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post Feb 23 2010, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Feb 21 2010, 09:11 PM)
If Ur referring to Govt quarters, then Ur statement might not be so accurate. But then again, just go to Bahagian Pengurusan Hartanah in JPM, ask around la. The rental is not RM200, in fact, there's no rental at all. U just pay the bills, & they will deduct Ur housing allowance.
Hmm.. how am I gonna answer this  hmm.gif

It's no secret that some, if not most of the non-contract PTD officer have expressed displeasure about the way some of the new contract officers are being hired. Reason being, they had to go thru 3 stages of interview process, some had to take the exam 5-6 times, maybe more. Even I had to go for interview twice. & now, the JPA simply pick their scholars & walk them right into the system. Even for us, there's been question about our lack of experience la, no knowledge la, itu la, ini la.. how do U think the new contract officers would fare ? Some of us have got good grades too, some are even masters holders. Why weren't we selected that way ? This is the govt, of course ppl will talk. Ppl have been talking about using cable la, sedara mara la.... now this is a fibre optic cable we're talking about here...

Having said that, I would say, the new contract officers, especially from JPA, have a LOT to prove. Being in MOF, I understand the reason the govt decided to open up the intake process that way. But believe me, we didn't see it coming, not from JPA. From SPA yes, but not from JPA. As for them not being in favour of senior officers, even some of us had to go thru that experience. We are working with ppl, not machines. Just imagine working under somebody, who's relative have had to go thru PTD exam 10 times, PAC 4 times, interview twice, but still not making it thru, & now here U are...  We are all just human. Prove Urselves. Other ppl's weakness is not our strength. Some of the contract officers are good, some are not. I've seen it myself.

About the chances of being absorbed into permanent service, I've mentioned it many times before in this thread. Ade rezeki, then ade la. If not, then sorry la. It's Ur own choice, no one else's.
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Sir, I beg to differ pertaining this matter. Not all of us want to be here, Not all of us are happy with this call by jpa, and I believe most of us were doing well themselves in the respective company. I'm myself, personally think that this is a downgrade period of me. but hey, sometimes you need to honor what you promised, and deliver what has been signed by you 4or 5 years ago, move on, sulk all things up and try to be positive and look forward to the future.

Regarding senior officers not being able to accept the fact that we're jpa version, then f*** off and grow up. We do not choose to be here, we do not pick to be ptd. Some prefer to work things that related to what they have learned in school, to be engineer, acccountant, land broker and stuffs like that, but hey, who are we to decide, to argue with government decision pertaining this matter, because 5 years ago, we stupidly agreed to serve the government for any post given by the governemtn.

Again tenno, I'm not trying to piss anyone off, it's just probably our 'luck' to be here. Try to understand us and lets give the best service to the people.

Life is not about whining every single day, life is about moving on and pick things up.
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post Feb 24 2010, 12:53 PM

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I applied this post at SPA for a year now but nothing, not even being call for 1st Stage!!. 3 times i've renew my applications..nothingg....

This post has been edited by Dead4Life: Feb 24 2010, 12:53 PM
nabelon
post Feb 25 2010, 02:11 AM

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Anybody from KDN here, let us make some connections tongue.gif, I'm at JPN Perak.

p/s: waiting for placement at KDN is a painstaking process, mine took about a month.


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post Feb 25 2010, 03:12 AM

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guys, i nid to apply this thru the spa website rite?

wanna ask u guys opinion...
2more months and im bout to finish my degree in ipta.
u think i should start applying now using my stpm result or wait till i grad and get my degree cert and apply?

many many thanks in advance bro
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post Feb 25 2010, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Feb 25 2010, 03:12 AM)
guys, i nid to apply this thru the spa website rite?

wanna ask u guys opinion...
2more months and im bout to finish my degree in ipta.
u think i should start applying now using my stpm result or wait till i grad and get my degree cert and apply?

many many thanks in advance bro
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nope, u dun need to wait till u grad, but u need to finish the study 1st , means u already got last result from last exam b4 u grad, u already can apply..

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post Feb 25 2010, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Feb 24 2010, 12:53 PM)
I applied this post at SPA for a year now but nothing, not even being call for 1st Stage!!. 3 times i've renew my applications..nothingg....
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I applied some time mid last year. No news either.
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post Feb 25 2010, 02:49 PM

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edited
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post Feb 25 2010, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(redx @ Feb 25 2010, 02:03 PM)
nope, u dun need to wait till u grad, but u need to finish the study 1st , means u already got last result from last exam b4 u grad, u already can apply..
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i think april im going to finish my final liao..
den no more liao...

but if i apply i aso need the the whole semester result to fill the spa form rite bro?
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post Feb 25 2010, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(nabelon @ Feb 25 2010, 02:11 AM)
Anybody from KDN here, let us make some connections tongue.gif, I'm at JPN Perak.

p/s: waiting for placement at KDN is a painstaking process, mine took about a month.
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last year, 1 of ptd lepak at the library almost 6 months!!!
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post Feb 27 2010, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(jue137 @ Feb 23 2010, 12:34 AM)
Wonder what Mr.Tenno said "If not then, sorry la. Its ur own choice. no one else". What choice was it? Do you mean choice to fail the exams is it?  smile.gif
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Sir, I beg to differ pertaining this matter. Not all of us want to be here, Not all of us are happy with this call by jpa, and I believe most of us were doing well themselves in the respective company. I'm myself, personally think that this is a downgrade period of me. but hey, sometimes you need to honor what you promised, and deliver what has been signed by you 4or 5 years ago, move on, sulk all things up and try to be positive and look forward to the future.

Regarding senior officers not being able to accept the fact that we're jpa version, then f*** off and grow up. We do not choose to be here, we do not pick to be ptd. Some prefer to work things that related to what they have learned in school, to be engineer, acccountant, land broker and stuffs like that, but hey, who are we to decide, to argue with government decision pertaining this matter, because 5 years ago, we stupidly agreed to serve the government for any post given by the governemtn.

Again tenno, I'm not trying to piss anyone off, it's just probably our 'luck' to be here. Try to understand us and lets give the best service to the people.

Life is not about whining every single day, life is about moving on and pick things up.


That's exactly what I said. U had a choice. U've made one. Now pls do not say we don't want to be here or whatever. U had a choice. Nobody made them for U.

To Mr/Ms Slickdeals : If U think by using the F word makes U a grown man/woman, then think again. & again. & again.
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post Feb 27 2010, 05:16 PM

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Useless to whine and bising now.....I signed the contract of JPA $-ship with the hope of getting the post as researcher at Malaysian Nuclear Agency or Science officer at Lembaga Perlesenan Tenaga Atom soon after i graduate...

but now i get the offer as PTD and has to go for it....so. now I think I'll just forget about my dream and put to sleep my Nuclear interest......now I'l just think of working as PTD kontrak, even I don't like it and might not be interested with this job even after 2-3 yrs working as this post....just think of responsibility, salary and allowance....I'm considered to be lucky as there are a lot who have to resign after getting this offer...some are oversea engineering grads...that's a very huge sacrifice.....have to accept the hard fact that there are not much suitable post for those who studied Science, Engineering or other technical and advance courses....life and reality is cruel...accept the fact even it's very hard to accept... sad.gif sad.gif
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post Mar 4 2010, 01:35 PM

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so, who goes where?
where are u guys posted?
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:48 AM

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To all new officers, lantikan baru especially, if Ur looking for a relatively low-priced house to rent, can check out Bandar Saujana Putra. It's along the ELITE highway, just past Putra Heights. About 20 mins to Putrajaya (RM2.20 toll). Double storey terrace house (4 rooms, 3 baths) goes for RM500. That's cheap compared to Putrajaya/Cyberjaya/Pinggiran Putra rates. Those interested can PM me, I can give U the contact no.
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post Mar 9 2010, 12:17 AM

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woo hoo...i passed my interview ptd. new PTD staff coming now wink.gif
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post Mar 10 2010, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Feb 25 2010, 03:50 PM)
i think april im going to finish my final liao..
den no more liao...

but if i apply i aso need the the whole semester result to fill the spa form rite bro?
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if u mean the cumulative, yeah it is.
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post Mar 10 2010, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(AhGuan @ Feb 12 2010, 07:35 PM)
Was that your first interview?? so, what did the panel asked you??
haha just rest assure and safely assume the 1st assumption  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  well, since you are very keen on being a PTD, I wish you'll be selected for the next assessment  biggrin.gif

Thanks for your wish anyway, even I don't like the job, I think I'll learn something useful from that job and maybe, I might know someone that can recommend me to other scheme that I wish for (C and Q) during my service.  smile.gif

Gong Xi Fa Chai and Happy New Year to you too, jc_23

p.s. Gong Xi Fa Chai seems like not a good wish for government official, as getting rich and prosperous can be very controversial and related to core-up-tion.   biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif .
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Ya, this was my 1st interview,n ...

i've failed my interview ..
sigh ~

i have no idea what's the prob with my interview.
i was told by all of my fren, their interview took roughly 30min,
but mine, <10min.

all of them kena ask the FAQ,
8 bidang PTD, apa ministry yg anda nak masuk, kenape mau jadi PTD ...

n my question were:

(1) choose a topic, any topic and present it in English.
(2) choose a topic, any topic and present it in Malay.
(3) apakah yang anda faham tentang perjanjian dua hala ..

yup . tat's all, n finished, n as a result .. i failed.
could it be at the very beginning, they oledi set to failed me?
I have no idea ..

well, nth i can do, but sincere wish to all those who have passed the interview ..
all da best ~

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post Mar 11 2010, 12:36 AM

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I'm an end result of government diplomat, wisma putra. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 11 2010, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(SPuNx @ Mar 11 2010, 12:36 AM)
I'm an end result of government diplomat, wisma putra. biggrin.gif
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what does that mean?
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post Mar 11 2010, 03:49 PM

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neuroone, the posting in the relevant ministries will only be decided after evaluating us in the induction or its alredi decided after our interview?
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post Mar 12 2010, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(jc_23 @ Mar 10 2010, 07:49 PM)
Ya, this was my 1st interview,n ...

i've failed my interview ..
sigh ~

i have no idea what's the prob with my interview.
i was told by all of my fren, their interview took roughly 30min,
but mine, <10min.

all of them kena ask the FAQ,
8 bidang PTD, apa ministry yg anda nak masuk, kenape mau jadi PTD ...

n my question were:

(1) choose a topic, any topic and present it in English.
(2) choose a topic, any topic and present it in Malay.
(3) apakah yang anda faham tentang perjanjian dua hala ..

yup . tat's all, n finished, n as a result .. i failed.
could it be at the very beginning, they oledi set to failed me?
I have no idea ..

well, nth i can do, but sincere wish to all those who have passed the interview ..
all da best ~
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Well, it's not easy to get PTD..UNLESS u were a JPA scholars. nowadays JPA recruiting their ex-scholars, including oversea engineering graduates as PTDs straight away for 2 yrs contract without having to go thru all those interview and exam n whtever frm SPA....Even most of those PTD lant. JPA are actually not really interested in M scheme......but what to do, we have no choice. Don't know y JPA doesn't just straight away offer us the scheme that's related to our expertise straight away? y PTD???? y scheme M only?? y not scheme Q, J, C, A etc????

Y always concentrate being a PTD....don't u have other aim for other scheme rather than M?? come on, have a life, gov service is not all about PTD only....y not try other scheme that's more related to your field of study?? or u alrdy sick with what u studied for 3-4 yrs and decided to waste ur effort in admin field in young age?? then y not just study "B.A degree in general knowledge" or "degree in rojak knowledge". if JPA realy wanna recruit PTD, y not just stop sponsor students to study engineering, economic science and accounting???? y not just open the offer for those intended to study degree in management???????....

while u still young, try to work in the related field to gain more field experience.....I don't alwys think fresh inexperience young administrative officer are so good and charismatic...good leaders always start from below...

This post has been edited by AhGuan: Mar 12 2010, 09:30 AM

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