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Joshua_0718
post Sep 7 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 7 2013, 02:47 PM)
But you know nexus camera  cry.gif
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Nexus camera really that bad? Haha, can't wait to try it out.
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 7 2013, 01:23 PM)
I only have one complain for it,the camera is too big,other than that everything is good  rclxms.gif
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Camera is too big is a complain? It's a very big positive if the lens is big, the bigger it is, the better the camera performance can be. nod.gif

Especially with the recent rumor that this Nexus will have a Nikon branded lens.

Rumor: next Nexus 5 phone to have a Nikon camera module

and with the promise from Vic Gundotra, a high executive working in Google

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I'm excited to find out how good is this Nexus's camera performance.

It could be a fail and disappointment, but it could also completely change the opinion of people regarding camera performance on Nexus phone, and the big lens is a good sign.

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post Sep 7 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Sep 7 2013, 03:07 PM)
camera is too big is a complain? It's a very big positive if the lens is big, the bigger it is, the better the camera performance can be.  nod.gif
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Are you sure? What kind of performance you are talking about? It will be nothing like aperture etc etc.
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post Sep 7 2013, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Sep 7 2013, 03:11 PM)
Are you sure? What kind of performance you are talking about? It will be nothing like aperture etc etc.
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I'm not a camera pro, so I'm not going to pretend to be one. But basic logic tells you that the bigger the lens is the more light you can get into your sensor, hence better photos.

A quick Googling I found a few links that might help explain why bigger lens is better...

Does a bigger aperture create better photos

Does a bigger camera lens always produce a better picture?

Are bigger lens in a camera a better thing then small lens?What are the advantages of a bigger lens?
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post Sep 7 2013, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Sep 7 2013, 03:22 PM)
I'm not a camera pro, so I'm not going to pretend to be one. But basic logic tells you that the bigger the lens is the more light you can get into your sensor, hence better photos.

A quick Googling I found a few links that might help explain why bigger lens is better...

Does a bigger aperture create better photos

Does a bigger camera lens always produce a better picture?

Are bigger lens in a camera a better thing then small lens?What are the advantages of a bigger lens?
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Chill chill icon_rolleyes.gif

It is all depends on the quality of sensor and lens in the camera. Let's see during the launch. smile.gif
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post Sep 7 2013, 03:35 PM

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I am using MIUI ROM meanwhile.
It's like ages since really using MIUI for real.
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post Sep 7 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 7 2013, 03:35 PM)
I am using MIUI ROM meanwhile.
It's like ages since really using MIUI for real.
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How is it ? tried MIUI before but change it because it feels more like iOS and loss the feeling of pure Google android
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post Sep 7 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Sep 7 2013, 03:34 PM)
Chill chill  icon_rolleyes.gif

It is all depends on the quality of sensor and lens in the camera. Let's see during the launch. smile.gif
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Yup. I'm just saying it can produce better photo quality, since teckyan97 thought its a bad thing. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Sep 7 2013, 03:06 PM)
Nexus camera really that bad? Haha, can't wait to try it out.
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i wont say it bad, just... mediocre tongue.gif

by using camera360 can improve a lottle. it's like a little, except a lot laugh.gif
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just notice my avatar is still using nokia lumia avatar tongue.gif
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post Sep 7 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Sep 7 2013, 05:03 PM)
Yup. I'm just saying it can produce better photo quality, since teckyan97 thought its a bad thing. tongue.gif
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I have never said its bad,I just said I don't like it,what I meant by "you know nexus camera" is that I have experienced galaxy nexus and nexus s camera,and its not good,not the new nexus 5 which I haven't even experience yet

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QUOTE(olygopoly @ Sep 7 2013, 04:46 PM)
How is it ? tried MIUI before but change it because it feels more like iOS and loss the feeling of pure Google android
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Don't you feel bore to keep on using the same UI all over again time to time?
Pure Google experiences(STOCK ROM) = NEVER MY LIKE. I always themed my frameworks(using ROM like CyanogenMOD, AOKP, PA, etc). smile.gif
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post Sep 7 2013, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 7 2013, 06:12 PM)
Don't you feel bore to keep on using the same UI all over again time to time?
Pure Google experiences(STOCK ROM) = NEVER MY LIKE. I always themed my frameworks(using ROM like CyanogenMOD, AOKP, PA, etc).  smile.gif
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I like stock android. Can change wallpaper if I want to. Lol.

What's really get into my nerve is the fact that most custom ROM comes with deodex apk to allow customization.

With deodex apk, especially framework.jar, your phone boot slower, app load slower, all because you want easy customization.

With today's fast phone, you probably will not notice.

But I just don't like the idea of moving backward, Google invented optimized Dex (odex), but people remove it...
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 7 2013, 05:22 PM)
I have never said its bad,I just said I don't like it,what I meant by "you know nexus camera" is that I have experienced galaxy nexus and nexus s camera,and its not good,not the new nexus 5 which I haven't even experience yet
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Yup, that's why just wanted to let you know, the big lens can lead to good news.
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http://androidauthority.com/lg-d821-nexus-...oth-sig-266642/

Another variant of Nexus5. Before this, lg820. Now have lg821. Internationan variant?
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 7 2013, 06:42 PM)
I like stock android. Can change wallpaper if I want to. Lol.

What's really get into my nerve is the fact that most custom ROM comes with deodex apk to allow customization.

With deodex apk, especially framework.jar, your phone boot slower, app load slower, all because you want easy customization.

With today's fast phone, you probably will not notice.

But I just don't like the idea of moving backward, Google invented optimized Dex (odex), but people remove it...
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FYI, Custom ROMs are faster.
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 7 2013, 06:53 PM)
FYI, Custom ROMs are faster.
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for me, custom rom not significantly faster. just bug fix and little performance. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 7 2013, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 7 2013, 06:53 PM)
FYI, Custom ROMs are faster.
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Faster in other areas but still slower when loading odex compare to deodex.

The so-call faster mostly due to bionic/krait optimization. You can do that without customized ROM. I am on stock ROM, can get 25k 24k antutu score on 1.5ghz.

ps: sorry, 24k only.. err.. my point is, it's ok to use deodex ROM for customization, important to many people, but whenever u use it, bare in mind there is a tiny teeny bit of performance hit.

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 7 2013, 07:09 PM)
Faster in other areas but still slower when loading odex compare to deodex.

The so-call faster mostly due to bionic/krait optimization. You can do that without customized ROM. I am on stock ROM, can get 25k antutu score on 1.5ghz.
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QUOTE(Deani_77 @ Sep 7 2013, 07:46 PM)
With special blended kernel  tongue.gif
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ps: there is advantage for those willing to learn more about the inner working of their phone smile.gif

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