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post Aug 27 2008, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 27 2008, 12:50 AM)
anyway, what you posted is true BUT it remains true to Google IMO. cos Google has analytics.

for search engines like Yahoo and MSN - they don't have anything to track visitor behavior as good as Google. smile.gif furthermore Google uses like few hundred variables when it comes to ranking search results.
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Dear Gold,

Yeah it's very true that it's mainly based on Google's Search Engine Criteria but if you haven't noticed that Yahoo! is using Google's Search Technology and MSN is not a big and popular search engine because there aren't that much users compare to Google and yahoo. Therefore, if you rank well in Google, you have the upper hand. As there is also no way to keep up with Google's ever changing alogorithm the best way is to keep your content real and find the right keywords to write. SEO is also important, but just keep it to the minimal and focus on your quality of the site.
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post Aug 27 2008, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(boonies @ Aug 27 2008, 02:59 AM)
Yeah it's very true that it's mainly based on Google's Search Engine Criteria but if you haven't noticed that Yahoo! is using Google's Search Technology and MSN is not a big and popular search engine because there aren't that much users compare to Google and yahoo. Therefore, if you rank well in Google, you have the upper hand.


i don't recall anything about Yahoo using Google's search technology. AFAIK Google's technology are patented. Do you have any source that I could have a read at? For all i know, they have their own algorithms.

actually la, my point is just to highlight that the monitoring of visitor is only capable to be done by Google, that also only if you have Google Analytics installed.

otherwise, traffic details are just based inside the webserver.

because not everyone know how it works. they like your post but they may draw an assumption that all engines work the same.

Ranking well in Google is good because they're THE search engine most people use now, Google replaced the word "search engine" too. smile.gif

QUOTE(boonies @ Aug 27 2008, 02:59 AM)
As there is also no way to keep up with Google's ever changing alogorithm the best way is to keep your content real and find the right keywords to write. SEO is also important, but just keep it to the minimal and focus on your quality of the site.


for me, so far I don't bother much on SEO. just the basic. I focus almost all effort on content alone. smile.gif which probably why my visitor increase is slower, mostly rely on people to spread the site.
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post Aug 27 2008, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 27 2008, 03:10 AM)
i don't recall anything about Yahoo using Google's search technology. AFAIK Google's technology are patented. Do you have any source that I could have a read at? For all i know, they have their own algorithms.
Dear Gold, yes you are correct that Google and Yahoo does use their own algorithms but they both use very similar technologies as Yahoo used Google's search engine before they acquired they own search technology in 2004 but at the present moment they are still quite identical. Take a look at this article a few years back..

http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=3314171

You are correct about Google Analytics...i might get it installed in my site one day..1 question..do you have analytics installed on all your pages?

This post has been edited by boonies: Aug 27 2008, 04:05 AM
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post Aug 27 2008, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(boonies @ Aug 27 2008, 03:53 AM)
Dear Gold, yes you are correct that Google and Yahoo does use their own algorithms but they both use very similar technologies as Yahoo used Google's search engine before they acquired they own search technology in 2004 but at the present moment they are still quite identical. Take a look at this article a few years back..

http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=3314171
ouhh technology changes a lot on 4 years leh.

thanks for the article though.

the thing is their servers are seperate and algorithm changes, and database being not related - the results sure will vary a lot. smile.gif

QUOTE(boonies @ Aug 27 2008, 03:53 AM)
You are correct about Google Analytics...i might get it installed in my site one day..1 question..do you have analytics installed on all your pages?


you haven't? oh dear, you should.

I'm sure google, having all those data, would use it for their purpose.

I'm actually surprised that despite your insightful sharing, you're not doing it yourself! biggrin.gif

Yes, i have it on ALL my pages (at least 5 blogs right now) and almost all my clients.
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post Aug 27 2008, 11:17 AM

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i tot they have a cookie that monitors users action after they make a search in their engines..gosh gonna implement it later
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cookies are limited la. if cookies so powerful, then waffor Google made Analytics? smile.gif
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post Sep 5 2008, 07:11 PM

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Well...does writing 100 hundred article help to rank my site?

Just wondering..
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post Sep 5 2008, 11:24 PM

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is free site get to be listed in google ? I just make my own site about 3-4 days ago. Does it take long to be listed ?
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post Sep 13 2008, 05:59 PM

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the 1 big thing u should always remember in your mind (after u done with the optimizing) NEVER GET YOUR WEBSITE BANNED EXPECIALLY AT GOOGLE
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what makes or website BANNED? icon_question.gif
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post Sep 14 2008, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(aindejeje @ Sep 13 2008, 05:59 PM)
what makes or website BANNED?  icon_question.gif
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If you try to stuff keywords...or make your keywords same color like your background...write nonsense or just add thousands of links..that will get you banned..and a lot of other reasons.
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post Sep 14 2008, 09:38 AM

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How to check my site keywords? Or maybe editing it?
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post Sep 23 2008, 11:12 PM

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one question, if we get caught and banned from google, how we can unban our self and reindex back?
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QUOTE(antudegil @ Sep 23 2008, 11:12 PM)
one question, if we get caught and banned from google, how we can unban our self and reindex back?
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Yes you can reindex but it do take some time depend on your case.
If your case is serious,maybe it take yrs.
Normally it will take 3 month only

This is call sandboxed by google
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post Oct 20 2008, 10:22 AM

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It's depend how long Google takes..my PR had been slapped by Google last month..I did sent them an email for reconsideration..but there is no action yet..but I understand because it's not only my letter..there are thousand or million of site that need them to reindex..

So..be patient and just wait..
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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Sep 14 2008, 09:38 AM)
How to check my site keywords? Or maybe editing it?
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u can use this to check your keyword http://www.keywordbox.com/
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:47 AM

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Weird referring site status...
how come Malaysiakini become a referring site to my stupid blog sweat.gif

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post Nov 24 2008, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(amerz @ Nov 24 2008, 07:47 AM)
Weird referring site status...
how come Malaysiakini become a referring site to my stupid blog  sweat.gif

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WOw...impressive. Did your site appear in Malaysiakini.com ?
Looks like you get a lot of traffic from Malaysiakini .
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post Nov 25 2008, 01:43 AM

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because you put malaysiakini link into your blog...then malaysiakini will look at your trackback...then they put your post link into their MKINI IN BLOGS..it also happen to me last time smile.gif

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post Nov 26 2008, 02:05 PM

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Hi, I have made a website http://www.downloadanything.50webs.com

Can someone please tell me a fast, simple and FREE way to get it listed in Google? Your help is very much appreciated, thanks. smile.gif
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QUOTE(GirlyBoy @ Nov 26 2008, 02:05 PM)
Hi, I have made a website http://www.downloadanything.50webs.com

Can someone please tell me a fast, simple and FREE way to get it listed in Google? Your help is very much appreciated, thanks.  smile.gif
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Hi GirlyBoy,

I saw your same post repeated many times in this forum...
Please STOP spamming the forum.

There are many ways you can promote your website the ethical way without spamming

TQ



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