so much leh.

Of course Z1 la.

If u bring out s4 zoom, I think I will laugh at u.  laugh.gif
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hehe.. but i actually also think, who would buy it?
the back is too heavy due to the camera-like design.

QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 11 2013, 11:03 AM)
Personally tested with S4 zoom and dislike the jpeg quality + colors. And the aperture is slow f3.2
the only advantage over Z1 is the ability for optical zoom  whistling.gif
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i see..


QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 11 2013, 11:06 AM)
yeah... looks like ip5c gonna replace ip5, but with "cheaper" plastic material. and yet gonna sell it at a price just like ip5 initial launch price...

and the ip5s gonna be the real "premium" model, gonna sell it at even higher price than all other previous ip model...
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saw the price too, and was quite surprised they dare to put hefty price for a plastic phone(karma is it?)
how can it be said as a "low budget" when it's that high?

5s i can understand with additional features inside but as we know, iphone do have high price tag..
even now i just saw apple malaysia site, they have removed all traces of iphone 5. only left with ip4s with 1499 price tag..

QUOTE(neo0915 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:57 AM)
Need more night photo sample to really see how really Z1's camera performs...
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i do agree to you..
night shots are somehow less in all pictures taken..

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:48 AM)
After so many check on Z1 photos. Z1 photos not bad.

Just some fine tune, will be awesome!



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