Actually, that is more of an attitude problem, not a person being so protocol & stuff. If U have that kinda attitude, no matter where U end up, it's the same case. But now that the person ended up in an elite civil service position, with some power some more, it's even worse la. Some of us, even the JUSA ones dun give a damn about protocol, so as I said, it's down to attitude problem.

I dun have problem mixing with any of my staff (I have 13 under me). But I can sense that sometimes they are a bit segan with me. Then nothing I can do la. But some others I have absolutely no prob, even with the PARs. I ride a motorbike to work, one of my kerani drive a Wish to work (they're husband's la). To me, to be able to serve with honor in the civil service, is about being able to fit in well no matter where U are stationed. I told one of my clerks the other day, to be noticed in the service, means U have to be relevant in the service. U dun have to "kipas" Ur way up.

It's all down to attitude. Have the right one, will travel...

This post has been edited by tenno: Oct 22 2007, 12:02 PM

U can check from previous pages..

Bad news for me..last exam on 4/8 fail..need to study more..any tips since I consider to sit the exam as long as I can till success be one of PTD

guys u all if got passed or have a will to seek this position seriously can refer to this forum


http://forum.ptdportal.com/index.php?showtopic=455&st=375

lotsa info for ptd , exam tips, things for assesment, miau miau

This post has been edited by Nakhtaladakh: Oct 23 2007, 09:25 PM

Halo, I didn't know this thread existed. I'll be going to INTURA in Sungai Petani next month for the PTD Unggul programme. Who else is going? Maybe we could car pool? Anyone who know me, please give me a call (Don't have friends going there).

Amir Bashah
BBA Transport
Uitm Shah Alam

I see. I have less experience with govt environment, only deal with them directly in less than a year when I working as vendor in some govt office in Pusat Bandar Damansara.

Anyway, u have my respect for being humble. Please keep it for the rest of your life.

You know, for being in private sector, I can't hid the fact that I have always have critics to people who being govt servant

Well, I dun blame U. I was in the private sector for 5 years before joining the service, 4 of those was in the business of doing govt projects as a vendor. When I was in the private sector I always say this & that about the govt & when I joined the service I see what was actually going on, why some things are the way they are. That was one of my goals when I joined the govt, to see things from a different perspective. All I can say that there are many good ppl in the govt who are trying to change things for the better. We are serving the ppl, at the same time we are the ppl as well. Some ppl dun see the difference & that is when trouble surfaces.

The govt have to think about so many things, & cannot just simply do things to please one group of ppl. Those who always criticize the govt dun see things in a broader perspective. Working in a central agency will make U see things in a broader perspective.

Sometimes it's funny when ppl say that working in govt means U relax la. I dun deny that some ppl in the govt (well, most of them actually) lives in comfort zones only they can see. Some ppl work like hell. Heck, I feel that I've been much busier now that I was in the private sector !

Just my 2 cents (wonder where this phrase came from... why not one cent ?... heheh)

Nice seeing you here too amirbashah

Are you going to Kedah next month?

Oooo, you're the one from PTD portal. Haha......

Do you like Zelda games? I think you do looking at your personal photo. Link

Can't wait to start work

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 28 2007, 01:04 PM

How many times do they conduct the exam in a year?

Thanks

heck, you were right,
Im not in M41 but have been experience the same,

I think twice a year. Correct me if I'm wrong.

thanks amir,

do you know in what month do they usually conduct the exams?

Well, I took the exam in March and a few of my friends was in August. But I'm still not sure whether my facts are correct or not. Check PTD Portal, you can find a lot of information pertaining this subject.

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 30 2007, 04:30 PM

Yup, I do enjoy Zelda games

Me too can't wait to attend the PTD Unggul module. I'll see you there

What's ur real name? I'll be going there all by myself . By bus. Ocarina of Time is the best Zelda game. Period.

anybody here will undergo PAC at Kluang this Friday?
searching for someone to go with me..lol

good luck in your exams peeps.... i've sat for the PAC exams on August n failed.... huhuhu.... i guess better luck next time.....

however, i'll be sitting for my LHDN exam this 14th November.... hopefully i can make it through....

sifu tenno..
thanks for the infos..

aiya rash...how's bahagian darat?? don forget me

Blah la .... ko dok la kat BKN tu, takyah kuar2....

Wei, bowling wei .....