if that the case can we odex back our custom ROM?

What I care is the customization and extra features.
The rest I won't bother much... If I am crazy for performance, I won't be with MIUI ROM.

Like you've said, Odexed is faster than Deodex but current generation phones already too fast and have no effect on whether the phone is odexed or deodexed.
So, what's the point for odex already?
Moreover, the bionic/krait optimization you mentioned is already build-in in Custom ROM. So, it'll be significant faster compared to pure stock ROM(unless, you modify it).

For the customization, original ROM is surely very limited. Custom ROM is way a lot!

FYI, Custom ROM can be odexed too. As I recall, there's an app for that.
Had done it way far during Galaxy S 1st generation. Placebo effects.

No significant performance boost or anything can be detected by human eyes or sense. It's only digital prints.
Current generation phones are too fast and too advance.
Don't bother.
But, there's an app for that.

Yes i felt the same ... that is why i sold off mine hahaha ...

Umobile user here but no problems with 3g around my area.


Is the signal at your place weak ? if 3G is on and the signal is weak, could be due to that.

S4's camera also quite big right? A little hump on the back for a better camera or a flatter back for a lousy camera, I choose the former.

Erm... Actually... Sometimes bigger lens is for a bigger sensor. When the sensor is bigger, of course a bigger lens is needed to let light in. Aperture is another thing. Sensor size should be the main factor in controlling the "size" of a "camera" on a "phone".

Nokia Pureview 808 has a 1/1.2" sensor thus it's big like a monster
Lumia 1020 has a 1/1.5" or 2/3" sensor which is smaller so the hump is also smaller. Of course they slim down and redesigned other parts too. Best to ask nokia what they did
Xperia Z1 has a 1/2.3" sensor, which is the same size as the one used in QX10. The numbers may not sound like a huge difference but this 1/2.3" sensor is actually about a quarter of the size of the 1/1.2" sensor in 808.



So... The biggest controlling factor in the size of the camera on a phone is the sensor size. The lens size and thus the "hump" due to the camera depends on the sensor size.

iPhone/One/S4 all using 1/3.2 or 1/3" sensor. Quite a lot smaller.

Other factors affecting include image stabilisation like the one in LG G2 and Lumia 1020. I'm referring to Optical Stabilisation, not software based stabilisation. Optical means there's a mechanism that compensates the sensor positioning with any movement or vibration due to our hands or body movement. S4/One/iPhone/Z1 all not equipped with this feature.

Not expert too. Just my understandings. Enjoy

EDIT: Seems like HTC One has OIS.

Did you update your Antutu score? Antutu is now on V4 with some new tests for "Multitask", "Dalvik" and some changes to the GPU test.

This post has been edited by IwanAGP: Sep 7 2013, 09:42 PM

hi all, how come our price still same? it has dropped by 100USD last week.

Isn't it RM990 now? I believe this is the dropped price?

That apply for US only

Because in Malaysia, we usually pay more compared to other countries despite our earning rate is much lower than them.

was also this price all along right?

Nope, it was around 1.2k+ iinm. I'm not too sure the before price, but I'm pretty sure RM990 is the dropped price.

nope, i checked 990 is the AP set. original price still 1150 cheapest.

Oh, AP set's price has dropped, but not the original price then.

Just got my Nexus 4 today, after scouting around a bit. Best prices I've seen for new 16GB sets:

AP set price: 990 (example Dark Devon is ordering from US, you can check out Garage sales)
Local set: 1150 (example DirectD)

I ended up getting a local set, simply because I wanted to be able to check the phone for defects when buying, and any warranty claims from LG will be simpler. DirectD really has good business, packed at 11am!!

Anyone get their Nexus 4 screen protector at Low Yat Plaza? I got a cheap one today (RM15), but i can already see it's coming off at the edges. Using a Ballistic Shell SG case, so I only need a (dry) protector for the screen. Recommendations please!

customization important to u! u use deodex rom! performance hit is negligible! not stopping you.

Have not! Been busy on another project. Will check it out later.

Battery drain faster on CM 1.2 nightly..

Well,there's nothing wrong with slippery to me,just wanna double check whether its true a not

That's why I never like Samsung products,oversized and plastic design,but for the size,they really did a good job on galaxy s4,screen on s4 is amazing too,just the plastic design I dont like

LG G2 camera gets highly rated by phonearena, beating the S4

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-C...-HTC-One_id3405

Nexus 5 no use Nikon module, use the one in LG G2 also good enough

mine is soooo hot even with 5minutes of normal 3g surfing.... using the latest JWR66Y