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post Aug 24 2008, 02:56 PM

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I started this thread to share my experience and knowledge about some basic tips on how search engines value your site. As most webmasters and bloggers pay tremendous attention to Google's Pagerank, let me share some tips to work better with traffic.

To get free traffic, it's always important to know that how a search engine works. Search engines love content because people online searches for relevant content, not banners or products. They are looking for reviews, knowledge and most of all satisfaction to their searches. Ads and sales come after they are satisfied with your information that you are providing and the only way to satisfy them is to make sure you know what you are writing and making sure it pleases the audience viewing it.

When they like what you read, they will likely be more open to buy from your site because they treat you as a pro in that particular niche. So write good and provide relevant information to your visitors and you will please them. Now, by pleasing your visitors, you will also please the very thing you want to please, search engines because the search engines job is to please surfers and advertisers..not YOU.

As search engines have evolved tremendously throughout the years, they always observe and track sites with good information for their visitors. They no longer pay too much attention to your keywords (because of keyword spamming) but rather how your visitors behave when they come to your site. They also track how long do visitors stick to the site, because the longer they stay there, it shows that they are reading your content. So if your visitors come to your site and press 'back button' in 1 minute, they will define your site as unworthy or full of junk and will rank you lowly.

Get visitors to read about your site. Provide them with sufficient and good information for them to stay around and return for another visit. All these are logged by Google's alogorithm and will eventually place you on top of the list, or at least within the first top 30 pages. Why do they list you for providing good information? Simple, because Google makes money from Ads..in order for them to make money, people must click on the ads and the chances are much more higher for people that keep on returning to a site to click on an ad than just browsing through your site for a minute.

So in conclusion, want to get valued? want a pagerank? You will have to work with the search engines and not manipulate them because they know..they are worth 6 Billion USD and they have at least 500 smartest people on the planet to make sure you don't outsmart them in SEO..

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post Aug 24 2008, 03:54 PM

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I can't...my blog and site has nothing to do with increasing traffic or SEO...just want to share my research with ppl here..
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post Aug 24 2008, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(djzen @ Aug 24 2008, 06:31 PM)
boonies, do you want me to publish your work on malaysianhosts.com ?

it could help newbies that want to start websites.
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Sure djzen..this info is for everyone..share it as you please...you can include my name there if you wanna... smile.gif
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post Aug 24 2008, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Aug 24 2008, 09:06 PM)
Dont forget that there's a lot of competitors and I've learnt that the less competitors the better chances that visitors will click on your site.
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Very correct indeed gamefreak...the more competitors in your niche the harder for you to rank top in the search engines. Therefore you should choose a niche with less competition. Researching the keyword competition first before choosing a topic to focus on..


Added on August 24, 2008, 9:50 pm
QUOTE(djzen @ Aug 24 2008, 07:55 PM)
sure. you got a PM.


Added on August 24, 2008, 8:04 pmThanks a lot boonies =)

heres the link if you want to take a look:
http://malaysianhosts.com/index.php/Webmas...ch_Engines.html
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Thanks for posting my topic djzen..

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post Aug 25 2008, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 25 2008, 01:26 AM)
so how does your post help with PageRank?
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Oh, I am merely explaining that without the basic content, there is no way you can get a good pagerank because your pagerank comes from credible and high relevant pagerank sites that link to you.

Further to that, without good content and information, there is no way good sites with high pagerank that shares the similar niche with you will exchange links with u. You can list to a thousand directories but nothing beats a few good high PR related sites that links to you for reference unless you have information and content which they think is credible and respectable.

So, even with all the SEO efforts, i believe in reality, the best way to get ranked highly and obtain a good pagerank is always staying real. Write real and great information that everyone including visitors, search engines, advertisers and even sites that share the same niche with you like. Therefore you won't need to worry about getting good links and rated highly from other sites.

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post Aug 26 2008, 12:44 PM

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Yuppers keywords are very important too..you need to find the right keywords that are in demand but low supply and then write good content about it. As for blogs like your case, it's important to chase the current trend to get maximum exposure..
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post Aug 27 2008, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 27 2008, 12:50 AM)
anyway, what you posted is true BUT it remains true to Google IMO. cos Google has analytics.

for search engines like Yahoo and MSN - they don't have anything to track visitor behavior as good as Google. smile.gif furthermore Google uses like few hundred variables when it comes to ranking search results.
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Dear Gold,

Yeah it's very true that it's mainly based on Google's Search Engine Criteria but if you haven't noticed that Yahoo! is using Google's Search Technology and MSN is not a big and popular search engine because there aren't that much users compare to Google and yahoo. Therefore, if you rank well in Google, you have the upper hand. As there is also no way to keep up with Google's ever changing alogorithm the best way is to keep your content real and find the right keywords to write. SEO is also important, but just keep it to the minimal and focus on your quality of the site.
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post Aug 27 2008, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 27 2008, 03:10 AM)
i don't recall anything about Yahoo using Google's search technology. AFAIK Google's technology are patented. Do you have any source that I could have a read at? For all i know, they have their own algorithms.
Dear Gold, yes you are correct that Google and Yahoo does use their own algorithms but they both use very similar technologies as Yahoo used Google's search engine before they acquired they own search technology in 2004 but at the present moment they are still quite identical. Take a look at this article a few years back..

http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=3314171

You are correct about Google Analytics...i might get it installed in my site one day..1 question..do you have analytics installed on all your pages?

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post Aug 27 2008, 11:17 AM

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i tot they have a cookie that monitors users action after they make a search in their engines..gosh gonna implement it later
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post Sep 14 2008, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(aindejeje @ Sep 13 2008, 05:59 PM)
what makes or website BANNED?  icon_question.gif
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If you try to stuff keywords...or make your keywords same color like your background...write nonsense or just add thousands of links..that will get you banned..and a lot of other reasons.

 

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