I'm not as bothered by the AF point placements, rather I'll be thrilled if they made it more sensitive in low light
The swivel screen is convenient, but for a semi-pro it's kind of a vulnerable point tho if the hinge isn't properly designed.

Good for you brah
We all have our preferred photography genres, just keep doing what you love

Looks more like downlight shadow to me, see how hard the shadow edges are. Usually ceiling bounce shadows are much softer than this.

More like prosumer range la.

The D300/700/800 range bodies are pro level bodies what. Fully weather sealed and all that.
The D3/4 range bodies just go one step above with their integrated vertical grips.
(Of course the difference isn't just the grips alone but just saying, the single digit series are mostly specialist tools.)

This post has been edited by gunzerdude: Sep 23 2013, 11:27 AM

Sigh, my boss is pure evil, keep tempting me to jump ship.

Not that I can't see canon's good sides, their screen especially, no matter 60D or 5DMKIII, the colors just pop compared to nikon's.
Plus the button layout is honestly superior when it comes to changing settings single handedly (My experience lah at least)

But I still like Nikon's ergonomics and material choice. Canon's rubber too damn rough and solid, although that's supposed to make it last longer.

This post has been edited by gunzerdude: Sep 23 2013, 01:59 PM

I mau sigma's F/1.4 Trinity only





This post has been edited by gunzerdude: Sep 23 2013, 02:16 PM

You've stated yourself that you've handled the MKIII a few times. So I'm sure you can see the differences if you use them side by side.

Nah, it's the characteristics of the displays themselves rather than the photos. I can program both cameras to produce similiar results when viewed on a computer. But right in camera there's a definitive difference between the displays of both brands.

Best to forget it, since they're launching the D610 in the coming two weeks just to fix that problem

If that's true then I'll have more options when I look for FX end of this year

You talking about this izzt?

A touchscreen is a moot point in a DSLR dude, think of it, one of the main reasons of purchasing one is due to that optical viewfinder+phase detection sensor combo.
Using a touchscreen to focus on a DSLR is painful at best, if you are sure that is going to be your main method of focusing, just get the NEX 5R can already.

In case I'm not clear enough, using the viewfinder to focus on a DSLR is much faster than using it's live view+touchscreen (if available)

This post has been edited by gunzerdude: Sep 25 2013, 10:26 PM

That really depends on how careful you think you are. Accidents can happen, but the question is how much more are you paying to cover it only.

For price reference, you can check here, usually this thread has one of the lowest prices around.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1578033

Dude, please take your time and do proper research first, don't rush into things.

Towards the end, any DSLR, no matter the brand will take good photos if you use it properly.
In camera stuff like filters, video and touchscreens are just extras that add to the price which you'll probably use for the first month and then forget about when you are more focused.

Also, asking random questions here is not going to help you if you are that confused about basic things.
The more questions you ask, the more people respond with their own preferences, and eventually you'll end up even more confused to begin with.

Go read up basic tutorials about camera operation, and then go to a store, get a feel for the brand and models that you prefer.
Whichever one feels the best to you and is within your budget, then just get that.

Good luck with your purchase

This is what I mean by overwhelming yourself

These guys here all have experience with DSLRs already.
And their advice also applies to such that prime lenses are useful, but only if you know how to use it properly

silrave You on the other hand obviously are very new to this, so just get the kit lens first, the versatility does help you out especially at this stage.

Once you are moderately acquainted with using a DSLR, then only you start thinking of other stuff.

Just make sure everything is functioning well.
All you need with the camera is just the included bag and a memory card,
The class does not matter that much for now since the one you get for free will do the job just fine.

Avoid any free tripods, throw it back to the seller and ask for a rebate.
As I said, tripods and other accessories are non-essential at this stage, worry about basic stuff first.

Oh, another thing, do not get talked into buying a filter for the lens that costs 100+
There are plenty of sources that offer the same quality for much much less.

As I've said, please read up tutorials on basic camera operation first, then you'll have an idea of what to test.

To do this, ask yourself first how much are you willing to spend, then narrow down your choice to ONLY 2 models that is within your budget. (In this case I see that you've already fixed your mind on the D5100/600D)
Read up on their features and operations, how to access what feature, and what to expect when you use them.

This will give you adequate knowledge to test out the camera for defects.

P.S.

The price of 1699 is already there in the link I gave you.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1578033

This post has been edited by gunzerdude: Sep 26 2013, 02:08 AM

Meet Dexter

I have to congratz silrav tho, 100+ thread replies because of him

If you want cheap filters, Digicolor @ Mutiara Complex has loads of them, single-coated and non coated ones. Prices are around 20 bucks each depending on size

This post has been edited by gunzerdude: Sep 29 2013, 07:42 PM