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post Aug 28 2013, 12:56 AM

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No one will reply his anyway....

Dortmund fans are tweeting #freeshinji on twitter today. Why on earth we didn't even use kagawa yet? And giggs has been involved in 2 bpl games already. He might even start against liverpool.

Wake up moyes...i believe in u. Please use kagawa too. U got other midfielders too.
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post Aug 28 2013, 01:52 AM

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I believe, if Kagawa fit, DM will surely play him. I think Kagawa can play the role Pienaar been playing at Everton under Moyes. Stay on the right, then drift inside, switch with Roo or whoever playing SS/CAM.
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QUOTE(Starscream666 @ Aug 27 2013, 10:42 PM)
sorry i think i posted this in the correct forum, those 3 are up for sale as rumoured, plus why not anyway, we are sorta lacking in midfield anyway, kagawa was bought and not utilized properly anyway, these 3 can be tested, im entitiled to my opinion(no matter how retarted it sounds) anyway so kiss it dude wink.gif
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I would pass on Benzema. He isn't better than RvP or Rooney. So he'll easily be fighting for 3rd choice striker with Welbeck and Chicharito.

As for Di Maria, he isn't a bad option if he learns to track back and help defend. Surely there are better options out there that are younger.

Ozil sure why not, he's a class act.

However, you must know that buying 2/3 of them would basically fund the Spurs as fee will go to Real who will use it to buy Bale.
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QUOTE(ayonan @ Aug 28 2013, 01:52 AM)
I believe, if Kagawa fit, DM will surely play him. I think Kagawa can play the role Pienaar been playing at Everton under Moyes. Stay on the right, then drift inside, switch with Roo or whoever playing SS/CAM.
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That's already what DM has been doing with Welbeck but on the left. Valencia remained a traditional winger although he did occasionally cut in to create space for the overlapping fullback.
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kagawa - underutilized

gigs - extremely super duper overutilized laugh.gif
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I don't think Kagawa can be considered underutilised for this season yet. Remember he was involved in the
Confed Cup, and joined the preseason tour in the very late stage. I think he is not fit enough yet where players like Welbeck and Giggs were there from the start of the tour. Plus United have like 5 big games at the start of the season. I think as the season progresses we will see more of Kagawa and less of Giggsy and Welbz. Who knows, we might see new faces there. Wait until 2nd Sept is done. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Aug 28 2013, 11:28 AM)
I don't think Kagawa can be considered underutilised for this season yet. Remember he was involved in the
Confed Cup, and joined the preseason tour in the very late stage. I think he is not fit enough yet where players like Welbeck and Giggs were there from the start of the tour. Plus United have like 5 big games at the start of the season. I think as the season progresses we will see more of Kagawa and less of Giggsy and Welbz. Who knows, we might see new faces there. Wait until 2nd Sept is done.  tongue.gif
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rclxms.gif couldnt agree more notworthy.gif game by game...strength to strength...kagawa will come in n do the job...let the transfer window close...all the player settling down...at the moment...our first 5 matches is high profile...given kagawa condition n pre-season lacks...giggsy got the nod...rooney is in the same condition as kagawa...but his influence on high capacity magnitude game...we need him...agree with laudrup on transfer window shud be shut early... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Aug 28 2013, 10:28 AM)
I don't think Kagawa can be considered underutilised for this season yet. Remember he was involved in the
Confed Cup, and joined the preseason tour in the very late stage. I think he is not fit enough yet where players like Welbeck and Giggs were there from the start of the tour. Plus United have like 5 big games at the start of the season. I think as the season progresses we will see more of Kagawa and less of Giggsy and Welbz. Who knows, we might see new faces there. Wait until 2nd Sept is done.  tongue.gif
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I gotta agree. It's still too early to predict anything yet. And yeah, the first 5 games are tough games so it's natural that Moyes goes with players he is more familiar with and who are fitter. He's doesn't know a lot of these players aside from pre season, after all. We'll see as the season progresses and I think everyone will be rotated eventually, although the size of the squad rotated might be smaller.

QUOTE(budakhijau @ Aug 28 2013, 10:39 AM)
rclxms.gif couldnt agree more notworthy.gif game by game...strength to strength...kagawa will come in n do the job...let the transfer window close...all the player settling down...at the moment...our first 5 matches is high profile...given kagawa condition n pre-season lacks...giggsy got the nod...rooney is in the same condition as kagawa...but his influence on high capacity magnitude game...we need him...agree with laudrup on transfer window shud be shut early...  thumbup.gif

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Not to mention the fact that Rooney is naturally bigger, stronger, faster and fitter than Kagawa. The genes make a lot of difference.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Aug 28 2013, 12:50 PM)
I gotta agree. It's still too early to predict anything yet. And yeah, the first 5 games are tough games so it's natural that Moyes goes with players he is more familiar with and who are fitter. He's doesn't know a lot of these players aside from pre season, after all. We'll see as the season progresses and I think everyone will be rotated eventually, although the size of the squad rotated might be smaller.
Not to mention the fact that Rooney is naturally bigger, stronger, faster and fitter than Kagawa. The genes make a lot of difference.
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er.....he looks fat this last 2 season to me..still power but i think hes unable to run tirelessly like the past 2-3 season back.....still a class act though.....and easily best man utd player against chelsea...i forsee down the road he would replace paul scholes place in the middle...coz hes got vision and good passing skills...
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Aug 28 2013, 11:50 AM)
I gotta agree. It's still too early to predict anything yet. And yeah, the first 5 games are tough games so it's natural that Moyes goes with players he is more familiar with and who are fitter. He's doesn't know a lot of these players aside from pre season, after all. We'll see as the season progresses and I think everyone will be rotated eventually, although the size of the squad rotated might be smaller.
Not to mention the fact that Rooney is naturally bigger, stronger, faster and fitter than Kagawa. The genes make a lot of difference.
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totally right.
even mou played it safe against us.
the fullbacks stayed back to protect the slower centerbacks.
flooded the midfield and played a false 9 as a striker.
we know they're desperate not to lose.

nobody really knows what moyes is capable yet since he was constraint by everton's limited funds previously thus he played it safe most of the time.
we dunno if he will switch this tactics and formation with the quality and quantity of players we have to rotate and switch -up.
so i think now everyone is learning each other and taking things safe.
once the base is secure then can do amazing stuff.

this is a different era and period from when saf joined united.
don't think moyes will be afforded the same amount of time as saf.
as moyes is inheriting a title winning team while saf had to build everything from scratch.
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Mou still experiement his team with right formation after blank period from BPL for few years, a lot of things have changed since he left last time.

as for United, Moyes is still try and error on his formation and he is slowly introduce players like Rooney, Kagawa etc to the team.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 28 2013, 11:57 AM)
er.....he looks fat this last 2 season to me..still power but i think hes unable to run tirelessly like the past 2-3 season back.....still a class act though.....and easily best man utd player against chelsea...i forsee down the road he would replace paul scholes place in the middle...coz hes got vision and good passing skills...
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fat not right word la.. yes he look leaner few season ago but he still can outrun many player out there. and he did last 90min and is everywhere in tht match up and down.
age always a factor for an athlete.. for many years before his retirement scholes also aint the same player we see on his early days. even mighty giggs hv change his style for many season now
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 28 2013, 11:57 AM)
er.....he looks fat this last 2 season to me..still power but i think hes unable to run tirelessly like the past 2-3 season back.....still a class act though.....and easily best man utd player against chelsea...i forsee down the road he would replace paul scholes place in the middle...coz hes got vision and good passing skills...
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Compared to Kagawa? tongue.gif

No matter how you look at it, Rooney has the physical advantage. Says a lot about Kagawa though, to be able to play at this level with that handicap.

QUOTE(zenix @ Aug 28 2013, 12:03 PM)
totally right.
even mou played it safe against us.
the fullbacks stayed back to protect the slower centerbacks.
flooded the midfield and played a false 9 as a striker.
we know they're desperate not to lose.

nobody really knows what moyes is capable yet since he was constraint by everton's limited funds previously thus he played it safe most of the time.
we dunno if he will switch this tactics and formation with the quality and quantity of players we have to rotate and switch -up.
so i think now everyone is learning each other and taking things safe.
once the base is secure then can do amazing stuff.

this is a different era and period from when saf joined united.
don't think moyes will be afforded the same amount of time as saf.
as moyes is inheriting a title winning team while saf had to build everything from scratch.
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Yup.

I think Moyes will play it safe a bit until later when he is more familiar with the team and even then, it depends on how well the team is doing in the league. Also, this is not Moyes' team. It's SAF's team, so there will inevitably be fringe players that Moyes wants to replace with his own choices. So these are factors that might make the squad size smaller than last season.

It is heartening though, to see youngsters like Januzaj getting their shots. I hope he is a starter for the Carling Cup.
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post Aug 28 2013, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 28 2013, 12:57 PM)
er.....he looks fat this last 2 season to me..still power but i think hes unable to run tirelessly like the past 2-3 season back.....still a class act though.....and easily best man utd player against chelsea...i forsee down the road he would replace paul scholes place in the middle...coz hes got vision and good passing skills...
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for me...those past 2 season he isnt fit enuf...due to injury niggles on/off etc...he seems not getting to be fit as he shud...cost him being drop by saf latter...NOW...at this very moment...he is leaner now according to moyes...mean he is fit...getting there...need match fitness...which u can see he is all around the pitch...he needs to be this fit to play at his normal standard best performance...if he can be fitter...anyday he is world best player...coz his desire on par with CR...see CR physical...how to keep him fit all the time...i bet u gonna be suprise if u know how much his abs crunch routine daily...not including training or fitness session...maybe rooney is not a fitness freak like CR...but when CR around...u can see his fitness can compete with CR level...u can see both of them do lightning pace counter-attack bombing forward with killing intention...they both compliment n inspire each other...if he keep his head down n shut everyone with his performance...keep fit...injury free...he will hit that height again...mind u...he is entering his prime...bring on rooney...

he may hav some scholes-que essence in him due to play n train together...but in his prime...i wanna see he partner rvp n play as a striker...maybe after his prime...he can do the giggsy...i dont wanna see his talent in front of goal go wasted...

juz my 2 sen...rooney fanboi here...

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post Aug 28 2013, 02:43 PM

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United to offer Rooney new deal: The Daily Mail reports that United will invite Rooney for contract talks this autumn if he continues to show the commitment to the club he has demonstrated since the start of the Premier League season. The paper says: "Certainly, some of Rooney’s team-mates have noticed a change in his attitude and demeanour since he returned to United action as a substitute in the opening win at Swansea 10 days ago. One senior player told friends over the weekend that Rooney 'has stopped moaning and started smiling again'."


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Rooney's tackle against Chelsea was a clear example of how tackling should be done these days. That was a perfectly executed tackle, grab the ball, pass forward and counter. How many forwards can actually execute that sort of tackle now? Not many.

Wazza is back!

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reminds me of that nike ads about roo tackling bilal during wc 2010

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