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 The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.21, D610 and D5300 kambing soon!?

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gunzerdude
post Aug 27 2013, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 27 2013, 09:16 PM)
Originally I made it black and white only and I thought its kinda bland so I brush away background colour instead leaving the camera coloured, looks better laugh.gif

Ipoh Trip, C&C welcomed biggrin.gif (1st shot not taken by me)
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More contrast! More saturation! laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif biggrin.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 27 2013, 09:22 PM)
oh ok ... now i understand why it costs so much more. I was thinking to mount a canon 70-200 f4 on it  tongue.gif
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unbranded, meike or kenko. It's still a crapload of money to dump on tubes really doh.gif

About that telephoto lens, the extension tubes won't boost the magnification as much compared to a 50mm one.

Generally, for telephoto lenses, macro or raynox filters yeild higher magnifications while 50mm primes benefit the most from extension tubes.
There are a few articles explaning the reasons behind this if you look around google.
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post Aug 27 2013, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 27 2013, 09:30 PM)
yeah i have read some articles about it, even with all tubes mounted, a 70-200 lens will still not achieve 1:1 magnification. Raynox and macro filters degrade the IQ quite much aren't they?

Top up a few more hundred and i can get a sp90 compared to extension tubes  blush.gif
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Macro filters are single element lenses, uncorrected for optical defects so yes, they do degrade IQ alot. \

But raynox filters on the other hand are multi-element filters, hence the additional cost for them.
They're pretty darn sharp for what they do, but like a 40-60mm macro lens, the working distance is almost nil when used.

A tamron SP90 is still the best starting choice if you want to do serious macro work biggrin.gif

or this if you're as into macro as I am brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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No barrel extension, VC, sharpness exceeding the older generation. Plus that massive price drop from RM2700 to RM1900 just makes the deal all the more sweeter for me. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 27 2013, 09:44 PM)
hmm... yeah, so how about getting the raynox with a 70-200? it will get higher magnification? how about the working distance as you said?

I am quite into macro recently actually, played with my friend's 100mm L, really poison.

was aiming for that lens for quite some time, but not sure the 70-200 or this one, sometimes the longer zoom and USM really helps a lot in shooting moving objects .
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A raynox with a 70-200 is more flexible, but will never reach the territory of a dedicated macro lens IMO. It all comes down to your priority la, whether macro is a serious thing to you or an occasional one.

Working distance I can't say though, never tested this combo, you should try it out in a shop or something just to be sure hmm.gif
Since you're a canon user, there's also the 100mm F/2.8 USM what. Also pretty fantastic glass for the price. Cheaper than the tamron (VC version) too I think.

The 100mm L is overkill honestly. For that price I'll be looking at sigma's 150 macro already laugh.gif

Here's an example I just took moments ago icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 27 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 27 2013, 10:49 PM)
I love macro actually, since my house has quite a lot of bugs and plants around. Now I just shoot with my 50mm inversed, can get the picture, but need to crop most of the time  cry.gif

yeah, the Canon was around 1.2k or something.

the sigma would be many people's dream macro lens LOL tongue.gif
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Well then, if you love macro, just go straight for that 100mm F/2.8 then, I'll go for that anyday if I were a canon user myself laugh.gif

Yes the 150mm is a fantastic lens alright. But for extreme macro pipu, this is the best of the best brows.gif

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Also used by malaysia's macro sifu kurt, his blog here
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Aug 28 2013, 09:57 AM)
so sorry to let you know that you can't clean foggy glass. the lens is as good as dead... sad.gif

I use FF because of wide angle... besides that, anything my FF can do, my DX can do as well
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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Aug 28 2013, 10:00 AM)
pay the extra for wide angle... biggrin.gif
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DX got this brows.gif Who say need pay more for 14mm FX equivalent wide angle?? tongue.gif

Sigma 8-16mm

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For me upgrading to FX = better ISO performance + bokehhhhhhhhh wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

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post Aug 28 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Aug 28 2013, 10:37 AM)
opps, i mean perspective control lenses (17mm and 24mm)
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Oh yeah, those can only be mounted on FF bodies doh.gif
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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 28 2013, 10:39 AM)
that's a real wide angle lens..
FX can have a wide angle cheap prime, get the 11-16 tokina f2.8.. (shoot at 16mm no vignette..)  thumbup.gif  bt dno sharpness
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Just get a samyang 14mm can already la. Sharper too icon_rolleyes.gif

silverfire is using that happily until now LOL whistling.gif
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Aug 28 2013, 10:44 AM)
hahaa no lah. you can still mount it on DX camera bodies but i don't see the point.
24mm is perfect for me on FF and sometimes when i am in a really small space, i have no choice but to use the 17mm. i don't quite like the distortion of the 17mm but sometimes, i have no choice.

my friend lagi geng, mount the 17mm on a medium format sensor
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I thought the tilt shift base of these lenses are too big to be mounted on DX cams because of the flash housing getting in the way?? hmm.gif hmm.gif

Then again I've never tried mounting one myself also biggrin.gif

shocking.gif 17mm on medium format, won't vignette meh?
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 28 2013, 10:47 AM)
jz in case those upgrade from dx to fx..can still continue using it lo..haha
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Haha true, myself thinking of that too since I have one atm laugh.gif

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 28 2013, 10:48 AM)
Corrected laugh.gif
You seriously need to eat more sifu, too thin  laugh.gif
So I was just wondering, what's the cheapest wide angle lens for a FF body worth considering ya?  tongue.gif
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Going to gym lah atm, getting there flex.gif

nehh, 14mm samyang. RM900 and 90% of the 14-24mm nikkor I dare say when it comes to sharpness.
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 28 2013, 10:54 AM)
Wooo, not bad the price haha, thanks mate.. Will keep that in mind for later  notworthy.gif
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Keep in mind that the front of this lens cannot mount filters at all yah. brows.gif

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 28 2013, 10:55 AM)
manual focus?
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Yes manual focus, shouldn't be a problem ls since DOF is huge anyway. Small margin of error when focusing only. thumbup.gif

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post Aug 28 2013, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 28 2013, 03:49 PM)
who will drop thousands ringgit camera on floor like nothing  whistling.gif

sakit yo if drop
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If drop, become like this laugh.gif

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Oh ya, this is a 400mm F/2.8 btw thumbup.gif

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post Aug 28 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 28 2013, 04:38 PM)
o.O the samyang is that cheap? I thought it is around 1.2-1.3k?
Eh I thought it still can be fixed? just that it is harder right?

http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/3...tyle-distortion
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He bought the Sigma 35mm and Samyang at the same time so it's discounted from 1100 to 900 bucks biggrin.gif

The distortion is wavy in nature but can be corrected using lens profiles lah. nod.gif

http://www.davidkinghamphotography.com/blo...amyang-14mm-2-8

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post Aug 28 2013, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 28 2013, 05:48 PM)
Great photos as usual bro notworthy.gif
I cannot see the distortion also LOL  tongue.gif
Looks pretty awesome to me, skills more important la I suppose~

Love the 3rd shot haha, ducky selfie shot in action  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Aug 28 2013, 06:09 PM)
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Nice photos bro... The distortion is acceptable for me... laugh.gif
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The distortion only matters if you're shooting certain subjects la. Otherwise most of the time it's not noticeable anyway thumbup.gif
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post Aug 28 2013, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Aug 28 2013, 06:31 PM)
Check description on AE version

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The lens is equipped with an electronic system allowing to fully control of exposure parameters from the camera level and use iTTL flash system the easy way. Owing to detailed information on available apertures, focal length and focus, shooting with Samyang AE 14 mm f/2,8 ED AS IF UMC is easier than ever before.
Basically the AE version has a chip that sends EXIF data to the body and also allows control of the aperture from the body as well.

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post Aug 29 2013, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Aug 29 2013, 05:46 PM)
Same here bro... Sometimes really annoying especially does with duck face.... doh.gif
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post Aug 29 2013, 06:05 PM

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Dilemma, which one to get?? hmm.gif doh.gif hmm.gif doh.gif

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RM700 VS RM1400


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post Aug 29 2013, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 29 2013, 06:05 PM)
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Sigmafag bias punya laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 29 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 29 2013, 06:09 PM)
Actually the Nikon 1.8G very sharp liao. Much sharper than the 50 1.8G. AF speed also very fast and accurate.
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Yeap, cheaper too. But you also know the sigma-factor of owning an Art series lens yourself lah laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 29 2013, 06:15 PM)
Cheap no good, good no cheap LOL  laugh.gif
I think the wider aperture capability is worth it, especially if you don't already have one.
Some more afterwards if you really do get the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8, wouldn't it "overlap"?
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Both are awesome lenses la, I memang confuse myself sometimes. At times I want a 18-35 1.8A, then suddenly I feel like gathering a set of 1.4 primes instead.

Haih, my GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) getting more and more serious d doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Aug 30 2013, 10:06 PM)
It's been raining here now and then. So, I have little chance to get outside. Sometimes it just light rain but having an entry level camera without weather seal is not ideal for this.

So, I checked my old RAW libraries for undeveloped ones of which are failed captures for me and try to develop it further.

Found one picture that can be recovered though it is not that good, but I'm just bored to just sitting here finishing my assignments. tongue.gif
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I think the foreground element is placed wrongly la. Should alter the perspective abit.

QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 30 2013, 11:15 PM)
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Night spam..
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There's not much connection between the foreground and the background. Leading lines would help. Maybe a telephoto lens to compress the perspective so that there's less of a gap between the rocks and the cityscape.

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