lol are you assuming things or am I the one? My family owns a restaurant and if you do own one. You would know... Please talk about your own portfolio la.. Don't talk about the property your parents bought a decade ago. I'm not accepting others opinion? lol I'm quite sometime being in the forum and have been gaining loads of knowledge from people from different sub forum..

One thing I do know your the only one being sarcastic in every post and just can't accept the fact the property value had gone up all these years where you longer be able to afford one on your own. Once again. I don't assume things. I only talk about what had happened to me and what I do know which is a fact. I don't spread rumors and slender like you. After the GOLD guy GURU working for a large finance corporation here comes a football fanatic trying to educate others to stop buying.    I really wonder what intention you guys had in mind.

Bro, I believe you were the one that blame ONLY the UUU people feeds corruption. Of course la the UUU will take exception on that. And the point is everybody is feeding corruption. Nothing to do with property.

And yeah corruption on car purchase is worst than property. Because it so embedded in the lives of Malaysian that everybody accepts it and no one wants to do anything about it and if anybody does, people think they are weird. That is how bad corruption on car purchase.

Yup my own property 

Apologies if you're sensitive and feel that I'm sarcastic.

You're right... have bought in 2004 at that price, I don't think this level of current asking prices is sustainable.

Truth, I've just paid off the last installment for my house and this has freed me up slightly (some other commercial commitments)... Now waiting for some good buys for investment... but my opinion is... prices will drop... my opinion.

No intention, just sharing opinion... if you don't like it please ignore it, I'm not forcing you to read it...

Don't be so up tight

agreed. the problem nowadays is dat everyone jump in to buy property regardless the price. All uncle, aunties almost everybody just die hard wanna become landlord. I dun see this as a gd sign. When everyone think dat the property can make money & jump in means the market is in the other way round. I dun mean the price will drop just the market will be slow down. I dun mean investor must stop buying but i think there is need to adjust strategies accordingly.

agree...
even the market collapse, it will still depend on the area, property type and the price...
do you think the 100 or 200psf property (low cost or medium cost) market will collapse if the bubble burst?? NO, i don't think they will, as there are so many poor and lower medium class in this country who need this type of property...
i strongly believe that these 800 or 1000psf high rise condo will bear the brunt of market collapse...there are really overpriced...even at the superb premium area, i still have the same thought...do you agree with me?
in klang valley, for hot hot area, 300 - 400psf should be reasonable for landed property.
this is just my 2 cents of thought

No, no, no! I like your opinions, I, too, been long waited for the price to drop!

I, the first time property buyer, unable to get a landed at a reasonable price; I can get subsales, but it would end up the same cost I buy a new unit because of the high renovation cost nowadays. 

No, no, no! I like your opinions, I, too, been long waited for the price to drop!

I, the first time property buyer, unable to get a landed at a reasonable price; I can get subsales, but it would end up the same cost I buy a new unit because of the high renovation cost nowadays. 

lmfao.
two gentlemen fighting over you.
guess that's a first for you? kekeke.

if it's two ladies i can understand lah.

can selectt and greenstuff boss please chill it.
this is the exact same reason why the thread is going to the drains.
rise to the occasion and F&F.
move forward guys.

i would say you might pay up more renovation for the new property..
i bought my 2nd house from a seller at 275k (he bought at 200k) after 3 years. but the owner had put on the grille, plaster ceiling, kitchen cabinet, replace the wooden floor of the whole 2nd floor and staircase, aircond, down light installed...
sometimes you will find it cheaper for 2nd house as you can save from renovation. expensive of purchasing the 2nd hand house is the lawyer fee, stamp duty, loan moving cost....

common perception.

1. buying under con is cheaper than sub sale: Fact or Myth?

2. reno cost for undercon is cheaper than sub-sale: Fact or Myth?

i.e. from your quote, what is wrong with having same cost of sub sale but renovated to your whims and fancies?

No, no, no! I like your opinions, I, too, been long waited for the price to drop!

I, the first time property buyer, unable to get a landed at a reasonable price; I can get subsales, but it would end up the same cost I buy a new unit because of the high renovation cost nowadays. 

debbie, i agree to buy subsale too. by the time ur house VP, its totally bare! even a drill on the wall cost u more than repairing it. and inflation is scary, so all renovation materials will be pricer. most importantly, u saved up 3/4 years living cost by renting from others and enjoy paper gain of the said property

common perception.

1. buying under con is cheaper than sub sale: Fact or Myth?

2. reno cost for undercon is cheaper than sub-sale: Fact or Myth?

i.e. from your quote, what is wrong with having same cost of sub sale but renovated to your whims and fancies?

True that after renovation costs its the same BUT... I feel that sub-sale locations better (i.e. nearer than new developments) like damn ulu locations which people try hard to boost by say oh... LRT la, school la, this la that la... ulu is ulu... my opinion la.

Bro, I didn't blame anyone... it was a question... please refer back... thanks...

Case by case. So far what I have seen, the subsales that I like will normally take more renovation cost.
Uncle, you hve so many properties, your financial is stronger than mine. I would love to have the unit renovated to my desire but I will also need to take into considerations for furniture. Remember, I'm a first time buyer, I have nothing, right.

of course you have to find the subsale house which the renovation is suit to your preference. you can't buy a bali style house and want to make over to modern style, it will definitely cost you a lot....
one of the good of buying a subsale house is you can see the present and future development, its future potential rather than listen to what the sales guy talk of the future of the new property.
most important you can have a good sleep since the first day of paying the downpayment. if you buy a new property from an unknown, small property company, you will feel the pain...

I'm considering for properties in Rawang, Kajang and Cyberjaya now... The properties in these areas are much cheaper and reasonable.

It was a question implying the up campers are the one to be blamed.

Hey it is like me asking here.."What do the down campers want? The economic tank and the whole of Malaysia jobless. I hope not"

Chage the "down campers" to "up campers" and change the "economic" word to "corruption". That will be your sentence.