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debbieyss
post Jul 18 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jul 18 2013, 01:47 PM)
Yup my own property  biggrin.gif

Apologies if you're sensitive and feel that I'm sarcastic.

You're right... have bought in 2004 at that price, I don't think this level of current asking prices is sustainable.

Truth, I've just paid off the last installment for my house and this has freed me up slightly (some other commercial commitments)... Now waiting for some good buys for investment... but my opinion is... prices will drop... my opinion.

No intention, just sharing opinion... if you don't like it please ignore it, I'm not forcing you to read it...

Don't be so up tight

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No, no, no! I like your opinions, I, too, been long waited for the price to drop!

I, the first time property buyer, unable to get a landed at a reasonable price; I can get subsales, but it would end up the same cost I buy a new unit because of the high renovation cost nowadays. sad.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(tnchsg @ Jul 18 2013, 02:05 PM)
i would say you might pay up more renovation for the new property..
i bought my 2nd house from a seller at 275k (he bought at 200k) after 3 years. but the owner had put on the grille, plaster ceiling, kitchen cabinet, replace the wooden floor of the whole 2nd floor and staircase, aircond, down light installed...
sometimes you will find it cheaper for 2nd house as you can save from renovation. expensive of purchasing the 2nd hand house is the lawyer fee, stamp duty, loan moving cost....
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Case by case. So far what I have seen, the subsales that I like will normally take more renovation cost.

QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 18 2013, 02:07 PM)
common perception.

1. buying under con is cheaper than sub sale: Fact or Myth?

2. reno cost for undercon is cheaper than sub-sale: Fact or Myth?

i.e. from your quote, what is wrong with having same cost of sub sale but renovated to your whims and fancies?
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Uncle, you hve so many properties, your financial is stronger than mine. I would love to have the unit renovated to my desire but I will also need to take into considerations for furniture. Remember, I'm a first time buyer, I have nothing, right.
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post Jul 18 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(greenstuff @ Jul 18 2013, 02:11 PM)
debbie, i agree to buy subsale too. by the time ur house VP, its totally bare! even a drill on the wall cost u more than repairing it. and inflation is scary, so all renovation materials will be pricer. most importantly, u saved up 3/4 years living cost by renting from others and enjoy paper gain of the said property
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Just to clarify, the subsale I meant is a unit that has been long staying by an owner or tenant; not subsale that you are referring to (someone bought it before it started built and sold to another buyer after the unit completely built/VP).
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post Jul 18 2013, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jul 18 2013, 02:14 PM)
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True that after renovation costs its the same BUT... I feel that sub-sale locations better (i.e. nearer than new developments) like damn ulu locations which people try hard to boost by say oh... LRT la, school la, this la that la... ulu is ulu... my opinion la.

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I'm considering for properties in Rawang, Kajang and Cyberjaya now... The properties in these areas are much cheaper and reasonable.
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post Jul 19 2013, 12:46 AM

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http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...prices-to-drop/

“The same thing applies to other cities like Singapore and Hong Kong – your first property will usually be a 700 sq ft condo and later as your income and family expands, you can go for bigger units in better locations,” says the writer of How You Can Get Rich from the Property and Stock Markets: What the Rich Invest In and How You Can Do the Same! and How You Can Become a Multi Millionaire Real Estate Investor."

I can't understand why people keep on telling the bolded part.

My understanding is very simple -

Eg.
Year 2000 - income RM2500 - 700sf condo RM500K

Year 2020 - income RM4500 - 700sf condo RM1mil

The speed of income rise can't align with property price.
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post Jul 19 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jul 19 2013, 09:22 AM)
Sigh...  yawn.gif

You mentioned cheap in your post instead of affordable... and I think Debs was meaning affordable...

600sq ft in the middle of town for 100K, if you solely base your decision on price then its affordable... see this is a typical sales guy trick... that's the selling point... so you have to read the smaller writing and in between the lines la and in this case, to also consider the surroundings, condition of the place, remaining tenure, refurbishment work/ cost required, etc, etc... Once you put all that in then you rethink whether its affordable or not...

Please try harder next time... don't even have to be cunning la... you're a walk in the park

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post Jul 19 2013, 02:48 PM

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I just wonder should I opt for aution units instead. The price is much cheaper...

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post Jul 19 2013, 11:13 PM

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Why say fennel is undercon?

What does undercon mean?

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