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 NETWORK ATTACHED STORAGE (NAS) V2

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post Oct 14 2013, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 14 2013, 02:11 AM)
QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Oct 14 2013, 02:44 AM)
You can also try VLC player. also available in Google Play
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hmmm... weirdly enough, after installing VLC (beta), all players now able to play those AVI files. although some files are time-scroll constrained (meaning i cant scroll forward or backwards), but i guess this might have to do with how those files were encoded. most of my other AVIs dont have this problem.

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hey guys,

Which would be better?
1) Iomega ix2
2) linkstation pro duo



I'm using it for BT, file sharing and streaming music

Is user allow to access the file using web when they are away?
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post Oct 20 2013, 07:15 PM

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I have a WD MyBook Live. I want to access the files in the NAS outside my home network (on my android phone). I tried logging in using the app but it's not working. Is there any solution?
Thanks~

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recommending buffalo linkstation pro duo.
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post Oct 21 2013, 06:05 PM

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Hi all, have anyone ever lost data on your NAS due to harddisk failure or file system corruption? I would like to hear it from you and the setup you have when you experienced the failure.
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post Oct 23 2013, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(mrbob @ Oct 21 2013, 06:05 PM)
Hi all, have anyone ever lost data on your NAS due to harddisk failure or file system corruption? I would like to hear it from you and the setup you have when you experienced the failure.
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For my home, the NAS is in raid 5. So I pull out the problem hdd and replace a new 1. File no corrupt.

For office, probably the NAS will have file corrupt. The symptom is, some file cannot delete. And will hang the NAS. Got to pull the plug to reset it. I m waiting to get a new hdd to replace it. Anyway that hdd already 6yrs old and about time to change.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 23 2013, 12:33 AM)
For my home, the NAS is in raid 5. So I pull out the problem hdd and replace a new 1. File no corrupt.

For office, probably the NAS will have file corrupt. The symptom is, some file cannot delete. And will hang the NAS. Got to pull the plug to reset it. I m waiting to get a new hdd to replace it. Anyway that hdd already 6yrs old and about time to change.
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Your office NAS seems to have an interesting problem. Have you tried renaming or move the problem files to lower folder down the tree before deleting them? Could be due to long filename that OS unable to handle.

Are either of your NAS aftermarket brands such as Synalogy, QNAP etc or own-build NAS? If we can share these info, we may be able to safeguard our data better either by avoiding buying problem NAS models or better data management practices.

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post Oct 23 2013, 02:22 PM

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need advice for home NAS. major for the photo files backup (and photo processing), minimal video and documents backup.

Please advice which brand is good deal to get. just need a 2 drive NAS for RAID 1.

budget as low as possible. extra function like FTP, HTTP is good to have but not a "need"
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post Oct 23 2013, 02:50 PM

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post Oct 23 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Oct 23 2013, 02:50 PM)
i use 2 QNAP NAS. TS-509 Pro and a TS-659 Pro II for home use.

Performance wise they are great (assuming you don't use encryption).

But i'm impressed with ZFS because of it's end-to-end check sum for data integrity.

There are some options out there that has ZFS, like freenas, nexenta etc..... those options can install alot more ram which is required for ZFS especially for advance options like deduplication among other things.

I'm hoping that the mainstream brands will adopt a zfs solution, and offer more ram for a more reasonable price.

But till that happens, people will just resort to a DIY NAS using something like freenas, with their own hand picked hardware for zfs if they have the know how doh.gif
Anyway my home network is like this...
Fiberhome modem > Microtik RB250GS vlan switch > Linksys E4200 V1 router (Victek's RAF Tomato firmware) >

1. QNAP TS-509 Pro - 5 x 1tb storage space
2. QNAP TS-659 Pro II - 6 x 2tb storage space
3. homeplug (used to connect internet to living room if ethernet internet/lan is required)
4. wireless 2.4ghz and 5ghz available throughout the house via the linksys router.
5. android phone, laptops, iphone, etc etc..... any small devices that use internet
Well i'm a media heavy user, so for my own needs, the 6x2tb more or less meets my needs. But as usual storage needs increase, but for now it's still okay.
So depending on your storage requirements and your expected rate of storage required in future, that would be the space you should invest in.

But if you don't need so much, but want network storage to share easily around the home via the lan network, or over the net securely, then yeah a small nas may be okay as well.

Good brands are like QNAP or Synology. But as i mentioned they don't have ZFS. The only option for that is a specific netgear model, or freenas, or Nexenta .....
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thanks for information, currently my priority was backing up the photos and RAW files. 2TB on RAID 1 should be sufficient for me at least for few years.

but the question is, synology, QNAP is pretty above the range compare with Buffalo, wester digital etc. just need advice is worth to paid extra 200-300 for the QNAP and Synology features.



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QUOTE(mrbob @ Oct 23 2013, 07:37 AM)
Your office NAS seems to have an interesting problem. Have you tried renaming or move the problem files to lower folder down the tree before deleting them? Could be due to long filename that OS unable to handle.

Are either of your NAS aftermarket brands such as Synalogy, QNAP etc or own-build NAS? If we can share these info, we may be able to safeguard our data better either by avoiding buying problem NAS models or better data management practices.
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It's interesting that Synology has SHR (Synology Hybrid Raid) unlike QNAP which is planning to implement this feature from my understanding. The cool part about SHR is you can use what ever size HDD you have and create a RAID 5 or RAID 6 with the largest disk size being the parity. See http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/W..._Hybrid_RAID%3F to have a better understanding.

You can upgrade your disk when needed although it might be a long process but is possible.


QUOTE(kinx @ Oct 23 2013, 04:54 PM)
thanks for information, currently my priority was backing up the photos and RAW files.  2TB  on RAID 1 should be sufficient for me at least for few years.

but the question is, synology, QNAP is pretty above the range compare with Buffalo, wester digital etc.  just need advice is worth to paid extra 200-300 for the QNAP and Synology features.
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Not sure about QNAP's photo management but on Synology it has instant upload which means is somewhat similar to iCloud photo backup. Once you snapshot something on your phone it will auto upload to the NAS. For DSLR, look into using Eye-Fi card and running the Eye-Fi server on the Synology it will do auto backup once a snap shot is taken. These are all seamless once setup. If your objective is purely photos backup suggest you look at 3 or 4TBs on Raid 1, at least when you upgrade your camera and have bigger raw files it should be sufficient.

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post Oct 23 2013, 06:30 PM

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guys, im looking for NAS to use for torrent, file storage server.

looking at buffulo linkstation pro duo, any review?
i wish it has usb3.0 tho
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post Oct 23 2013, 09:19 PM

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Hi, I'm interested in NAS and would like to know a few things:

1) I don't have wired network like Streamyx at home, I use mobile broadband, is NAS required an internet service to run or I just attach the NAS to a wireless router then it would work?

2)Any NAS device with build-in wifi and antenna available on the market?

3) I don't see any different in the features between cheap and expensive model, what makes it different then? Transfer speed? Lifespan?
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post Oct 24 2013, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Oct 24 2013, 03:20 AM)
Yes it can work for wireless or wired internet. However if your talking about your lan network, most cases it needs to be wired, meaning that although your router has wireless internet, the router still needs to be physicall wired to the NAS via ethernet.

However there are some exceptions to this. I believe QNAP for example has a wireless adapter support, so you don't need to be physically wired to the router, and thus can operate wirelessly in your home lan network. You just plug in a wireless usb adapter of your choice into the QNAP usb port, and you will be able to connect.
Qnap opted for a wireless adapter approach.
http://www.qnap.com/en/?lang=en&sn=1014

Synology has a NAS product with the wireless feature internally built into it
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2018283/syn...ough-value.html
There is a lot of difference between low/mid/high end model NAS such as....

1. hardware specs e.g..... how much ram (more better), cpu power (higher for better performance, lower for the opposite, but has better power savings), network speed (the speed of how fast data uploads/downloads in your local network. This also affects streaming speed/quality for media such as music and hi-def videos).

2. software/firmware e.g. the graphics user interface navigating/configuring the options on the NAS. ease of use to install/modify apps. how many features it provides you to do, ranging from entertainment, utility, security etc etc.....

3. how much storage bays does it have, to support how many, and what types of hard drives. In summary, what is the max storage capacity can the NAS have ?

4. aesthethics - the outdoor appearance and build quality. Also is it a box or a rack chasis ?

5. warranty and support - is warranty covered ? And what is technical support like ? If you opt for a DIY NAS, nobody is going to help you period. But maybe a branded NAS has technical support on their forum to assist you regarding their product if you buy it.
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I found a low end ZFS NAS here
Review:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5130/info...iew/index3.html
http://www.eonnas.com/us/products/eonnas-p...-210#ad-image-0

http://www.amazon.com/Infortrend-EonNAS-2-...2/dp/B00BBPYTI2
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/i...ies-1773398.htm
The thing though, it has only 2gb ram, so this could be problematic could stuff like deduplication which requires alot of ram, minimum 8gb ecc ram i heard :/ so i'm not sure how well a ZFS NAS would work when not provided enough ram it should have  hmm.gif

Also another thing, this particular brand lacks extra features that brands like Synology and QNAP offer e.g. torrent client etc.... But instead it focuses more on reliability of storage, which to me sounds good, seeing as thats mostly i want it for  smile.gif
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Wow, very detail, thanks.

So even if my router is not connected to internet, I still could build a local area network between the NAS and my pc right?
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Just wondering whether any of you guys have redundant NAS setup to cater for NAS Failure. NAS protected us from harddisk failure, but once the NAS kaput, that is the unsolvable problem.
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