There are so many SC2 tournaments, which one to focus one? and it's kinda sad to see the Koreans dominating SC2, I mean come on, where is the fun, doesn't feel like it's a global game, just like dota few years ago, China dominate the world, in top 8, there are 6 China teams, in SMM 2011, a malaysian international dota tournament, i even stopped watching when i know it's china vs china at grand final. In SC2, where is all the other famous non Korean? Grubby, Thorzain, etc etc, all I see is that mostly start from quarter final, is it all Koreans, the non koreans didnt join or all got knocked out? and which tournament is the best interesting right now? there are few going on but I am not sure which one to focus on.

The simple answer is watch what's convenient xD.

The Non koreans a lot join but again the numbers depend on which tournament you are watching. Dreamhack or EU based tourneys a lot of them. Asia side expect more Koreans.

Kinda sad that Koreans are dominating? I don't get this.

Just like in SCBW, Koreans are the lifeblood of the SC2 scene. I personally like watching Koreans play because they're the cream of the crop. The best of the best. And many of the Korean vs Korean games end up as spectacular games. I used to watch the NASL and the non-Koreans just do not play at the same level as the Koreans in SPL and GSTL. Korean mechanics are just awe-inspiring and a cut above non-Koreans.

Non-Koreans vs Koreans are nice games too, because the Non-Korean just tries his best to play against the Korean and the Non-Korean gets to show some flashes of brilliance. Sen, Naniwa, MoonGlade, Stephano are, in my opinion (note the emphasis), a few guys who could give a Korean a run for his money, but over a Bo3, Bo5 or Bo7, my money's always on the Korean.

Yes, in any tournament with marquee Korean players, always expect to see a Korean bracket starting at the Round of 8. The just-concluded ASUS ROG tournament had a few good Koreans on board, and, if I remember correctly, only 1 (or probably 2) Korean/s failed to make it out of the group stages.

And here's why Koreans (like Taeja, Stardust, Jaedong, DongRaeGu, Hero, among others) compete outside Korea: They know that they cannot (or will have a difficult time if they) compete within Korea, most especially against the ace players Flash, Innovation, Soulkey, Rain, among others. They know that they have a better chance of winning against non-Koreans outside Korea.

Grubby, Thorzain, TLO against Taeja, Stardust, Jaedong? This might go either way but, I'm sorry, but my money is still on the Koreans. But I do hope the Non-Koreans still show a good game and not be roflstomped.

Grubby, Thorzain, TLO against Innovation, Soulkey, Rain? No contest, Koreans all the way.

Kinda sad that koreans are dominating? some kind of raycist? lol

because korean work harder and practice harder.

Oh OP is like, I hate they because our players are lazier than them lol

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Aug 5 2013, 09:24 PM

not saying that I hate Koreans, it's just boring to see an ethnicity conquering the game it would be better to see more ethnicity at higher plays, just like dota2, there are europeans, asians, americans and stuff, it's like saying chinese are good at basketball and malays are good at soccer, what's the good of it? now that is racist saying chinese are good at basketball, there should be multiple races enjoying at top plays

well, who's the closest non-korean that is almost on par with most pro korean? the one that has the highest winning records against korean

Stephano very macro zerg. 12 minutes roach all in, so imba that build in wol.

Idra also quite good.

This post has been edited by GodJesterZ: Aug 5 2013, 11:23 PM

the koreans are good in sc because they are interested in the game and it is the cultural since long time ago, u cant force people from other countries to be good in sc2 if they dont have interest in it just to feed your desire to watch equally multinational competitive game, they can be good in dota2 as well imo but they dont find it interested thats all

The only non-Korean I could say held his own against Koreans is Guillaume "Grrrr..." Patry, because he's the only non-Korean who has ever won an OSL.

I already answered your question in my previous post. The best Koreans right now? In my opinion? Innovation. Soulkey. Flash. Rain. And you still ask which non-Korean comes close to them?

None. Not even close.

HuK, Thorzain and Stephano competed for EGTL in the just-concluded SPL. They played against Koreans every week during the SPL. Stephano was the "best" among the non-Koreans with a 4-8 win-loss record. He's nowhere close to Korean level. Grubby? Irrelevant since HotS was released.

HotS is a very unforgiving game for those who do not have the best mechanics. So, as far as HotS is concerned, non-Koreans just do not have enough to match what Korea has.

I don't know how else you could talk about SC2 if you get bored with watching the best (the Koreans), while everyone else in the world watches them so they could learn more than just builds.

Edit: By the way, Stephano will be retiring after August 15 to start medical school so yeh, one less of the best non-Koreans.

This post has been edited by EnTaroAdun23: Aug 6 2013, 08:49 AM

Medical school huh....thats a long way to go lol. then again he's 20 now unlike my 23 :s.

i read alot about sc2 saying about mechanic, what exactly is the mechanic? like tricks? or?

Here you go.

This post has been edited by EnTaroAdun23: Aug 6 2013, 11:11 AM

Make sure worker units are being produced.

I play zerg sometimes and I just dont know when to stop producing drones, my drones is so many, its like around 100 counts, becoz I have 4-5 bases, and plus 4-5 queens, which left around 70-80 supply for my army only, I guess sometimes u have to stop producing your workers at mid-late to late game?

wa...can manage 4-5 bases with 4-5 queens, so pro sial.

100 drones excessive d. 80 is good enuf lol. Your main base should run out by the time u have a 5th.

just inject with queen only is easy ar, but sometimes build extractor and manage drone there plus defending it, I cannot la, oh, you are right, I should stop sending drones to suicide instead during late game. people play zerg apm 180 or above, my average 120 only

Wa...just start 120 ad...I so noob sial T_T.

I love playing mid/late game so it's not unnatural for me to go 5/6 bases (with at least 3 macro hatches) by 16 or 18 minutes. But what I do is I keep to 4 queens injecting non-stop on my main, natural, 3rd and my first macro hatch which I usually place near my main or natural. I make more macro hatches to bring my queens to heal my tier 3 units.

Tier 3 units (and upgrades) are very gas heavy and to get there, every player needs to get to 5 bases (10 geysers churning out approximately 1200 gas per in-game minute) as quickly but as safely as possible.

I don't mind going over 100 drones because I tend to use them for spines in front of my bases (or spores behind my bases), most especially if I have more than 2000 minerals banked.

You just have to know when to stop pumping drones, when to resume pumping drones and start pumping units, when to transition, when to expand, and so on.

So pro.......I shall go QQ in the corner lol