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WhySoSerious12
post Aug 6 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Aug 6 2013, 11:21 AM)
just inject with queen only is easy ar, but sometimes build extractor and manage drone there plus defending it, I cannot la,  cry.gif oh, you are right, I should stop sending drones to suicide instead during late game. people play zerg apm 180 or above, my average 120 only  sweat.gif
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wa u learn quite fast lo,

i still around 90 apm average 80 apm...
ravenfire
post Aug 6 2013, 06:36 PM

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I dont see why you guys so obsessed with apm...
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post Aug 6 2013, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(ravenfire @ Aug 6 2013, 06:36 PM)
I dont see why you guys so obsessed with apm...
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You aren't obsessed because you have over 9000.
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post Aug 6 2013, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Aug 6 2013, 04:49 PM)
imba ppl talk in imba thread read also can feel the imbaness~ btw my apm is 50-75
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post Aug 6 2013, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(DuskBin.Marksman @ Aug 6 2013, 07:13 PM)
You aren't obsessed because you have over 9000.
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Natural apm >.> i dont pump myself with apm i cant use ^^
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post Aug 6 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(ravenfire @ Aug 6 2013, 07:36 PM)
Natural apm >.> i dont pump myself with apm i cant use ^^
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Natural APM over 9000...zomg Godlike.
ravenfire
post Aug 6 2013, 10:03 PM

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where got 9k ._. 200 oni
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post Aug 7 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(ravenfire @ Aug 6 2013, 10:03 PM)
where got 9k ._. 200 oni
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"only"
DuskBin.Marksman
post Aug 7 2013, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 7 2013, 10:50 AM)
"only"
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"only" I know right.
TSIvan113
post Aug 7 2013, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 7 2013, 10:50 AM)
"only"
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I want 140 also hard edi sad.gif
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post Aug 7 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Aug 7 2013, 02:39 PM)
I want 140 also hard edi  sad.gif
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im on 50
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post Aug 7 2013, 02:45 PM

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ZZZ apm doesnt matter lah.... 200 apm with shit mechanics isnt going to get anyone anywhere... should concentrate more on actually improving compared to spamming hotkeys for faster apm
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post Aug 7 2013, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(ravenfire @ Aug 7 2013, 02:45 PM)
ZZZ apm doesnt matter lah.... 200 apm with shit mechanics isnt going to get anyone anywhere... should concentrate more on actually improving compared to spamming hotkeys for faster apm
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my apm wasn't the result of spamming, I was actually doing real things all the time, if I have nothing to do, I'll just stop for that few seconds before continue mechanic, but just 140, I guess either my limit is there or I am not doing things fast enough in a correct way


anyway, I watched few videos from Apollo, Improve with Apollo, really nice insights there, he talks alot, i mean really ALOT about scouting, very useful tips, and there goes Day 9 youtube video channels too, but the strategy he talks about is very very deep, have to think for some time only understand what he says
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post Aug 7 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Aug 7 2013, 02:57 PM)
my apm wasn't the result of spamming, I was actually doing real things all the time, if I have nothing to do, I'll just stop for that few seconds before continue mechanic, but just 140, I guess either my limit is there or I am not doing things fast enough in a correct way
anyway, I watched few videos from Apollo, Improve with Apollo, really nice insights there, he talks alot, i mean really ALOT about scouting, very useful tips, and there goes Day 9 youtube video channels too, but the strategy he talks about is very very deep, have to think for some time only understand what he says
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Usually everyone says that they are doing real things all the time. The best way to confirm it though is record FPVOD and see for yourself. I know I am very efficient with APM because I confirmed it with the FPVOD.

It also confirms my issue with making workers lol and how to improve certain things such as hotkeys and so on. . To learn the techniques again need to see FPVOD.

No comment about the lessons ebcause they're good tongue.gif.
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post Aug 7 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(DuskBin.Marksman @ Aug 7 2013, 02:59 PM)
Usually everyone says that they are doing real things all the time. The best way to confirm it though is record FPVOD and see for yourself. I know I am very efficient with APM because I confirmed it with the FPVOD.

It also confirms my issue with making workers lol and how to improve certain things such as hotkeys and so on. . To learn the techniques again need to see FPVOD.

No comment about the lessons ebcause they're good tongue.gif.
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i thought EPM should be the standard for evaluating the efficiency? how do they calculate apm or epm?

it is like

APM
click worker = 1 action
move worker to that location = 1 action
click zergling = 1 action
morph into baneling = 1 action
select hive = 1 action
select larva = 1 action
morph into zergling = 1 action

total = 7 action

is it like that? and how to measure EPM?


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post Aug 7 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Aug 7 2013, 03:05 PM)
i thought EPM should be the standard for evaluating the efficiency? how do they calculate apm or epm?

it is like

APM
click worker = 1 action
move worker to that location = 1 action
click zergling = 1 action
morph into baneling = 1 action
select hive = 1 action
select larva = 1 action
morph into zergling = 1 action

total = 7 action

is it like that? and how to measure EPM?
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APM is like that yes. What EPM does is actually filter out the repetitive commands that are executed within the list. Or they also filter out the commands such as selecting stuff. I don't know the full extent of their filter.


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post Aug 7 2013, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(DuskBin.Marksman @ Aug 7 2013, 03:11 PM)
APM is like that yes. What EPM does is actually filter out the repetitive commands that are executed within the list. Or they also filter out the commands such as selecting stuff. I don't know the full extent of their filter.
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http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/...een-epm-and-apm
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post Aug 7 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Aug 7 2013, 03:29 PM)
Yes, a more precise version of my explanations lol.
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post Aug 7 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(DuskBin.Marksman @ Aug 7 2013, 03:35 PM)
Yes, a more precise version of my explanations lol.
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i think EPM should be more emphasized, APM isn't really accurate I guess, I could be jamming my keyboard like Jaedong, but if EPM is only 30, what's the use biggrin.gif
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my apm 50-75~ seriously cant handle any multi pronged attack by diamond korean terran on kr ladder~ just cant keep up n die

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