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 PEGAWAI TADBIR DAN DIPLOMATIK-M41, ....

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tenno
post Jul 23 2007, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(St.Daring @ Jun 3 2007, 11:31 AM)
U know any Datuk or orang dalam , then easier...hehehe

All the best rclxms.gif
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Don't count on it. I can vouch for the fact that PTD is proly the only service scheme that no matter how big Ur cable is inside, it won't help.


Added on July 23, 2007, 9:20 am
QUOTE(MSMS @ Jun 2 2007, 02:33 PM)
Talking about salary, starting for M41 P1T1 is 1733.59 + (ITKA) 300 + (Housing) 210 + (COLA) 150 - EPF = RM2,127.59.
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Let me update this:

Starting basic at P1T1 : RM1993.63 (new rate)
Housing : RM210
COLA : RM300
ITKA : RM300
Total starting salary M41 : RM2803.63

Pretty good for a fresh grad I guess.

This post has been edited by tenno: Jul 23 2007, 09:20 AM
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post Jul 23 2007, 09:41 AM

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well..of course the salary is high what do you expect? this ptd is the "anak emas" (golden child) of the civil service... they got many "power" woo...hehehe...
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post Jul 24 2007, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(karim_effendy @ Jul 23 2007, 09:41 AM)
well..of course the salary is high what do you expect? this ptd is the "anak emas" (golden child) of the civil service... they got many "power" woo...hehehe...
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With great power comes great responsibility.

Those who do not practice that gives the service a bad name...
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post Jul 24 2007, 04:26 PM

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me at kajang..heheheh..anyone wit me? rclxms.gif ..best of LUCK!!!
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post Jul 25 2007, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(slingswish @ Jan 23 2007, 09:07 PM)
my fren get the chance to work but he reject -.-" coz working with am bank lol
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Your friend from Kelantan? WHy reject
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post Jul 26 2007, 11:30 AM

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my exam at sekolah menengah perempuan Pudu. Anyone with me?

What your guys opinion about the issues that will be address this 4/8 exam? any guess? It help me a lot. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 27 2007, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkantoi @ Jul 26 2007, 11:30 AM)
my exam at sekolah menengah perempuan Pudu. Anyone with me?

What your guys opinion about the issues that will be address this 4/8 exam? any guess? It help me a lot. rclxms.gif
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read more about current issue.. try to relate campaigns that had been done by government in ur essays..
gdluck guys!!
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post Aug 1 2007, 08:25 PM

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anyone have any ideas which chapters will come out from the "Malaysia Kita" book?


Added on August 1, 2007, 8:54 pmanyone have any ideas which chapters will come out from the "Malaysia Kita" book?

This post has been edited by otherwise: Aug 1 2007, 08:54 PM
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post Aug 2 2007, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Jul 23 2007, 09:17 AM)
Don't count on it. I can vouch for the fact that PTD is proly the only service scheme that no matter how big Ur cable is inside, it won't help.


Added on July 23, 2007, 9:20 am

Let me update this:

Starting basic at P1T1 : RM1993.63 (new rate)
Housing : RM210
COLA : RM300
ITKA : RM300
Total starting salary M41 : RM2803.63

Pretty good for a fresh grad I guess.
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i would like to ask is the benefit allowance is the same for all governement post other than the basic salary?
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post Aug 2 2007, 01:54 PM

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anyone got SEK.MEN.KEB.TAMAN MELAWATI,JALAN FASA 6?where is this location?10q
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post Aug 3 2007, 08:28 AM

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post Aug 3 2007, 11:45 AM

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post Aug 15 2007, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(AaronCjS @ Aug 2 2007, 12:55 AM)
i would like to ask is the benefit allowance is the same for all governement post other than the basic salary?
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Sorry for the late reply..

It depends on your grade (i.e. a grade 41 will get much more than grade 29), the COLA depends on your location. I'm not sure if U can check the allowances in JPA/SPA website. Maybe U can check it out.
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Ive gone through all 3 stages (exam->PAC->Interview), and finally got accepted. Im supposed to report duty this 20th August at INTAN Kemaman. But guess what, ive rejected the offer smile.gif tongue.gif .
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post Aug 15 2007, 06:44 PM

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hey ppl how do i apply for these positions?
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post Aug 15 2007, 07:44 PM

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apply via online @ spa.gov.my
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post Aug 31 2007, 08:06 PM

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About PTD, i just want to share my personal opinion and experience, as I knew some of them and heard some poor comments about this 'elite group'.

It didn't need a rocket scientist to acquire skills and knowledge in managerial and administration position. I feel that employer with sound experience and knowledge in its related works, if promoted to management position can contribute a lot more compare to those who has been trained in management position, as I believe, experience is the best teacher amongst all. This is what has been practiced in private sector, based on my experience working with one of the blue chip company and other companies as well, which told by friends of mine and clients that I met during works. PTD, as far as I know, is appointed to focus on admin and management work, without any details knowledge and experience related to their job scope.

There are also some bad examples from PTD and JUSA. I take a recent example for us to ponder. A JUSA, probably a director or somebody up there announced to offer a VSS scheme to under performed government staff, which in actual fact, VSS is offered because a company/ organization has poor financial capabilities that trigger the idea of VSS; part of the cost saving strategies and avoid any further loss incur. Under performed staff should be sack, not rewarded! Also, a JUSA, appointed as a director position in government's public health office, does he really know about health and related problems? compare to those experienced medical officers? There are also few PTD that I know, have been sent for few financial courses, heard they got diploma for it. But as far as I see, they have poor financial management; debt everywhere (credit card, personal loans), lavish lifestyle which not commensurate with their monthly pay. With the way they manage their personal finance, I am not convince that they can take bigger financial portfolio in government agencies.

Don't get me wrong, it is not because I hate people that holding the PTD position. It is the system, inherited since British empire which government still adapt today that stir the trouble among government servants. Poor coordination and implementation, which according to constitution, this is under executive group, which lead and manage by PTD. Also, lack of responsibility, esp on high level officers, which I assume most of them are PTD. So, for those PTD out there, don't laud yourself as an elite and professional group. You guys are just a previleged group; pampered and well taken care by the government.

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post Aug 31 2007, 08:18 PM

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Interesting about PTD, and I have a distant family member who currently works as PTD. We hang out a lot with some other PTD and non-PTD friends.

What he always talk about his always promotions, transfer to this or that department, complimenting or demonizing their bosses, who knows who and how to get connected and stuffs like that. It's quite rare they talk about what they are doing as PTDs.

Disappointing.

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post Aug 31 2007, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(bitterbutter @ Aug 31 2007, 08:06 PM)
Also, a JUSA, appointed as a director position in government's public health office, does he really know about health and related problems? compare to those experienced medical officers?
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bitterbutter, even medical doctors can rise up to JUSA scale, not just PTD eg : our Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan ; Tan Sri Ismail Merican is on JUSA scale. The head of State health office are all doctors. Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan is a doctor. The ministry health dept is headed by a doctor. PTD only take care the admin, HR and finance aspect of the health ministry. We have lots of technical people in Health ministry : doctors, engineers. you can check www.moh.gov.my for further information.
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post Sep 1 2007, 04:53 PM

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guys..wana ask a little bit..

i'm goin to finish my studies by this november maybe..
interested to apply for this position..but do i apply after i get my final result or i can apply eventhough there's no final result yet? or maybe i even have to wait until my convo?

are there any minimum requirements i have to meet to apply?
like 1st class or etc.? or any min. age rquirement?
the selection goes thru 3 stages is it?

let's say if i got the offer..is it up to the govt. to send to whichever dept. or state that they want? and what is the position that i'll start as if accepted?

any infos provided are greatly appreciated..thanx!


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