First of all, me and quovadis aren't defending Razer. I'm not very fond of Razer either, especially their headsets.
Then we have nothing to disagree on this point

Second, live with your decision. If it keeps on breaking down it will so simple as to not but Razer ever again. You ALREADY know their QC is crap. You ALREADY avoided it for years. You also know it's pricey and you've faced issues before. But you still buy it. So live with your decision to do so.
Did I say oh no, I'm gonna die because I bought a faulty unit? No. I know their QC is crap, but after so many years, after so many products, a keypad couldnt be much of a risk right? Wrong. Do I blame anyone for pointing a gun in my head to make me buy it? No. It is merely to inform even the base couldn't be made flat on razer's side.

Third, notifying is one issue. But I have problems with you straight going out accusing other as fan boys. So if I disagree several of your point, that makes me a fan boy? Don't think so. We could have easily kept this civil, try to find oUT how are we gonna fix this, see if any others have ideas on how to solve it, maybe get with distributors and see if a collective complaint can get somewhere. Civil. That's it's. But no. Opposite happened. What, just because he ask to RMA you accuse him of being daddy's boy? What was that for?
Hey, I have no problems people disagreeing with me. Other than suggestions he stated as if I couldnt complain for what I've bought. And my replies are still civil because what makes one think I should repair my own stuff that's less than a years old? Who doesnt know how to RMA within warranty period? Because only those with hard earned cash would understand the trouble of going thru RMA and what not after the premium you've paid. Civil means you and I are still typing here and not me and you standing face to face outside the forum, as a keyboard warrior as you might be.

Fourth, you think Razer gives a Shit? Baseline is cheap manufacturing cost, maximum profits. Same goes for every company.
That's why your third statement is invalid to razer. And that is why, The only way is to warn potential consumers the facts, not steps on how to DIY what shouldnt be broken in less than a year.

Fifth, we said mechanical because more often than not custom mechanical pads are solidly built. Very rarely do custom boards have failures.
be it a membrane, it could also be solidly built, but the base rubber isnt flat. it is solidly uneven. and i have no qualms ppl using what they like, but it has nothing to do with membrane in the discussion. So this point is also invalid. and I love membrane.

Sixth. No one Is defending what we bought. Quavadis was only giving suggestions. To which you claim fan boyism and shot it down.
Suggestion is one thing.

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Those double-click can be easily fixed by replace the mouse switches or you RMA it.
Just don't complain only this brand got such keypad, you buy yet you complain. doh.gif

the first line is yeah, very legit suggestion. see the second sentence? Why I cant complain? Complain is a form of warning other users, and it is only a one time event, I complained about the wobbling.

Seventh. I rest my case here. Any more of these would not solve my issues. Agree to disagree. You keyboard warriors could enjoy your..what...mechanical kb now.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Apr 22 2014, 06:19 PM

Then we have nothing to disagree on this point

Then you get what I'm saying. Razer having QC issues is agreed apon. But how you exploded about it isn't right.

Did I say oh no, I'm gonna die because I bought a faulty unit? No. I know their QC is crap, but after so many years, after so many products, a keypad couldnt be much of a risk right? Wrong. Do I blame anyone for pointing a gun in my head to make me buy it? No. It is merely to inform even the base couldn't be made flat on razer's side.

Then stick to the goddamn base issue instead of pulverising about being fan boys FFS. You know their QC is crap. Always has, always will be. So you took the risk. Risk didn't work it. Go RMA it. Magic word here is risk. There is a big possibility there will be failures. You calculated it and took the risk. So live with it. That being said, thats all quavadis meant. No need to get all angry. It would have been very different if you said "Yeah I know, I hope Razer gets their Shit together. RMAing is such a pain. Paid a premium for it.". Same message. Different tone.

Hey, I have no problems people disagreeing with me. Other than suggestions he stated as if I couldnt complain for what I've bought. And my replies are still civil because what makes one think I should repair my own stuff that's less than a years old? Who doesnt know how to RMA within warranty period? Because only those with hard earned cash would understand the trouble of going thru RMA and what not after the premium you've paid. Civil means you and I are still typing here and not me and you standing face to face outside the forum, as a keyboard warrior as you might be.

As I said above, he didn't mean it to sound as what you think it is. Of course you're allowed to complain. But civil went out the window once you made those personal attacks. Civil means being nice. You claim you have no problems disagreeing. Fine. But again my point is, WHY the personal attack. Why the fanboy jibe. Why the daddy jibe. Was that called for? Still don't get it so you? Me and quovadis bought our stuff with our own hard earned cash. We ourselves worked hard it earn our own money to buy for things. We have gone through RMAs as much as anyone else.

And Murphy's law. When Shit happens. It happens. RMA the damn thing. That's it. Small sacrifice knowing it'll get fix. You think just because you paid premium things will always work? I got people returning expensive subwoofers on a weekly basis. My mechanic friend says mercs and BMWs have extremely high problem rates. They paid a premium didn't they? All he did was asking for you to go RMA it. Plus, I can tell you right now that's all he meant.

That's why your third statement is invalid to razer. And that is why, The only way is to warn potential consumers the facts, not steps on how to DIY what shouldnt be broken in less than a year.

How is it invalid? All I'm saying is be nice. Talk to people who has the same issues. Get with the distributors. Hence a bigger collective instead of just getting Pissed over being told to RMA. Razer won't give a Shit if you complain about it yourself.

be it a membrane, it could also be solidly built, but the base rubber isnt flat. it is solidly uneven. and i have no qualms ppl using what they like, but it has nothing to do with membrane in the discussion. So this point is also invalid. and I love membrane.

This is towards your point of paying a premium. You truly want premium, get a custom mechanical one. Membrane could also be solidly built. But we are talking about Razer here aren't we? Ain't happening

Suggestion is one thing. the first line is yeah, very legit suggestion. see the second sentence? Why I cant complain? Complain is a form of warning other users, and it is only a one time event, I complained about the wobbling.

Why do you have to take it so literally? I've explained above already. He didn't mean it. Maybe his English isn't as good as yours. Maybe he didn't take your feelings ibro consideration. But really, if he did say you can't poop either would you have listened? It's not absolute.

You yourself know this won't solve any issues. My simple short sentence example would have made this thread a whole lot more conductive if youve just chill about it. I won't be saying anymore after this as well. Have a good day sir.

This post has been edited by Sentinel92: Apr 22 2014, 07:33 PM

i mean the adapter , the black thing that connects the usb to the power socket .

Erm, I myself won't recommend anything higher than the specifications provided by manufacturer, yes it will charge your mice quicker but it may also shorten the battery life quicker as well.
If you want to be sure, you can check the label at both the Razer and Samsung adapter, Power input rating: 5V 2.1A for example belong to Samsung flagship phone's adapter due to their increase in size of their battery pack thus require higher current to charge faster, normal devices usually sticks with 0.5A (PC USB2.0 current), 0.9A (USB3 current) or 1.0A (most devices current).
Anything higher may also damage the IC components inside the docking or even the mice itself, cause the docking of the mice may be using a lower current rating components (to save cost ).

damn , Razer really outdone themselves again , this means that my M950 is much better mouse than this Overprice product , and here i thought that M950 battery is not reliable (if extreme usage would be around 3 days) , really disappointed on purchasing a Razer product , anyway any idea on Steelseries ?

bro, if i may ask; by last time, do you mean compared to the previous gen Mamba?

and additional, if applicable: how long after your purchase did you notice the battery life is shorter?

I tend to disagree with you on this. If the voltage is the same then amps does not matter cause your device will only except the maximum amps it can use any excess is just buffer. Using a higher amp adapter might cause your device to be warmer but then it should not harm it. Else Ipad should have a warning that its charger should not be used to charge iphones (2A vs 1A). If voltage is different then its another issue ya.

Guys you still not getting it, Razer mouse is not designed to last more than a day (12hrs) on battery (its stated in the website and product manual). Whereas other wireless mouse can last much longer on batteries (some for years, my old microsoft mouse lasted me 2 years on energiser AAx2). Its designed to be running at full speed, full polling rate with 2 sensors (4g sensor=optical and lazer at 6400dpi) for 12hrs (Ouroboros). It even have an onboard 32bit ARM processor which I'm sure not other mouses can boost to have (Ouroboros).

That the technology behind the product as to actual usage in real world I would say for normal web browsing and Office work I can't say its any different to normal mouse. For my Ouroboros when gaming I would have to say wired is still better than wireless. When compared to normal mouse you see the difference especially in FPS games when you are sniping. Might be the polling rate (1000Hz) not sure.

But I got friends using Logitech gaming mouse who are equally satisfied. I bought the Ouroboros more for the cool design than anything else have to admit to this. My point is battery life is expected, Razer mention online and in product manual. Its not like they say 3days and only last one day then I would feel cheated.

Razer Ouroboros page

Sorry for my language, actually is my current battery life compared to new (during I bought).
At least after 3 months, I do noticed the battery life shorter a little and need more charge frequently.
I'm using this mouse more than 1year+, I guess the battery life around 60-70% compared to original.
Btw, I plugged in the cable now instead of running it wirelessly.

The thing about the battery from factory is you will notice its NiCD. This type of battery had a thing call memory. Its best to fully discharge before recharging a NiCD battery. Also this type of rechargeable battery has a very long recharge time, more than 8hrs before its fully charged. I'm also waiting for mine to die before putting some lithium batteries into mine. then recharge should be fast and no need to bother about memory effect.

Well, the effect the over-current charging is not that great for Nickel, however Li-ion will have much noticeable if it's used (over-current) every time.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article...based_batteries
Each batteries technology has its own pro and con, perhaps which is why some product uses Nickel instead of the much common Li-ion.
Conclusion, if the battery is replace-able, and one does not care much about the charge cycle, why not? Just charge it anyway, dead just buy new one...

I not a fan of Razer, but I totally admire and respect Min-Liang Tan.

His interview in China.

He speaks both English and Chinese fluently.

if can't get enough of his charisma

1 hour

The basic and most important part in Sales & Marketing.
That what's making Razer so successful, don't you all think so?
p/s: Anyway I didn't watch those videos, but I can guess what's the concept behind them.

How do you guys clean your Razer mouse without getting the rubber surface sticky permanently?!

GODAMIT RAZER !!! after a whole week of charging at the dock without even touching it and my destop shut down , the stupid thing said it has no battery ,wtf is this man RAZER ??!!!!

just wondering, if ur desktop to b shut down how the USB port goin to get electricity?

yes , i saw the LED light lid up , and i just tested using the house socket which is 240v fresh , and still no charge so means my stupid RAZER is spoil , f*** RAZER

hye guys

if any of you got faulty razer deathadder, tell me ya, wanna find sparepart

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3206663&hl=

thanks!!

Okay , bought a razer mamba and that mouse keep making my mbp to crash , anyone had experience on it ?
Currently using blackwidow + deathadder(MLG version) and nothing goes wrong , just that Razer Mamba causing it .

i highly dont recommend Razer Mamba based from my experience with it , its a very useless mouse to me , my Mamba spoiled less than half a year and i think its the battery , but anyway , like i said everytime , Razer is a shitty and overprice product . Thats that