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 The SONY (FF & APS-C) E-Mount Thread ver. 5, Full-Frame A7 & A7R Released Malaysia!

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danielcmugen
post Nov 1 2013, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 1 2013, 02:45 PM)
Extension tubes are so that you can move much closer to the subject, usually in the macro territory. It could be that you did not move close enough to the thing you wanted to capture - as in REAL close. OR you moved in TOO close, which in that case, you need to step back out a bit, a couple of cm will do in most cases. As for manual focus, just turn the focus ring if your lens is a manual lens, if it's an AF lens, disable the AF switch and then turn the focus ring.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 1 2013, 03:02 PM)
What lens are you using?
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Std 16-50 kit lens
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post Nov 1 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 1 2013, 03:14 PM)
Ooohhhhh... unpowered NEX lenses will not have an active focusing connection AFAIK due to the fact that they're using built-in AF motors. You'll need to use a manual lens or an AF lens driven by screw-drive AF (eg A-mount lenses) to be able to MF.
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Wtf, I'm doomed.

Another question, my extension tube can be split into 3 parts. From what I read, different parts means different magnification. But how come for my case, I can get a decent pic only if I use all 3 together? If I use just 1 or 2, it will be very blur....no matter how near/far am I from the object.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 1 2013, 03:28 PM)
Honestly, I have not used extension tubes before, I've read about them previously when I had a thought of getting one, but ended up didn't.

So to answer your 3-2-1 issue, I'll leave to those who used them before to reply.

But seeing that you can't seem to adjust focus on your lens, it's either powered off and locked at the infinity or MFD point. You'll need to look for a proper MF lens to test it out for yourself.

extra question: did you know what were you buying into when you get the extension tubes? research on it? read up on its functions and limitations etc?
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Since non-AF is only RM30, I only did some basic research. All I know is that it allows u to focus on the object nearer, no optics inside (hence no loss of image quality) and also a bit of the 3-2-1.

QUOTE(little ice @ Nov 1 2013, 03:45 PM)
buy a cheap manual lens off eBay for $50. biggrin.gif
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What type of lens do u recommend? Minolta MD?

I have to get http://www.ebay.com/itm/Minolta-MD-Lens-To...=item1e737d82d3 + http://www.ebay.com/itm/Minolta-MD-Rokkor-...=item3cd7c238c9 ???
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 1 2013, 05:46 PM)
I'd recommend this instead of the 50
http://r.ebay.com/TUjP3k
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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Nov 1 2013, 06:01 PM)
Most dumb adapters are more or less the same in construction. I've both a few and went along with Fotga most of the time.

Again, when people ask "what is recommended lenses" , it's best to support this question to what purpose you want it for?

For portrait go with Minolta 58mm 1.4 , sometimes when I want a more creative approach I go Helios 44.
Street I have a Minolta 28mm 2.8
Tele + tele macro - Minolta 135mm 3.5
Macro - Minolta 50mm 3.5 Macro with 1:1 tube

Among my other less used vintage lenses I also have a couple Industar 61, Minolta 50mm 1.7, Vivitar 75-205mm.

It's pretty fun and surprising to go full manual.

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DSC00379 by Redlyfs, on Flickr
Taken with Minolta 135mm 3.5 with 1:1
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My usage is mainly for insect macro shots, maybe some animal(cat/dog type of size) and human portraits. Creamy bokeh is highly preferred too. So I think 50mm f/1.7 is more suitable for me, more of an all-rounder since I can use extension tubes for macro. Then for normal landscape shots I'll use my 16-50 kit lens. What do u think?

Also, a few more questions.
1) What do these Minolta MD / MC / FC mean?
2) How old are these manual lenses? No more in production edi?
3) How's the image quality? On par with modern basic prime lenses?

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post Nov 2 2013, 02:21 AM

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Some questions about those vintage lenses.

1) Last time 1 seller told me that if I use non-Sony lenses, it might affect firmware update in the future. True?

2) How manual are these manual lenses? Only thing manual is the manual focus right?

3) Aperture/shutter speed/ISO/HDR and all that can be digitally operated? Can press button on the body and operate it from the screen? Just wanna confirm cuz it's called manual lens.... rclxub.gif

4) While taking pics, can I view it from my electronic viewfinder?
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post Nov 2 2013, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Nov 2 2013, 02:39 AM)
Manual focus, and aperture. Sometimes you need to do some manual mod. For example to get the manual aperture ring working on Helios 44m-n.
Aperture no. The rest can
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Huh? blink.gif Minolta MC 58mm f/1.4 and MC 50mm f/3.5 need to do any aperture mod?

Also, can a normal NEX extension tube work with these Minoltas? Do I need a specific extension tube like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINOLTA-EXTENSION-...=item27d9f75ed9

It seems that the MC 58mm f/1.4 has a minimum focus distance of 2 ft (60cm), wonder if it's good enough for macro even with extension tubes.

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Nov 2 2013, 12:07 PM)
For Minolta lenses, no.
Minolta MD/MC and NEX uses different mounts. You absolutely need a different adapter.
So if you want to use that 1:1 tube, you set-up will be like this
Camera + NEX-MD/MC adapter + 1:1 tube + MD/MC mount lens
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So how to control minolta aperture?
1:1 tube is my currrent modern extension tube?
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QUOTE(nlik @ Nov 2 2013, 12:31 PM)
Menu>camera> AF/MF select.
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Nope, even when I select MF it displays "lens not supported"

QUOTE(redlyfs @ Nov 2 2013, 02:09 PM)
https://www.google.com/search?q=minolta+rok...19%3B1200%3B804

There are two rings. One for focus, another for aperture. It's a tautology
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Thanks
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QUOTE(little ice @ Nov 2 2013, 05:03 PM)
"release without lens"
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Did that already. The exact message when I go to AF/MF select is actually "Invalid because lens not attached. Attach the lens correctly." I turn the focus ring also no respond.

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Nov 2 2013, 05:35 PM)
What lens are you using? 16-50? Can you show what kind of adapter are you using? Powered / non-powered?
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Ya, 16-50. No we're just talking about extension tubes, no adapter.
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post Nov 2 2013, 05:51 PM

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I think I dun want extension tubes edi, go straight for macro lens. Can Sony SEL30M35 (30mm macro lens) work with NEX 3N body? Auto and Manual focus can work? Without any adapter whatsoever.

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QUOTE(nlik @ Nov 2 2013, 09:26 PM)
Oh.. now i roughly get what you are trying to do. You are trying to convert the Kit PowerZoom lens into a Macro lens. If there's no electronic contacts on the extension tube, I doubt SELP1650 can be zoomed or focused. 

Instead, you may try to attach the kit SELP1650 lens directly to the NEX body,  and then set it to F8.0 which should be it's sharpest aperture.  WITHOUT TURNING OFF the NEX cam, detach the SELP1650. It should remain open and zoomed out.  Then power off the NEX, attach the extension tube and lens and try.  I guess the Menu >setup>release w/o lens should be enabled

Otherwise, if you can find it.. get the KENKO brand of extension tubes for NEX. This one seems to have the pins which will electronically connect the lens to the body via extension tube.

I'd rather try finding a prime lens with aperture and focus rings for this though.
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Thx, but it's still not working
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post Nov 3 2013, 04:59 PM

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Just bought the 30mm macro lens smile.gif , only RM590 at Studio Zaloon.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 3 2013, 05:34 PM)
Shoot some photo. Share it
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I find the focusing ring a bit hard to turn as compared to my kit lens. Focal length, for macro shots certainly I would prefer a longer 1. But at least this 30mm can double up to be used for normal shots too, so no need to bring 2 lenses at once.

Overall, very happy! thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 5 2013, 09:53 AM)
Daniel, nice colors!
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All my pics I post in NEX photo gallery https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1480097/+480 , but that thread not very active. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Nov 10 2013, 05:34 PM)
Guyss, how to shoot like these? Blur on the background, while focus on the subject/object. Telephoto lens issit? And the colors, did you edit or it's in its original color?
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I'm using macro lens. If u just want to know how to make it blur, it actually blurs on its own when u take close up shots. Any camera with auto-focus can make the background blur. But to make it blurrer, use a bigger aperture. The colour, I edit using Lightroom.
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Nov 20 2013, 04:58 PM)
just a warning to everyone, be careful with your buttons especially the dials at the wheel (ISO,Disp, etc) Just got back mine from sony service center, they changed the switch block and control. Bought mine at mid april only
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How to be careful? Press less?
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QUOTE(petrofsky77 @ Nov 28 2013, 08:48 PM)
That's why you should always invest in an external charger. Charging directly thru the body should only be use for emergency cases. Just becoz Sony said you can charge thru body doesn't mean that it will not come with downsides ...
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What are the downsides of charging thru body?
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QUOTE(tessei @ Nov 29 2013, 10:24 AM)
at least if  got electrical surge / spike / lightning - your external charger get burn 1st not the main body..
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QUOTE(Ksano @ Nov 29 2013, 10:34 AM)
yes, One of my friend also not dare to transfer picture direct usb from camera, instead he use card reader. Since there are cases the body fried due to unstable usb current
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But the chance of it to happen is same as handphone? Since handphone also charge from body. Or camera got extra risk?

http://www.sony.com.my/product/bc-vw1 This kind take how long for full charge?

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