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AhGuan
post Jan 28 2010, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Bizmind @ Jan 28 2010, 12:26 AM)
I am from Sabah.
I got this letter from JPA (previously I was JPA scholar) said that I need to "lapor diri" on 17 Feb 2010.
What does that mean?
Lapor diri for "kerja" or for the "exam/interview" ??
I forgot already when did I apply for this job.

Now I am working with MMCOG in Miri Sarawak.
Quite confuse what to do.
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Not lapor for exam/interview of work i think , maybe just go for a briefing and some meeting with the official to settle your documents and agreements and your posting day.

Glad to hear that some1 is in the same shoe as me....I was a JPA scholar before (graduated last year with B.Sc. Nuclear Science), and thn 1 day, suddenly i get an offer letter of the post of PTD M41 contract and have to lapor to Prime Minister's Dept ..really suprised because I didn't choose for PTD last time when filling in online SPA8i form..

But I think I'm not really interested with admin job....not my cup of tea....I'm not against government job, if i get the post as Pegawai Sains Q41 or Pegawai Sains C41 then it's ok, (pegawai kawalan trafik udara A41 also not bad ) I won't mind, but then being a PTD for 2 years seems like wasting my time, talents, knowledge and my 3 yr effort for studying for a science degree...
I think of rejecting the offer....

U knw wht, when i browse thru SPA website, I found out tht, the post PTD have 500 vacancies shocking.gif shocking.gif

see this, http://spbo.spa.gov.my/online/semak_statis...IK%20GRED%20M41

While other positions like pemelihara hutan, pegawai alam sekitar, penolong pegawai sains, penolong jurutera and penolong pegawai penyelidik have only around 4-10 vacancies....

Do we really need that much of administrator rather than researcher, scientist or any other technical official????
aihh macam mana wa punya tanah tumpah darah, peluh, kencing, berak, ludah mau maju jaya......do we need more paper and pen pusher???

http://spbo.spa.gov.my/online/index.php

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post Jan 28 2010, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(castelloz @ Jan 28 2010, 04:34 PM)
Wow! Degree in Nuclear Science. This is the 1st time i heard.
Sounds scary.. sweat.gif
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Hahaha yeahh not much people know about this course...it's only offered by UKM.
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post Jan 28 2010, 10:46 PM

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Hmm....I also not so sure from the legal point of view...but thn, thr is a red form tht required us to choose whether we accept or reject the offer and tick wht's the reason of the rejection....at least thr is still an option to reject the offer....donno, i just feel like not really interested with admin job....just afraid that if i accept the offer, i would not be allowed to resign until i get other offer of government post...2 years r damn too long for me....for tht 2 years , I can take up some short courses or work as Research Assistant while waiting for any better job offer...

haiz...y the government have to force us to do the job tht's not of our specialisation or field of study...sure, feel like my effort and commitment during my study wasted like tht....

hmm...anyone know wht's the consequence of rejecting it??

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post Jan 31 2010, 05:47 AM

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LEt's say that I reject the offer on the ground tht I'm not interested (coz thr's the choice on the form to state the reason for rejecting the offer) will I be given other offer in the future?? really confuse now....I'm just NOT INTERESTED TO BE A PTD.....

I'm not against the government job, just that i don't want to do something I don't have the potential and not related to my field of study.....................
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post Feb 3 2010, 01:51 PM

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Bizmind, T_J, and others ex-JPA scholars who received short cut PTD offer,

Where do u guys have to lapor?? so do we just need to lapor and start our national duty on that day onward??


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post Feb 3 2010, 10:54 PM

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Same as u..Auditorium Jabatan Perdana Menteri ..what about BizMind??. Actually, are we gonna start our job on that very day?? or It just a briefing on our job or anything regarding PTD n settle our documents n thn after tht we hv to come back again another day to start our work???....hmm..i think i better settle the documents la..just in case....u settled all the documents n medical check up alrdy??

even I'm totally NOT INTERESTED with tht job AT ALL....I'll jst prepare.....
I did apply the post of Contract science officer at Atomic Energy Licensing Board and contract Research Assistant at UKM n Malaysia Nuclear Agency...don't knw if they allow me to reject the PTD offer for other contract government post..n now, still hv't sure i get the jobs i applied or not...so, play safe, just sacrifice my 2 yrs of my youth serving the government as a paper pushers for ministers n politicians than risked being black listed or fined..
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post Feb 3 2010, 11:16 PM

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Not yet.....but i have the feeling that we can't reject the offer..coz rejecting the offer means refuse to serve the gov...even they force us to take any job tht's not of our own interest...most ppl also said that...If i know this earlier I would have not accepted JPA scholarship offer....haiz
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post Feb 4 2010, 12:05 AM

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yeahh..sure that day will b a huge gathering of short cut PTD with government rejected degree ... haha
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post Feb 7 2010, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(Bizmind @ Feb 6 2010, 02:32 PM)
I received this package from JPA about this offer.
Tawaran PTD (Kontrak)

I contacted them appealing to reject the offer. But they come back to me
and said I MUST go and "lapor diri". So I just confirm to them that I am
coming. Just telephone and give my name and Identification Number.

So now I am waiting for 18-Feb-2010 for the report duty day.
(weird becoz no interview and no exam sitted).

I asked them what if in the 2 years contract I failed the exam/interview?
The answered re-sit the exam/interview until pass. As long as in the 2 years duration.
So from my understanding, if I failed the 13th exam/interview, I just take the 14th exam
as long as still in the 2 years contract. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

I hope this PTD thingy can promise better future for me as now I am working in Oil&Gas consultant
company.
I feel great loss for quiting this job.
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But what to do. Government seems to need me. T_T
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There u are bizmind, hmm..sure u'll feel reluctant to leave a career in the Oil and Gas, that's a very promising career, with a very bright future!! I'm about to pursue career in those field as well....

Actually my plan was, to pursue career in NDT (nondestructive testing), alrdy took my ultrasonic testing level II course (the fee is RM6.6k) last year in august, and then, planned to take radiographic testing and radiation protection officer course after CNY. What I prefer for my carer is, either work in private NDT company or GLC as NDT technicain/NDT engineer/Radiation protection officer, or maybe as an NDT researcher/engineer/instructor in government agency like (Malaysian nuclear agency), I was quite rest assure that the gov will get me a job related to my field of study since Nuclear science is quite significant in the government sector coz we have a nuclear agency under MOSTI operating a 1MW TRIGA Reactor and Atomic Energy Licensing Board to take care of the safety and enforcement regarding radiation activity..

then out of sudden, I got the PTD offer!! erghh really ruined my plan..bikin rosak ana punyia program vmad.gif ...angin takda, ribut tak ada, tiba2 hujan.......vmad.gif ..

I did ask the person in charge what if I decline the offer coz I'm not interested and wait for other offer, they said, I'll be fined for declining the offer coz of not interested, well i felt like cry.gif

Then I ask them further what if i get other other offer of government job as research assistant , contract research officer or contract science officer when still serving as PTD (Kerahan) and they said, NO, only if i get offer with permanent post that I can resign as PTD (kerahan)...damn..feel like wanna cry.gif again..the problem now is, most people said, most of the post for science officer and research officer are contract basis now before being absorbed as permanent..so, no hope....

But then what to do, reality is very cruel, u'll never get what you want...especially if you are bonded by the government, and having a rojak degree (includes science and engineering degree). Rojak degree holders can be dumped anywhere in the gov sector, coz thr's not much need for science/engineering graduates... sad.gif .
UNLESS are a medical/dentistry/veterinary/health science or education grad..

So here I am, have been dumped in the "front line" as the PTD (kerahan)...damn..dunno y they really need so much PTD, 500 vacancy for this year...haiz.... so many "kepala" to manage the goverment rather than having someone who actually do the job???

I think I have to forget about my dream on pursing career in Nuclearscience/NDT/Radiation safety sad.gif for two years....gonna waste my youth as a white collar worker...never feel very nice to start my 1st career in the management position..anyway, if you don't like the job, just flunk ur test, interview and ur DPA course rclxms.gif .

Anyway, enjoy being government admin official, as a very glamorous, highly respected and smart looking PTD (Kerahan), the front line of gov service, no gong xi fatt chai for government official or SPRM will come hunting and questioning us tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Feb 7 2010, 03:28 PM

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Haha..in this case, the government's above me. Nothing much to do with the gov plan..they are more authorized than me...huhuhu

Well, today, I hav settled all the documents, medical check up + X-ray and getting a Magistrate to sign my surat akuan sumpah. Now just look for me lounge suit and polishing my shoes...O yeahh do I have to lapor diri on that day and start my governmental duty straight away or just a briefing, documents submitting and then we go back first and come another day??
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post Feb 7 2010, 04:39 PM

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popnyat,

I'm from kelantan....well yeah, seems like gonna be a huge gathering of LYN's short cut PTD Kerahan..hahaha rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Feb 7 2010, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(popnyat @ Feb 7 2010, 05:00 PM)
hahaha.. and also having dilemma similar to you.. spend last 7 years study architecture until now (Master prgm)..  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(techanis @ Feb 7 2010, 10:21 PM)
I asked officer who ar in charge this pengambilan PTD.. he said that we will start work on the day we lapor diri huhu.. we'll be given surat penempatan than your job begin..cry.gif
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They really desperately need a battalion of kerahan PTDs???? U mean we'll be placed in Jabatan Perdana Menteri?? wht did he said about our accomodation?? do we have to find our self or it is prepared for us??
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post Feb 8 2010, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(ismall @ Feb 8 2010, 01:51 AM)
If i not mistaken, they provide all the accommodation to all new PTD's kerahan... icon_rolleyes.gif

Isma45...dont really sad, there have a lot of people out there facing problem like u. The nearest one is ---->me cry.gif
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haha if in the army, the nation call u up for the conscription to the front line thy will have to provide u free foods, uniforms, weapons and also accomodation.... still ok they give us the conscripts "barracks".... rclxms.gif

Nvm Ismall, kita serupa....after wasting our youth for 2 years thn free lorrr....
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post Feb 8 2010, 07:40 PM

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wow wow wow....bizmind, same with u, I'm from kelantan, and not really familiar with Putra jaya. I also jiwa kacau with this offer at 1st, but then as I found so many comrade in the same situation like me then i now can rest assure that i'm not the only PTD kerahan rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

yess... tongue.gif Let's make a union!! PTD kerahan, Low Yat Net platoon

Actually accomodation also a problem for me.....

Damn la..even askar kena kerah to be posted in the front line also will be prepared with barracks, rations, weapons uniforms n other kits....haiz.....now we have to settle everything.. pening pening rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Feb 9 2010, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Bizmind @ Feb 9 2010, 04:58 PM)
No one give hp number..
zzz..
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Attention to all bakal PTD kerahan reporting this 18th Feb in Jab PM, please give ur phone number!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

boss, here's mine, 012-9880635, MSN: hoo_guan87@hotmail.com
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post Feb 9 2010, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(thestore @ Feb 9 2010, 07:10 PM)
referring to the latest pekeliling there is a phrase that mention 'The Government is not bound to appoint the Officer to a permanent
post in the public service.'  Here is the link :Penambahan Terma Dan Syarat Di Dalam Borang Perjanjian Pegawai Kontrak (Contract Of Service)  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  gud luck guys ...
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"Kerajaan tidak berkewajipan untuk melantik Pegawai ke jawatan
tetap dalam perkhidmatan awam. Apa-apa permohonan bagi maksud
pelantikan tetap perlu dibuat terus kepada Suruhanjaya atau pihak
berkuasa melantik berdasarkan syarat dan peraturan yang berkuat kuasa
sekiranya Pegawai berhasrat untuk berkhidmat dalam perkhidmatan
awam."

Just hope tht I'll be free after my 2 years of conscription..... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Feb 10 2010, 01:11 AM

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TO all PTD kerahan,

U guys going on that day or one day earlier??? Still having problem with accommodation. sad.gif

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post Feb 11 2010, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(jue137 @ Feb 10 2010, 02:38 PM)
Ah Guan, most of us will go one day earlier. For I am a non-driver, and also not familiar with Putrajaya, trying to familiarize with the city's public transport first..hehehe! Maybe you guys could stay in KL for the time being..you know, before we get posted anywhere in the malaysian continent
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I thought we gonna be posted to any dept or ministry around Putrajaya.....

hmm....I gonna arrive all the way from kelantan on 18th in the early morning, earlier ticket already sold out, won't have much time to look for apartment around there sad.gif

On that very day, I'll be lugging my luggage together with me to lapor bertugas...alamak doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

thinking of apartment now.... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post Feb 11 2010, 03:08 PM

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Hi Jue, I called Encik Abd Rahman just now and he said, JPA will assign us to any dept/ministry around Putrajaya and KL. 18th is considered as our first working day already. Regarding the accommodation, he said JPA does not provide any accommodation and we have to sort it out ourselves. He told me there are apartments nearby in Presint 9, so I think on that day, we all just go and look around there if there's any room to rent...takda bilik, stor kosong pun jadi laa ..hhaha
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QUOTE(jue137 @ Feb 12 2010, 05:41 PM)
Haha Bizmind!! Of course you are in the conversation! That includes popnyat (my faculty mates) and this other guy from landscape architecture. Lets meet up there..hehehe! I heard there are a lot from UITM..so far that I know of..popnyat, the landscape architecture guy, me and you are UTM graduates. Its okay..regardless which uni we graduated from..we are still under 1Malaysia ^^, right AhGuan? ;p
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haha yes....we are indeed 1 Malaysia regardless or race, state, courses, and university biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

O yeah there r other guys in this forum by the name of T_J and Techanis ....where are they???

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