Seeking some opinion in regards to the purchase of a new car.
Looking in terms of maintainence and fc in the city.
New Vios VS JAZZ CKD VS City, Comparison
New Vios VS JAZZ CKD VS City, Comparison
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Jul 17 2013, 10:01 AM, updated 13y ago
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Seeking some opinion in regards to the purchase of a new car.
Looking in terms of maintainence and fc in the city. |
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Jul 17 2013, 10:25 AM
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fc and maintenance..vios should be better. but jazz ckp got vsa. i dont think vios gonna get that.
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Jul 17 2013, 11:31 AM
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jazz, with VSA
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Jul 17 2013, 12:01 PM
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lol see username already know vios fanboi. chick magnet? haha
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Jul 17 2013, 12:02 PM
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Jul 17 2013, 12:08 PM
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Buy
Vios - New outlook but a bit old tech City - More comfort IMHO but more expensive Jazz - More specs but less space All cars have its pros & cons. Take the best for you and stick with it. |
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Jul 17 2013, 12:10 PM
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Most chicks don't recognise model of cars.. only brand.
I've a chick who is a high level manager in an MNC ask me before what's the use of the pipe sticking out at the back of cars. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 17 2013, 12:08 PM) Yep, dugong is god car with godlike acceleration and godlike handling that can fly to the moon.Gals take a gander of your car will immediately cum in their pants. This post has been edited by dares: Jul 17 2013, 12:22 PM |
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Maintenance and FC? Means u concern with cost?
Vios is the most cost efficient car you can buy in Msia. U drive for 5 years maybe can re-sell for a profit even. |
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Jul 17 2013, 01:09 PM
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wah a lot vioshater, better avoid ...
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The new Vios, how much will it be roughly?
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 17 2013, 01:25 PM) ![]() Expecting rm70k+ . To those vioshater, just accept the facts please that vios is a nice car. Dont need bash vios without valid reasons. I only hate the owners who worship their car, look down on other car owners, and drives their Vios like a race car on the street. It's just a car, and not a very fast one. |
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We didn't hate vios but we hate the company just reskin the old Vios and put in new skin. Pratically no new features added and then increase the price like new car and new features.
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QUOTE(techui03 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:08 PM) Buy Hope that with the new vios out, City's price would drop 10k and I am going to buy one cos it has what new vios doesn't have. ie VSA.Vios - New outlook but a bit old tech City - More comfort IMHO but more expensive Jazz - More specs but less space All cars have its pros & cons. Take the best for you and stick with it. This year is such an exciting year, with all these new cars launching, YIPPIE!!!! This post has been edited by MGM: Jul 17 2013, 01:57 PM |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 17 2013, 01:48 PM) They worship the car also make you all butthurt? Those saga and protons guy saying how good their saga is and stable than dugong also untrue ma but they still want to bullshit. Somemore saying vios floating @ 110kmh.. Crazy and most stupid statement. I can invite a guy come here, he owns saga and dugong also. See what he says? You love your car, good for you. You have a friend who owns a Saga and a Vios, I owned a Saga and my family has a Vios which I also drive, so? Got people disagree with you, you also butthurt. Just the same way you say we butthurt. Each car got good and bad. It seems you can't accept that your beloved car has it's negative points as well. So much so I'm beginning to believe you're a Toyota salesman. We can go on and on and on and on...... This post has been edited by dares: Jul 17 2013, 02:09 PM |
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It's just a damn car. Chill guys.
By the way, I noticed that girls dig the looks of the Vios. Most don't like the looks of the Inspira or the Lancer, which they cite as ugly. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 17 2013, 02:15 PM) Ya man....When I stop my Datsun next to a Vios at a traffic light... I immediately feel inferior... no one even glance at me, all eyes on the awesome Vios. If its got a TRD bodykit... lagi best .... fuyoh! U drive to nightclub/disco.... instant face value bro! |
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 17 2013, 02:08 PM) You love your car, good for you. You non toyota salesman ah!! You have a friend who owns a Saga and a Vios, I owned a Saga and my family has a Vios which I also drive, so? Got people disagree with you, you also butthurt. Just the same way you say we butthurt. Each car got good and bad. It seems you can't accept that your beloved car has it's negative points as well. So much so I'm beginning to believe you're a Toyota salesman. We can go on and on and on and on...... Juz curious.. Drop by to say hi.. Im a proton salesman |
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i am a Proton Salesman jugak
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jul 17 2013, 01:48 PM) We didn't hate vios but we hate the company just reskin the old Vios and put in new skin. Pratically no new features added and then increase the price like new car and new features. yup..we trust the term why fix what's not broken..but it will reflect the level of tech development for asean market. |
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and i thought gals only dig bmw. a vios? lol. must be some naive jail bait lala muis.
and if a gal be your gf coz of the car you drive, i would say goodbye to such gals. i would take my fren as example, fetch chicks with his 1980s saga. only fetch the true gf with his other luxury cars at home. jokes aside, the new ckd jazz is value for money, if only it comes with paddle shifters like the CBU unit, then it is awesome. that hatchback will run round corners faster compare to that vios and city. |
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 17 2013, 03:07 PM) and i thought gals only dig bmw. a vios? lol. must be some naive jail bait lala muis. I half suspect the paddle shifters can just be added on aftermarket.... the wiring/sockets should all be there.and if a gal be your gf coz of the car you drive, i would say goodbye to such gals. i would take my fren as example, fetch chicks with his 1980s saga. only fetch the true gf with his other luxury cars at home. jokes aside, the new ckd jazz is value for money, if only it comes with paddle shifters like the CBU unit, then it is awesome. that hatchback will run round corners faster compare to that vios and city. |
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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Jul 17 2013, 03:32 PM) Last time I owned a over 100K++ car but could not get chick but after I witnessed one of my friend who owned vios got ton of hot chicks stick to him. So I changed to vios and it turns out really got hot chicks that automatically stick to me even thou I did not take the initiative to get to know them. Couldnt agree more..Vios is not just a nice car, it is a GODLIKE car. Where is the like button |
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 17 2013, 03:07 PM) and i thought gals only dig bmw. a vios? lol. must be some naive jail bait lala muis. lol, so true, must be lala mui and if a gal be your gf coz of the car you drive, i would say goodbye to such gals. i would take my fren as example, fetch chicks with his 1980s saga. only fetch the true gf with his other luxury cars at home. jokes aside, the new ckd jazz is value for money, if only it comes with paddle shifters like the CBU unit, then it is awesome. that hatchback will run round corners faster compare to that vios and city. side note:u are proton /honda / kia / hyundai sales man? This post has been edited by nzh0920: Jul 17 2013, 03:43 PM |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 09:45 AM) So all proton and korean driver also salesman of the brand? FLX have stiffer suspension than the BLM. It is overall quite a different car to drive compared to the BLM.My ex colleague also same. He saw me drive vios liao said i become more classy and everytime sure got lenglui find me. Its not one or two girls but tons of girls. so he asked me why suddenly girls alot, i told him thus he kept his blm at home only and buy a vios. Since that day, his girls increase alot and really trust me d. Last time he even said blm is stable got lotus setting but after he drove vios, he just realised proton made lousy cars. Nah let u see! This excolleague got blm and vios! ![]() But anyway, enjoy your girls! |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 09:45 AM) So all proton and korean driver also salesman of the brand? yeah in indonesia plenty of taxi drivers using vios, likely the reason why the drivers can get many chicks , anyone applying for a taxi job in Indonesia now?My ex colleague also same. He saw me drive vios liao said i become more classy and everytime sure got lenglui find me. Its not one or two girls but tons of girls. so he asked me why suddenly girls alot, i told him thus he kept his blm at home only and buy a vios. Since that day, his girls increase alot and really trust me d. Last time he even said blm is stable got lotus setting but after he drove vios, he just realised proton made lousy cars. Nah let u see! This excolleague got blm and vios! ![]() |
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i personally would pick jazz as my 2nd car rather than vios
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wakeup dude we don't hate toyoya or honda or any Japanese car . we just hate their blind and ignorant fanbois .
VIOS is chick magnet . this must be joke of the years ... This post has been edited by nagflar: Jul 18 2013, 10:11 AM |
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Vios TRD best ke bang...
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:14 AM) what fanboi? TS asking new vios, jazz, city. since i own proton and vios why i cant intro him vios? But but butwhy you so hard sale proton/korean car here since he just looking for jap cars. but when i intro him vios, u guys said im salesman mah.. so you guys also other car mfg salesman? The other thread ppl ask about Saga and Almera E coz no budget, you also go and intro Vios wor. Memang godlike, omnipresent everywhere This post has been edited by dares: Jul 18 2013, 10:17 AM |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:14 AM) what fanboi? TS asking new vios, jazz, city. since i own proton and vios why i cant intro him vios? Ya worrrrwhy you so hard sale proton/korean car here since he just looking for jap cars. but when i intro him vios, u guys said im salesman mah.. so you guys also other car mfg salesman? Proton Salesman here wat is Vios compared to Forte? long live JayCraptor btw do u kinda close with jayCraptor? or his fren Alex? |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:01 AM) taxi need comfort car to fetch passenger. dude alot of countries also using merc c-class so you are saying merc is bad car? |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:08 AM) even now govt also dont suport own national proton perdana. bought so many accord 2.4L for govt staff. dude, please to go proton showroom and ORDER a perdana now please....please INSIST on ordering one...IF you can i will to those hater, if proton are so good, why still use japanese cars? use back proton la.. if flx so good, why govt staff dont want sit flx? if underpowered, you those pro hatter can suggest perdana v6 2.0 to be fitted on flx ma. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:30 AM) because i dont want him made a wrong decision even its cheaper. dont just become of some money you regret for long term. i got myself a proton for my first car too and regret til now. still think back why last time why dont want listen to older generation save more money get japs car instead of proton. I help u summarize ..Vios compare to Forte now after proton is thrashed? Forte only add fancy fancy stuff to cheat buyer, FC also super high. you drive 1.6 forte but the FC is higher than camr 2.0. do you in many cases those accessories are easily broken and airbags dont even work in accident. the buyer trust the car, the car disappointed the buyer lol. a car is a transport which mean for your convenience. so you buy a car which always broke down? of course prefer proven engine with realibility la.. Vios 1.5 can produce good output power engine smooth and can use for very long seldom need repaired one. if yes also minor problem. FC so good can travel everywhere no problem. resale value top ranking! if we sit liao beh syok, can change anytime, you bought korean car, here broken there faulty, want change car also cannot, still need top up cash even trade in your korean cars. Conclusion .. Vios Bestest .. Look no other car |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:51 AM) i rmbed a case where the driver with vios fly up. the driver and passenger can walk out safely and even captured their vios. if this happen on proton, sure masuk EMERGENCY ROOM. BUT... Savvy is tough too.. the rest can balik kampung.. ![]() couldnt agree more you can even "check in" FB with the photo you took after you get out from the car |
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 18 2013, 09:57 AM) yeah in indonesia plenty of taxi drivers using vios, likely the reason why the drivers can get many chicks , anyone applying for a taxi job in Indonesia now? +1I show u photos of me being in indonesia right... everytime I go there I feel so syiok... can sit in vios taxi really feel the luxury! |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 11:01 AM) yes.. savvy is the only good chasis in proton, the rest all tipu karut. kononnya good chasis + superior legend lotus handling tapi korner terbabas masuk tandas awam. when you dont like a car you can even do thisyes. this guy. if proton(other than savvy) kena like this, sure "ee Oh ee Oh coming" |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 17 2013, 11:57 AM) New vios! Engine proven drink less and work harder. Design wise, chick magnet. Park new jazz and city beside this new model you will see how handsome is new vios already. Vios macam grumpy cat jer muka dia |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:34 AM) then take inSpariah or FLX la. why jap cars? or you mean high volume order in proton, they need urgently so must get jap cars first? inspira and FLX are not the D segment cars which replaces the perdana la dude... I also wonder why govt didnt choose vios J instead of perdana or accord, you have any answers? |
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 18 2013, 11:47 AM) inspira and FLX are not the D segment cars which replaces the perdana la dude... Harlow!I also wonder why govt didnt choose vios J instead of perdana or accord, you have any answers? If govt buy Vios for their top level officials.... PKR sure complain why govt spend so much $$ on high-end Luxury cars lah! Also... if these govt officials suddenly become chick magnets and get loads of mongolian gfs.... how lah... sure got alot of problem! |
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vios langsi wooo..love to cucuk2. meet some of them at karak-genting sempah-gombak with bodykits, lowered (tuned suspension?) & decals. but...sorry. you are no match to my standard potong satria neo. u take the corner like makcik la vios.
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Vios errrr basically all toyota cant take corner laa (with stock) sure buang... it is a comfortable car tune for soft and bouncy
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jul 18 2013, 01:14 PM) Vios errrr basically all toyota cant take corner laa (with stock) sure buang... it is a comfortable car tune for soft and bouncy Myvi consider Toyota family, right? Dont flame me my family have a Vios / City / Insight / Kancil and lai lat.. I mean hilux.... I drive stock Myvi up Genting no matter how hard push also 28 mins from toll to top Stock City VTEC CVT easily 20 mins kaotim |
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UMW own perodua... so yah.... but MYVI 1.5 manual is very powderfull... stopping is another matter
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 01:28 PM) D segment car? Dont realised perdana is D segment. ok classification are based on your FEEL now For noob reference http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_classification Never feel pardana is on par with D segment car! If you are comparing CC, inspira got 2.0 too. one guy uses smell and we have another uses FEEL...nice.. am I right to assume your vios is under G segment? Godlike Segment based on your FEEL?? This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Jul 18 2013, 02:28 PM |
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 18 2013, 12:19 PM) Harlow! +1If govt buy Vios for their top level officials.... PKR sure complain why govt spend so much $$ on high-end Luxury cars lah! Also... if these govt officials suddenly become chick magnets and get loads of mongolian gfs.... how lah... sure got alot of problem! I dun have gfs .. |
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 18 2013, 02:26 PM) ok classification are based on your FEEL now Wiki Protonone guy uses smell and we have another uses FEEL...nice.. am I right to assume your vios is under G segment? Godlike Segment based on your FEEL?? Under vehicle line up .... How dare proton put perdana in D segment !!! |
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so assuming i buy 3 vios, so i'll become 3x chick magnet?
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 18 2013, 02:31 PM) Perdana is D segment laaa not wrong..... |
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Perdana is a badge engineered Mitsubishi Eterna. Go find out which segment the Eterna belongs to.
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I have a vios as far as I know chicks dont cum
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:29 PM) Harlow?? A car is "A car", a D-Segment car is a "D-Segment" car, what is there to argue, THINK or FEEL or even SMELL to determine a D-Segment? Dont try to be a keyboard warrior please... |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:39 PM) proton is D segment under classifcation proton only. No other country believe this as proton quality is damn rubbish one. vios could be top D segment car if it was made by proton. proton what also can bullshit one, every datasheet all fake, confirm better than actual data one. Wow, now you claim your vios can be a D-Segment now? |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:39 PM) proton is D segment under classifcation proton only. No other country believe this as proton quality is damn rubbish one. vios could be top D segment car if it was made by proton. proton what also can bullshit one, every datasheet all fake, confirm better than actual data one. Lol dunno you're ignoring my posts or what.Already told you the Perdana is a rebadged 7th gen Mitubishi Eterna, which is classified a mid-sized sedan aka D-segment. Go do your research before talk kok here la. whats next? it is Proton who classified the Mitsu Eterna as D-seg? no other country believe? This post has been edited by dares: Jul 18 2013, 03:44 PM |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:41 PM) buthurt gonna buthurt, no other words then call ppl keyboard warrior.. you dont have other better words? Sorry to interupt ..if i am keyboard warrior, you are ??? Do u know what does SEGMENT mean in the first place ? its not The Class of the car its not The luxury of the car .. its the SIZE OF THE CAR ... |
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 18 2013, 03:42 PM) Lol dunno you're ignoring my posts or what. Dhey . ppl no wrong la .. HIS defination of Segment with World Defination of Segment different la..Already told you the Perdana is a rebadged 7th gen Mitubishi Eterna, which is classified a mid-sized sedan aka D-segment. Go do your research before talk kok here la. whats next? it is Proton who classified the Mitsu Eterna as D-seg? no other country believe? His one is What Luxury class.. G - Segment is for Vios ... |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:39 PM) proton is D segment under classifcation proton only. No other country believe this as proton quality is damn rubbish one. vios could be top D segment car if it was made by proton. proton what also can bullshit one, every datasheet all fake, confirm better than actual data one. Proton penipu scammer, Mitsubishi said eterna is a mid-size sedan/family car/D-segment but proton said perdana is not one. Do you know who's the worst here? Ford! Ford Mondeo is not a D-segment because of the puny 1.0l ecoboost 3 cylinder inline engine! Ptuih!!! That is how you compare car segment right? Based on displacement? |
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QUOTE(SoZa @ Jul 18 2013, 03:47 PM) Proton penipu scammer, Mitsubishi said eterna is a mid-size sedan/family car/D-segment but proton said perdana is not one. ermmDo you know who's the worst here? Ford! Ford Mondeo is not a D-segment because of the puny 1.0l ecoboost 3 cylinder inline engine! Ptuih!!! That is how you compare car segment right? Based on displacement? u have to take consideration of the Luxury level ... the chick magnet score points as well .. to define the segment of the car |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:48 PM) please la rebadged. all things are not equally to mitsubishi already. all of you butthurt ppl just can always lie to yourself. + 1 LIKE!now inspira got discount only rm60k+ ppl wouldnt spent more to get real lancer! its because its still lancer and all parts are originally from JAPAN! inspira, the suspension setting also like shit d, pass small bump also jumpy and "KROOKKK" i cant imagine why you guys like to syok sendiri, buy a proton rebadged with spare parts kroni ciplak sini sana then still dare to change emblem. if your proton so good, dont change la. sit it and enjoy it. dont always drag mitsubishi when ppl complaint your proton. sit 60k+- padahal want claim better than other car this and that, do you knows that until today proton can even make a complete car? you dont get troll by your govt la. wake up la. only small ciplak plastic part they can do la. other metal stuff and components still are not made in malaysia. bangun lah u. dares ... u paham tak ?? rebadge d .. the car size will shrink ! cannot be D segment .. paham? |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:48 PM) please la rebadged. all things are not equally to mitsubishi already. all of you butthurt ppl just can always lie to yourself. wah suddenly bash inspira pulak?? now inspira got discount only rm60k+ ppl wouldnt spent more to get real lancer! its because its still lancer and all parts are originally from JAPAN! inspira, the suspension setting also like shit d, pass small bump also jumpy and "KROOKKK" i cant imagine why you guys like to syok sendiri, buy a proton rebadged with spare parts kroni ciplak sini sana then still dare to change emblem. if your proton so good, dont change la. sit it and enjoy it. dont always drag mitsubishi when ppl complaint your proton. sit 60k+- padahal want claim better than other car this and that, do you knows that until today proton can even make a complete car? you dont get troll by your govt la. wake up la. only small ciplak plastic part they can do la. other metal stuff and components still are not made in malaysia. bangun lah u. vios also CBU from JAPAN hor?????????? |
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D-segment
D-segment (or large cars) is defined by European Commission[1] as the fourth segment in European market car classification. It approximately corresponds to Mid-size car and Entry-level luxury car segment in North America, or Large family car or Compact executive car in British English acceptation. In Europe, they are mainly offered with sedan version, for which the size is approximately between 4,400 mm (173 in) and 4,500 mm (177 in). » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « A-segment The A-segment is defined by the European Commission[1] as the first segment in the European market car classification (mini cars). A proper definition does not exists, however the current European ranges of European manufactures is limited to approx. 3,600 millimetres (11 ft 10 in) in length. It corresponds to the City Car segment in British acceptation, and partially to the Subcompact Car segment in North America (although this segment also includes Supermini which are normally bigger, up to 3,900 millimetres (12 ft 10 in) length). » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « B-segment aka Supermini Supermini (also called B-segment across Europe)[2] is a class of automobile larger than a city car but smaller than a small family car. Cars of this class have increased considerably in size over the years. The Fiat Grande Punto, launched in 2005, was the first car in this category to exceed 4 meters in length, which is why the Italian carmaker Fiat decided to call it "Grande"("Big" in Italian).[citation needed] In 2008, the best selling cars in the Czech Republic, France, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia and Slovenia were all superminis.[citation needed] Overall in 2008, of the fifteen best selling types of car in Europe, seven were superminis. Superminis are usually available in hatchback body styles. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « C-segment C-segment is car size classification defined by the European Commission[1] as the third-smallest segment (above the A-segment and B-segment) in the European market. The C-segment corresponds approximately to the Compact Car segment in North America and the Small Family Car in British English terminology. The C-segment includes only hatchback, sedan and Station Wagon configurations — as the European Commission reserves the M-segment for Multi-Purpose Cars and J-segment for Sport Utility Cars (including Off-road Vehicles), Light Commercial Vehicles, compact Sport Utility Vehicles (C-SUVs), compact Crossover Utility Vehicles (C-CUVs). As the "segment" terminology became more common in the United States, in 2012 the New York Times described the differences, saying "today's small cars actually span three main segments in the global vehicle market. The tiny A-segment cars include the Chevy Spark and Smart Fortwo. They're extremely short and very light. Slightly larger are B-segment cars like the Ford Fiesta and Chevy Sonic. The A- and B-cars are known as subcompacts. In the C-segment — typically called compacts — are the largest of the small cars. Examples include the Toyota Corolla, a perennial sales leader, as well as the Ford Focus, Chevy Cruze, Hyundai Elantra, Honda Civic and Volkswagen’s Golf and Jetta." [2] » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « SOS: for easier ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Car_classifications |
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D-segment (or large cars) is defined by European Commission[1] as the fourth segment in European market car classification. It approximately corresponds to Mid-size car and Entry-level luxury car segment in North America, or Large family car or Compact executive car in British English acceptation.
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:57 PM) vios are CKD but the quality is still much better compare to proton. Japan always care their product. Customer is always their priority! they will not simply produce a junk cars to buyer at the end all ppl go to toyota complaint them. Somebody forgot Toyota just did a global recall for their cars~~~ today TOYOTA can be first no.1 in automobile its because they are capable of this industry. malaysia proton can do what? spent money on lotus at the end get nothing better. all the while just can promote proton got engineering tuning for performance handling but but but.. that handling seems nothing better than japanese car also?? if want compare comfort, this proton lagi no need compare, go hide under mattress better. Proton handling badly? Go read all Aussie reviews, most of them praise proton chasis dynamic and suspension tuning |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:57 PM) vios are CKD but the quality is still much better compare to proton. Japan always care their product. Customer is always their priority! they will not simply produce a junk cars to buyer at the end all ppl go to toyota complaint them. this vios driver skin so thick.......drop down still want to give excuse as picking up sand... today TOYOTA can be first no.1 in automobile its because they are capable of this industry. malaysia proton can do what? spent money on lotus at the end get nothing better. all the while just can promote proton got engineering tuning for performance handling but but but.. that handling seems nothing better than japanese car also?? if want compare comfort, this proton lagi no need compare, go hide under mattress better. Ok lah, I lose lah, you are a vios driver sure correct one.... so vios under what segment please? based on your super duper luper theory that higher the segment higher the quality....VIOS under what segment please? I am trying to learn from you |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:57 PM) vios are CKD but the quality is still much better compare to proton. Japan always care their product. Customer is always their priority! they will not simply produce a junk cars to buyer at the end all ppl go to toyota complaint them. + 1000today TOYOTA can be first no.1 in automobile its because they are capable of this industry. malaysia proton can do what? spent money on lotus at the end get nothing better. all the while just can promote proton got engineering tuning for performance handling but but but.. that handling seems nothing better than japanese car also?? if want compare comfort, this proton lagi no need compare, go hide under mattress better. |
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 18 2013, 04:01 PM) this vios driver skin so thick.......drop down still want to give excuse as picking up sand... Same as 2014 Mercedes S-class, vios hard plastic > Mercedes diamomd stitch leather dashboard Ok lah, I lose lah, you are a vios driver sure correct one.... so vios under what segment please? based on your super duper luper theory that higher the segment higher the quality....VIOS under what segment please? I am trying to learn from you |
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QUOTE(SoZa @ Jul 18 2013, 04:00 PM) Somebody forgot Toyota just did a global recall for their cars~~~ Itu Proton hire or bribe those reviewers geh, how can you believe that??Proton handling badly? Go read all Aussie reviews, most of them praise proton chasis dynamic and suspension tuning Toyota recall coz they are responsible carmaker!! even though it is widely known that problematic toyota cars are 100% due to driver problem. Power windows switch might catch fire if get wet?? why you let it get wet!! bodohlah those owners. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:02 PM) oh u 2pid. i tell u then. vios is B-seg, but if it come to malaysia's level, its more than C-seg already. ok is it due to japan weather is cold its B-Segment, and when it comes to malaysia hot then the thermal expansion cause the car grow and become more than C-Segment? clear? |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:02 PM) oh u 2pid. i tell u then. vios is B-seg, but if it come to malaysia's level, its more than C-seg already. sifu.. i very 2pid on these knowledge.. please teach me in where Vios defines B-seg but in msia it became more than C-seg as u claimed?clear? through black-out magic or bolehland standard? |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:39 PM) proton is D segment under classifcation proton only. No other country believe this as proton quality is damn rubbish one. vios could be top D segment car if it was made by proton. proton what also can bullshit one, every datasheet all fake, confirm better than actual data one. Do you even know what are you talking about D segment is not about quality it is the Size of the carthe passenger cabin volumetric classified this car to be D segment car... What is a D segment car KIA K5 KIA OPTIMA (OLD ONE) Hyundai SONATA Honda Accord Toyota Camry Proton Perdana What is a C segment car Toyota Altis Toyota Corrola Honda Civic Proton Waja/Gen 2/ Persona / Inspira Hyundai Elantra Kia Spectra/Sephia Kia Forte / Cerato What is a B segment car Honda City/Jazz/Insight Toyota Vios / Belta / Vitz / Yaris Proton Saga / BLM Perodua MYVI You cant call your car (vios) a SUV even you feel like it!!! what a dush bag!!! |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:02 PM) oh u 2pid. i tell u then. vios is B-seg, but if it come to malaysia's level, its more than C-seg already. ah I see now, according to you non-national cars a segment upgrade automatically when in Malaysia...clear? dude, please remember to correct wiki about car segments yah?? |
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his vios is a SUV laaaa faint kaw kaw hahaha
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:06 PM) always aussie, brother u must be from hutan tropika. u never been to australia yet i guess. SOTHY BUSTED!!!!you think australia all using good cars? they have decent quality car also. if you never been there please ask someone who just back from australia lah. i cannot blame you. mostly those owning proton are from lower income category..but not all.. unfortunately i met one of the lower income with proton which is you. POOOR B@STARD!!!! |
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All also get dragged into it...
I think City and Vios is really too close to call with the exception of rear legroom which is in City favor (not sure about recent model since my memory still in those pre 2010 period). Prefer Vios over City for comfort, cheaper parts, and being durable whereas City has better exterior and interior (perhaps), but dislike the firmer suspension and harder seats. Too bad they get rid of the CVT cause it was nice though. This post has been edited by Darren: Jul 18 2013, 04:15 PM |
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 18 2013, 04:11 PM) you are listening to the wrong teacher la... but she really teach me hot expand and col shrink maIF you listen to viosTRD confirm you will be driving a vios TRD! then you guys said car Segment is determine by size and vios is B-segment in japan and more then C-segment if not due to thermal expansion is what cause the thing grow wor? water it like a plant? |
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 18 2013, 04:13 PM) is based on thermal expansion innova going to be a bus jor |
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 18 2013, 04:14 PM) but she really teach me hot expand and col shrink ma viosTRD says its FEELthen you guys said car Segment is determine by size and vios is B-segment in japan and more then C-segment if not due to thermal expansion is what cause the thing grow wor? water it like a plant? FEEL determines segment according to him... |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:14 PM) nah he is the one that start with D segment. in his case, what i mean its not just a size is enough but at least proton have the QUALITY of other D-segment car in market! why other D segment car so luxury feel and comfort, not plasticky.. why Proton all also suck one? because using recycle material low grade or hiring those fresh grad work in proton? couldnt agree more even cherry qq is better than protong |
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QUOTE(Darren @ Jul 18 2013, 04:11 PM) All also get dragged into it... nah . according to our viostrd master . vios is 10x time better than city. vios with proven/reliable engine , unbreakable Gearbox 4AT . now with new facelift . and most importantly vios is CHICK MAGNET !!@@I think City and Vios is really too close to call with the exception of rear legroom which is in City favor (not sure about recent model since my memory still in those pre 2010 period). Prefer Vios over City for comfort, cheaper parts, and being durable whereas City has better exterior and interior (perhaps), but dislike the firmer suspension and harder seats. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:14 PM) nah he is the one that start with D segment. in his case, what i mean its not just a size is enough but at least proton have the QUALITY of other D-segment car in market! why other D segment car so luxury feel and comfort, not plasticky.. why Proton all also suck one? because using recycle material low grade or hiring those fresh grad work in proton? now Quality determine D-segement now?? wah pandai pusing pusing earlier you say its FEEL??nah you say it earlier... QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 01:28 PM) D segment car? Dont realised perdana is D segment. This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Jul 18 2013, 04:21 PMFor noob reference http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_classification Never feel pardana is on par with D segment car! If you are comparing CC, inspira got 2.0 too. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:14 PM) nah he is the one that start with D segment. in his case, what i mean its not just a size is enough but at least proton have the QUALITY of other D-segment car in market! why other D segment car so luxury feel and comfort, not plasticky.. why Proton all also suck one? because using recycle material low grade or hiring those fresh grad work in proton? i tot car segment will only depends on a vehicle's wheelbase? since when quality also a concern? |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:18 PM) really dont have that luxury FEEL inside proton D segment while always have the luxury feel when sitting a mer c class.. why har? proton just want to make a bigger size car just to achieve D segment but for quality wise, its worst than B segment japanese cars? Segment is no on Quality mearly the size...Wake up go google!!! |
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jul 18 2013, 04:16 PM) nah . according to our viostrd master . vios is 10x time better than city. vios with proven/reliable engine , unbreakable Gearbox 4AT . now with new facelift . and most importantly vios is CHICK MAGNET !!@@ Hehehe... Toyota should be glad, not me...Im just happy that mine was fully abused for 7 years and still sold 40K. Nothing personal really. The gearbox is good (upto 110KMH) but did sound a lot louder after 7 years of abuse. I must say it felt more fun driving vios than city when you are alone. Not so much when its filled with people. |
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QUOTE(Darren @ Jul 18 2013, 04:23 PM) Hehehe... Toyota should be glad, not me... yep this is true.... Toyota vios is not bad on reliability but the technology is too old seriously 4AT.... even koreans coming with 6AT now...Im just happy that mine was fully abused for 7 years and still sold 40K. Nothing personal really. The gearbox is good (upto 110KMH) but did sound a lot louder after 7 years of abuse. I must say it felt more fun driving vios than city when you are alone. Not so much when its filled with people. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:24 PM) yes. i FEEL it. proton everywhere also can sit la. perdana alot lah.. go half cut so many ppl selling junk price.. why i cannot feel it if i have sat inside before? i cannot brain this you went to halfcut shop and feel a half-cutted perdana? yes. so i understand proton quality. the bigger size it have just to achieve D segment car. do you actually know why ppl make D segment car in the first place? are you dumb or crazy? why some ppl said drive camry for long journey is good compare to vios because camry has better comfortness. bigger space + better built quality inside. if proton just want to get D segment size but quality like 1960an then better close shop lah! |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jul 18 2013, 04:26 PM) yep this is true.... Toyota vios is not bad on reliability but the technology is too old seriously 4AT.... even koreans coming with 6AT now... Koreans?I have to say Koreans give best bang for bucks but you get really poor after sales services and crazy parts pricing. Its fine until you wreck it. Driving 2012 Sonata and I have to say, fc a bit high compared to Camry, suspension too soft and too low (scrap the bottom too often), cracked the windshield and was quoted 2.3k by Service Center, and some other annoying things as well. Of course Camry has their own share of problem but at least have real Service Center to have a manager to shout at, and not those 'Not my problem, *******' of authorised Service Center. Give n take really... it all boils down to your own experience... and the cost of the experience which dictate whether its a pleasant or hateful one. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:31 PM) Sothysaleshop mentioned GOVT staff choose Honda accord because its D segment woh? I also said proton doesnt have a perdana replacement ready for sale now, not surprising if gov opt for other brands D-segment while proton sort out their D-segment issues....If gov wanna buy NOW, how can they buy it when proton doesnt have it? I ask him why GOVT staff dun wan use flx or inspira since both have so good review from proton lovers. he said because proton dont have D segment so go for Honda aka japanese car. So govt staff only prefer a car that can be designated as D segment? if japanese cars are not good, why choose japanese cars as govt car? tak malu kah? I said liao mah. proton quality sucks, japanese car are better and reliable also much more comfort but those proton lovers just cannot accept the fact. Sifu viosTRD, Can you show me how to buy a perdana or D-segment car from Proton now please?? |
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So jealous of new car owner, i'll just stick to my old ae111. But i love my ride
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 04:31 PM) Sothysaleshop mentioned GOVT staff choose Honda accord because its D segment woh? remember who own Honda Malaysia ... DRB HicomI ask him why GOVT staff dun wan use flx or inspira since both have so good review from proton lovers. he said because proton dont have D segment so go for Honda aka japanese car. So govt staff only prefer a car that can be designated as D segment? if japanese cars are not good, why choose japanese cars as govt car? tak malu kah? I said liao mah. proton quality sucks, japanese car are better and reliable also much more comfort but those proton lovers just cannot accept the fact. Who own Proton ... DRB Hicom you know the rest |
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Y i no buy viiouuusss!!!!
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QUOTE(ironthomas @ Jul 18 2013, 04:07 PM) LOL... Inspira kena again LOLQUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 18 2013, 04:15 PM) this is friggin epic reply lor bro hahahahhathanks for the entertainment. continue. /popcorn |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:57 PM) vios are CKD but the quality is still much better compare to proton. Japan always care their product. Customer is always their priority! they will not simply produce a junk cars to buyer at the end all ppl go to toyota complaint them. +1today TOYOTA can be first no.1 in automobile its because they are capable of this industry. malaysia proton can do what? spent money on lotus at the end get nothing better. all the while just can promote proton got engineering tuning for performance handling but but but.. that handling seems nothing better than japanese car also?? if want compare comfort, this proton lagi no need compare, go hide under mattress better. VIOS CKD but assembled by japanese staff here in malaysia de!! Other car CKD is assembled by banglas... How to compare?! |
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 18 2013, 03:43 PM) Sorry to interupt .. Do u know what does SEGMENT mean in the first place ? its not The Class of the car its not The luxury of the car .. its the SIZE OF THE CAR ... QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 03:51 PM) yes why i dont know. wiki also can explain we dont now. +1just those C and D segments car normally are made better than normal. Correct! COrrect! Correct! Bigger size is normally better then normal de!! K3 u wait my car arrive... confirm bigger then your puny car, heck its bigger then Merc S600!! |
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 18 2013, 05:07 PM) +1 bigger means what? your car what segment? dont simply say until viosTRD FEEL the Quality only can give you what segment wor!!Correct! COrrect! Correct! Bigger size is normally better then normal de!! K3 u wait my car arrive... confirm bigger then your puny car, heck its bigger then Merc S600!! |
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Actually I kinda agree with ViosTRD...
You all dun simply bash him... Vios might be a B-Segment... BUT... he is driving a ViosTRD... with the added awesome bodykit... i think it will easily bump it up to a C-Segment leh! |
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u guys forgot this
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 05:25 PM) Unfortunately JayCraptor is not a Sr member here... but I understand he is very well known in AW, maybe he's a Sr member there.But dont worry about it bro, dont be discouraged by these people all butthurt your ViosTRD. Continue posting good reviews of the Vios and continue in your effort to educate these peasants on the Pros of Vios (note I didnt mention cons cause there is none). COntinue what you are doing and one of these days you will be a Sr Member and be well known/well respected member of the LYN FnF community as well bro!! |
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 18 2013, 05:05 PM) +1 Using Japanese manufactured steel, metal stamped with a Japanese made machine with a mould imported from Japan, which coincidently was made by a Japanese manufacturer, and then piece together with a Japanese worker and welded together with a machine again imported from Japan before being QC by another Japanese worker.VIOS CKD but assembled by japanese staff here in malaysia de!! Other car CKD is assembled by banglas... How to compare?! Fuh.... how Japan is that |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 18 2013, 05:34 PM) Using Japanese manufactured steel, metal stamped with a Japanese made machine with a mould imported from Japan, which coincidently was made by a Japanese manufacturer, and then piece together with a Japanese worker and welded together with a machine again imported from Japan before being QC by another Japanese worker. you forgot about the smell part Fuh.... how Japan is that |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 18 2013, 05:34 PM) Using Japanese manufactured steel, metal stamped with a Japanese made machine with a mould imported from Japan, which coincidently was made by a Japanese manufacturer, and then piece together with a Japanese worker and welded together with a machine again imported from Japan before being QC by another Japanese worker. Even the metal ore also mined from Japan!Fuh.... how Japan is that |
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u guys actually bother to feed the troll? drove my fren's vios to kota bharu, thats the most horrific driving experience i ever got. nuff said.
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Hey Hey Hey guys! What am I missing here? I just finish eating my butter chicken for buka puasa.
summoning summoning viosTRD for more educational and factually accurate information on how vios smells and feels like a c-segment car |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 17 2013, 11:57 AM) New vios! Engine proven drink less and work harder. all car with ah beng mod sure chick magnet. but if compare vios bogel with jazz bogel..jazz is better..toyota car not good looking anymore especially dugong kontot the series..Design wise, chick magnet. Park new jazz and city beside this new model you will see how handsome is new vios already. ![]() |
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Actually this new vios (the coming soon one) did one thing right they drop the center meter dash and move back to the traditional one... Damn I so hate center dash!!!
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jul 18 2013, 09:27 PM) Actually this new vios (the coming soon one) did one thing right they drop the center meter dash and move back to the traditional one... Damn I so hate center dash!!! But but...the dash looks familiar...like some kimchi car...oh oh...I know.....forte I think.....so meaning vios downgrade and being contaminated by kimchi.....omg... |
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the only difference between vios and proton saga lmst is 1.5 vs 1.3. the rest all the same to me. design is the same, plastic interior the same...maybe meter position a bit different. but for that extra 200cc you need to fork out 40k more! so if it was me to choose, i'd buy two saga different colors!
ok, to the TS, get that Jazz! 75k with VSA is very worth it. nothing in the range comes close. |
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here comes proton inspira 2! Their slogan for the car...
"Lagi laju, lagi cepat mati" |
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 18 2013, 05:53 PM) u guys actually bother to feed the troll? drove my fren's vios to kota bharu, thats the most horrific driving experience i ever got. nuff said. Reminds me of driving to singapore with my FIL... Worse ever.. Wife was asking me to drive (coz his father slow) but she know I dun like driving the dugong.. So end up riding also wan cry |
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 19 2013, 01:09 AM) Reminds me of driving to singapore with my FIL... Worse ever.. Cause that one B-Segment. Wife was asking me to drive (coz his father slow) but she know I dun like driving the dugong.. So end up riding also wan cry If he was driving the ViosTRD, then its a totally diff story, cause then you would be in a C-Segment car, more luxurious, and much better performance. I dare say its almost on par with BMW M5. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:30 AM) because i dont want him made a wrong decision even its cheaper. dont just become of some money you regret for long term. i got myself a proton for my first car too and regret til now. still think back why last time why dont want listen to older generation save more money get japs car instead of proton. seldom repair? my gf's sis dugong replace 2 wheel bearing after 2 years, each cost 900++ at scVios compare to Forte now after proton is thrashed? Forte only add fancy fancy stuff to cheat buyer, FC also super high. you drive 1.6 forte but the FC is higher than camr 2.0. do you in many cases those accessories are easily broken and airbags dont even work in accident. the buyer trust the car, the car disappointed the buyer lol. a car is a transport which mean for your convenience. so you buy a car which always broke down? of course prefer proven engine with realibility la.. Vios 1.5 can produce good output power engine smooth and can use for very long seldom need repaired one. if yes also minor problem. FC so good can travel everywhere no problem. resale value top ranking! if we sit liao beh syok, can change anytime, you bought korean car, here broken there faulty, want change car also cannot, still need top up cash even trade in your korean cars. my A fren's 1st gen vios changed ecu at sc after 3 years for 3k++, also change drive shaft at 1.3k per side at sc my B fren;s dugong aso suffered wheel bearing after 2 years, manage to get part by own but still about 800 per pc my C fren's 1st gen vios changed 2 sets of absorber within 4 years vios 1.5 produce good output power smoked by my 96' wira fc so good but cannot compare viva fc my ex5 also can travel anywhere no problem including hutan |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 08:43 AM) See the way u talking already know you blow water. 1.3L rx-7 can smoke you 1.5L veeyos?Somemore make unfair comparison. Viva 1.0 FC want compare with 1.5vios. Bike compatr with car lol Ur wira 1.5 smoke vios 1.5? Really want to try it. Make sure ur wira is stock vs stock. Auto vs auto. Manual vs manual. Dont syok sendiri bullshit and gari bola high everytime. auto also can manual also can |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 08:43 AM) See the way u talking already know you blow water. he's right.. walk the talk pls.. we wan go see see..Somemore make unfair comparison. Viva 1.0 FC want compare with 1.5vios. Bike compatr with car lol Ur wira 1.5 smoke vios 1.5? Really want to try it. Make sure ur wira is stock vs stock. Auto vs auto. Manual vs manual. Dont syok sendiri bullshit and gari bola high everytime. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 09:03 AM) Better you compare apple with apple. Dont say vvti or what concept as reason as vvti helping to boost milleage and get better fc, its even better if you can compare toyota supra with vios. Dont be another bullshitter. you even worse than me take a 3.0 turbo supra compare with a vios |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 09:03 AM) Better you compare apple with apple. Dont say vvti or what concept as reason as vvti helping to boost milleage and get better fc, its even better if you can compare toyota supra with vios. Dont be another bullshitter. compare apple with apple?? must make sure same weight? same colour? same size or not ?apple from Australia can compete with apple from USA or not? what about South Africa apple? seems like apple vs apple also have many variations too |
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 19 2013, 09:10 AM) you use abit of brain also la, diff weight dude.....find a 150kg man vs 65kg man run 100 meters and see who wins la 150kg man wins of course.... u all so butthurt for what.. go back to your imaginatory sales thread and troll the noobies lar.. 150kg man drive vios ma... |
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So now faster car = better car?
What about interior plastic quality, handling finnese, safety and NVH? This post has been edited by SoZa: Jul 19 2013, 09:17 AM |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 08:56 AM) Another bullshitter. Do your homework before crap. 1.3 rx is rotary engine which is different concept and the fuel is not same as 1.3 at all! fck u!, rotary engine use different fuel??? from where?? how malaysia owner drive it?? imported from saudi arab?? |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 09:14 AM) Wow. Really a failed kid. my reply was for your 1.5vios vs 1.6polo see who is faster....I just wanna highlight weight difference will impact the car "fastness", that example I used is ridiculous but it will highlight to you the flaw in your attempt to say vios >> polo in "fastness", get it? 2times more heavier! So you are saying polo sedan has >2000kg weight which should be correct compare to lighter vios. If with how your brain thinking, 1.5 vs 1.6, 1.6 must be have almost 300HP vs 1.5 just 110HP+ ?? |
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suppose to do comparison here... now become debate section...
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 19 2013, 09:41 AM) then u must be a chun hai, the comment u made so damn stupid, all based on your imagination like your brother jaycraptor, without a single proof t.iuzzz...fucuking la.... jaycraptor hilang jor...cr8 new account as viostrd ......their super poderful logical..e=mc2 einstien brains works the same........ |
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 19 2013, 09:46 AM) t.iuzzz...fucuking la.... jaycraptor hilang jor...cr8 new account as viostrd ......their super poderful logical..e=mc2 einstien brains works the same........ U .. LooserU cant live up with ur nickname.. If im you I give them ur login .. Create a new id.. NotSoStewpik |
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Nom Nom Nom..... pop corn!!!
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when a class B sedan weights less than 900kgs, you can guess how "safe" it will be.
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Depend laaa I believe in NCAP/ACAP/NTSHA rating for cars...
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Now i butthurt already. Should have gotten a Dugong.. Will have lotta siham sticking around.
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I think I need to drive my dugong more :\ can get free siham
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 08:43 AM) See the way u talking already know you blow water. Sorry bro, read clearly I did not.tell.my wira is 1.5 my wira 96' is 1.8 sohc mt so ur stock teerrdee can eat my petrol shit Somemore make unfair comparison. Viva 1.0 FC want compare with 1.5vios. Bike compare with car lol Ur wira 1.5 smoke vios 1.5? Really want to try it. Make sure ur wira is stock vs stock. Auto vs auto. Manual vs manual. Dont syok sendiri bullshit and garu bola high everytime. *your friends so many drive vios but u drive 96' wira no wonder you feel butthurt and cannot face reality. Dont give up dude, work harder and get yourself s better car. Poor is not guilty but bullshit is guilty. Never feel butthurt b4, all my vios.frens advise me dun buy tis car, problem kicks in after 2years This post has been edited by dreamsquall: Jul 19 2013, 10:43 AM |
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If u insist wanna try out, I dont do for free, atleast full petrol in tank on menu
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I prefer altis/ accord than to a vios. Rear seat super cramped and small.
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 09:03 AM) Better you compare apple with apple. Dont say vvti or what concept as reason as vvti helping to boost milleage and get better fc, its even better if you can compare toyota supra with vios. Dont be another bullshitter. Apple to apple!!!!!This ppl really dunno what they are talking about. Btw bro ur TRD dyno before? |
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Malaysian buy cars by looking at the outlook, features and safety and performance always come later.
if i have the money, i will choose a better safety and performance car 2nd hand car, its very affordable nowadays. reliability always relate to maintenance, if you seriously maintain your car, it can last 20 years if spare parts still available. vios and city are those car always in my rejected list, its a truly overpriced compact car, features wise couldnt catch up with korean cars, not to mention the safety and performance, its a compact car. as for newly launched ckd Jazz, a very good price, out of 3, Jazz is my choice. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 09:40 AM) Like that even worst. Grown up but thinking like a kid.. But I so regret now no buy vious... Not only I didn't buy vious, I didn't even bother to test drive it when I was looking for a car.. |
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Vios memang tak best especially duduk belakang..
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 19 2013, 10:35 AM) Sorry bro, read clearly I did not.tell.my wira is 1.5 my wira 96' is 1.8 sohc mt so ur stock teerrdee can eat my petrol shit deng.... compare 1.5 with 1.5 la.... 300cc extra sure u win la... But then veeyos, when he press the teeAreDee button Power >99999, u wont be fast enough to even eat his dust la. Never feel butthurt b4, all my vios.frens advise me dun buy tis car, problem kicks in after 2years get a veeyos better, comes with free sihamz |
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no wonder i no chick la...
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 12:33 PM) all butthurt proton owners talk without fact. always my friend wira better, my saga can win. all proton good. all toyota quality bad, my friend vios A this faulty, B that faulty, C this problem. so many problems. all your friend. if sent you to court, your father, your mother all, then you surely enjoy ur life in jail la. Bawak bertenang bang..ini bulan puasa..I cannot brain since when proton is > toyota. 2ndly if your proton so good, please la, sell 2nd or new one with higher price, why selling so cheap and give this and that. when trade in to car dealer, ppl also dont want. if want also harga timbang berat besi buruk je. in mudah or any website car dealer selling new car still put welcome trade in vios high value! never see happened to proton also. if proton is good quality or high demand, why salesman dont want leh? why all call proton as junk car? |
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Proton kena again.
viosTRD, ignore them. Btw really leh u got dyno or not? I wanna compare see whether vios J had been detuned or not.... As my friend driving honda city one told me so. |
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wah, vios so good ar, thn i wana change car lo
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 12:46 PM) they like to syok sendiri. the fact is there. why today proton quality still sucks, maybe they dont want help also. oh, proton junk car ar.. no wonder.. but i love my junk car wor... as i like ppl bash my junk car... like how to say toyota vios J rm70k, so forte come out with 80k low interest from bank and offer many many accessories and extra. they said this is good to make toyota to improve instead of J kosong. so when proton failed and making failed cars, they still want to deny, no wonder until today proton is still a junk car. If you mahathir standing in front of me, i will do the same and tell him this "proton is junk cars ever" you mean originally standard J detuned by toyota? which J he mentioned? 2013 latest? 2012 all are same la. TRD suspension setting and parts different only la. other than that extra accessories and TRD stuff. |
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I just ordered a dozen of Vios enough for a week rotation and might have some spare!
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hahahahaha... i dunno... my fren use it worst .... he magnet alll akua in his car lols
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 19 2013, 01:32 PM) oh my... at least my crap car dint magnet auntie and akua in my car... QUOTE(dares @ Jul 19 2013, 01:45 PM) You don't understand the power of Vios. Fuh ! so dam powderful ! Even menopaused aunty will spontaneously start ovulating again after they see Vios TRD. |
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 19 2013, 01:45 PM) You don't understand the power of Vios. Fuh.. that one see only already start ovulating. If touch what will happen.. ar..? Directly pregnant with twins. If sit inside dunno what will happen oh..Even menopaused aunty will spontaneously start ovulating again after they see Vios TRD. |
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Jul 19 2013, 12:25 PM) deng.... compare 1.5 with 1.5 la.... 300cc extra sure u win la... But then veeyos, when he press the teeAreDee button Power >99999, u wont be fast enough to even eat his dust la. My car tech outdated no teearedee and no free sihamzget a veeyos better, comes with free sihamz |
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me at T showroom..can't wait to book vios. thanx for the tips viosTRD. me forever alone before. now no more. look! i can smell chick now..
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My fren family was the happiest of all...... My fren drive Vios, sister drive Myvi and mom drive altis while dad using Camry. Their Grand father using Innova and grandmother using Unser..... My fren son just recently got licence and father just got him a Yaris! What a perfect family
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 19 2013, 02:33 PM) My fren family was the happiest of all...... My fren drive Vios, sister drive Myvi and mom drive altis while dad using Camry. Their Grand father using Innova and grandmother using Unser..... My fren son just recently got licence and father just got him a Yaris! What a perfect family menopaused aunty, its all around your friend and his family ~ |
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This kind of ppl memang cannot give him drive big car mia like Camry or vellfire..drive jor he also dare to flame Ferrari is a putkeymug car
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 12:33 PM) all butthurt proton owners talk without fact. always my friend wira better, my saga can win. all proton good. all toyota quality bad, my friend vios A this faulty, B that faulty, C this problem. so many problems. all your friend. if sent you to court, your father, your mother all, then you surely enjoy ur life in jail la. Salesmans know knn face wan siham ppl need tis car so they easy to sell back ma.its like u no siham no worry, get teearedee, many siham will come, eventually inside cabin also will have siham smell I cannot brain since when proton is > toyota. 2ndly if your proton so good, please la, sell 2nd or new one with higher price, why selling so cheap and give this and that. when trade in to car dealer, ppl also dont want. if want also harga timbang berat besi buruk je. in mudah or any website car dealer selling new car still put welcome trade in vios high value! never see happened to proton also. if proton is good quality or high demand, why salesman dont want leh? why all call proton as junk car? |
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guys, actually i m quite surprise why ppl bash proton owner nowadays? and why so many proton owner nowadays, i thought proton produce milo tin.
I guess those Japanese super car no longer stand as firm as before in consumer heart. MPV, does Exora a junk? Sedan, Preve a junk? compact, saga a junk? re-badge, inspira a junk? LOL |
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To be frank... Preve is actually a good car and a really good build... I was impressed driving it... there is no "Cheap" feel in a Preve' seriously...
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lol why you worship ur vios trd..my sis oso have vios trd..nothing special in it..the quality oso not so good compared to my dad cbu stream..which ady 9 years old..f***ing auto dugong trd..d3 oso cannot maitain speed on karak hi way...my sis shud have bought honda city..waste money for the cosmetics trd bodykit, leather seat etc...lucky my sis not hardcore support of her vios trd..lol
but now dont say cant compare with cbu japs yaa..bcos u know cbu japs>>ckd japs>>ckd asean japs. |
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So I own a CBU Made in Japan Honda Insight... yay I can smoke TRD vios
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 12:33 PM) all butthurt proton owners talk without fact. always my friend wira better, my saga can win. all proton good. all toyota quality bad, my friend vios A this faulty, B that faulty, C this problem. so many problems. all your friend. if sent you to court, your father, your mother all, then you surely enjoy ur life in jail la. Aint you doing the same thing by saying Proton is shit?I cannot brain since when proton is > toyota. 2ndly if your proton so good, please la, sell 2nd or new one with higher price, why selling so cheap and give this and that. when trade in to car dealer, ppl also dont want. if want also harga timbang berat besi buruk je. in mudah or any website car dealer selling new car still put welcome trade in vios high value! never see happened to proton also. if proton is good quality or high demand, why salesman dont want leh? why all call proton as junk car? Wira is indeed a truly satisfying car for most of its owner in some ways or another. The aircond and driveshaft for example never crap out on me, in the 7 years of owning it. Its just a personal preference on what you view is the most important aspect of a car should be. My 7th year vios aircond seriously need a service but does it make it suck because it had to service after 7 years as opposed to the wira which never needed to? NO! Vios also just changed CV Joint in its 7th year while Wira still maintain the original one, it sucks? NO! If you think price or brand is the better gauge than user experience, then you are just a fanboy. My vios immobilizer changed not once, twice, but 3 times due to engine off while driving. The first time I complained about it, Toyota didnt even give a shit about it. I drove back and experience a couple incident in the same day. The next day I walked into Segambut branch and ordered the manager to come out and insured my life because I dont feel secured driving it. Then only he promised to get to the bottom of it and suggest immobilizer change. Not long after, a recall was issued for all Vios owners. Does Toyota make better cars than Proton? Its yes and no, depends on your view. Just ask VW owners what they are feeling like when their so-called Continental car being towed back just because of issue with its DSG gearbox. Some will say, its too new, while some will say what shit they bought for 100k++. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 19 2013, 03:16 PM) Aint you doing the same thing by saying Proton is shit? you're talking about a BROKEN vios, must be user problem Wira is indeed a truly satisfying car for most of its owner in some ways or another. The aircond and driveshaft for example never crap out on me, in the 7 years of owning it. Its just a personal preference on what you view is the most important aspect of a car should be. My 7th year vios aircond seriously need a service but does it make it suck because it had to service after 7 years as opposed to the wira which never needed to? NO! Vios also just changed CV Joint in its 7th year while Wira still maintain the original one, it sucks? NO! If you think price or brand is the better gauge than user experience, then you are just a fanboy. My vios immobilizer changed not once, twice, but 3 times due to engine off while driving. The first time I complained about it, Toyota didnt even give a shit about it. I drove back and experience a couple incident in the same day. The next day I walked into Segambut branch and ordered the manager to come out and insured my life because I dont feel secured driving it. Then only he promised to get to the bottom of it and suggest immobilizer change. Not long after, a recall was issued for all Vios owners. Does Toyota make better cars than Proton? Its yes and no, depends on your view. Just ask VW owners what they are feeling like when their so-called Continental car being towed back just because of issue with its DSG gearbox. Some will say, its too new, while some will say what shit they bought for 100k++. |
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You guys never learn ..
you need MeToo here .. Vios TRD although not made in Japan .. but its made by japanese worker with japanese steel .. with japanese QC ... i think the factory airconditioner also import from japan one,, with food from japan for the workers.. |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jul 19 2013, 03:09 PM) To be frank... Preve is actually a good car and a really good build... I was impressed driving it... there is no "Cheap" feel in a Preve' seriously... How can preve be good?! Are you sure about that? Proton advertised preve is a C-segment, but when you sit inside, that piece of junk feels like an a-segment!Don't be fooled by Proton!!! |
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if you cant say how good you should proof how bad it was...
btw all of our Malaysian cut cost car is rubbish.... even Vios is cost down car. |
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QUOTE(SoZa @ Jul 19 2013, 03:34 PM) How can preve be good?! Are you sure about that? Proton advertised preve is a C-segment, but when you sit inside, that piece of junk feels like an a-segment! isn't segment different by the space and capacity? when i sit inside mean segment is determine by the feel of my ass? confused... Don't be fooled by Proton!!! |
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Jul 19 2013, 04:01 PM) isn't segment different by the space and capacity? when i sit inside mean segment is determine by the feel of my ass? confused... Read my siggy some cars reach Malaysia will upgrade 1 segment wan, according to "expert". This post has been edited by dares: Jul 19 2013, 04:07 PM |
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why u guys still haven't got it.. ViosTRD is trolling u guys lar.. some even got reli butthurt.. bwahaha
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Vios the ideal choice for a normal human with a perfect lifestyle. It has the looks of a semi sports car and incompatibly with its aerodynamic measurements around the body. And it would close up an average 0-60 mph in 2.0sec. For a 1.5 semi sports car this would be declared a monster in the European countries which has already been.
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I have nothing to complain on Preve rm70k ++ with turbo and etc.... not bad for the price for a play car.... well something had to start somewhere, you cant expect Vios Turbo at below 80k hahaha so far there is no Turbo cat on toyota low end yet but u can always BOT... buy J series and BOT... there u will have more fun than driving in full retard mode!
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QUOTE(yegaz @ Jul 19 2013, 05:09 PM) Vios the ideal choice for a normal human with a perfect lifestyle. It has the looks of a semi sports car and incompatibly with its aerodynamic measurements around the body. And it would close up an average 0-60 mph in 2.0sec. For a 1.5 semi sports car this would be declared a monster in the European countries which has already been. +1We need this type of comment. Unbiased yet informative. Those ppl just know how to bash. |
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 19 2013, 02:33 PM) My fren family was the happiest of all...... My fren drive Vios, sister drive Myvi and mom drive altis while dad using Camry. Their Grand father using Innova and grandmother using Unser..... My fren son just recently got licence and father just got him a Yaris! What a perfect family you forgot . the girlfriend drives Kenari with 1200w power bass . |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 06:29 PM) TS no need think or make comparison anymore. Actually with vios's capability the satria neo R3 doesn't even stand a chance to be beside vios. By looking at the performance chart between both these cars it is proven that vios has the best acceleration over satria neo R3. But by far it can deliver the rate of 0.3sens per galon with the sufficient rate of acceleration where else the neo R3 can't. And with the vvti setup on this car especially i don't see how satria neo R3 can even pull off from the toyota vios.its very obvious that VIOS is a good car. learn from me. with its TRD kits & suspension, we can win proton neo R3 anytime. |
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i was told vios can win F1 too
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Jul 19 2013, 03:07 PM) guys, actually i m quite surprise why ppl bash proton owner nowadays? and why so many proton owner nowadays, i thought proton produce milo tin. Have u tried denting a Milo tin with your hand... cannot be done. But Proton panels u can easily dent. |
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ayam a fanboi of Plotong GaGa. we often tel peepur GaGa can plonk 56 durians, seriously it doesn't(trust me I tried), even smaller size 5 bijik RM10 also kenot fit 56 bijik
- Budget, not afraid of peepur laugh at u chipjing, please go buy GaGa by all means. Peepur sei, those sei sohigh who bought Plotong aint sked of death - Branded kar, afordable price, fun to drib, get the Jazz. Despite it looks like a micro van, but the demting handling dem guding yo - Talk about pusssie magnet at cheap range, I can't think of any car other than a Vios. For no reason, chick who eyeing a networth 30k P.A guy will go for it anytime. However, if the chick got a choice, Fortek tapaued Vios. Seriously - Let's look for practical. Nisgan Alamera is not a bad choice. If you choose the IMPUL bodykitted version, front looked like a dewgong, rear looked like a teana - Hongda Shitty - I only like the old i-DSi version. Don't ask me, I also dunno why. But I heard some of those earlier 2005/2006 model CVT already started to kacau. If not for that, I think would have gotten myself a used Shitty i-DSi therefore, if your budget is around 60~80k, wanted a cheap pussey magnet, and fucking reliable car(let's not mention safety and handling), VIOS is a good choice. Look guys(probably gals if there's any), ayam not bad mouthing or trolling. Ayam a Plotong fanboi as you can see from my siggy. I kolek old junk and ayam a petrol head. If you're not into this, Plotong really isn't for you. Quote V12Kompressor: Everyday need to fix 1 p/s: I don't buy new car, that's why I choose Plotong |
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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Jul 17 2013, 03:32 PM) Last time I owned a over 100K++ car but could not get chick but after I witnessed one of my friend who owned vios got ton of hot chicks stick to him. So I changed to vios and it turns out really got hot chicks that automatically stick to me even thou I did not take the initiative to get to know them. Vios is not just a nice car, it is a GODLIKE car. |
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Lol..I raced with Vios TRD..
I win.. Driving Neo..hahaha |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 06:23 PM) When a sport car met a super car its normal. when I see a vios driver, I am sad & pray for them So its normal also ppl said proton is junk car when comparing it with sportcar. becos.... clearly they value their life as junk too...after watching the crash test... so Mr.viosTRD, how many stars did Vios get for safety again?? |
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 19 2013, 07:45 PM) when I see a vios driver, I am sad & pray for them No offense, but pls dun call ppl life/car as junk... Ppl have their liking and their choice of car... U might be rich and get a better car, but not everyone is lucky like u... Grow up pls...becos.... clearly they value their life as junk too...after watching the crash test... so Mr.viosTRD, how many stars did Vios get for safety again?? This post has been edited by nova_freak: Jul 19 2013, 07:50 PM |
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jul 19 2013, 07:50 PM) No offense, but pls dun call ppl life/car as junk... Ppl have their liking and their choice of car... U might be rich and get a better car, but not everyone is lucky like u... Grow up pls... With ViosTRD price can buy the car like the fella you quote also But your mil sure look down on you |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 05:25 PM) Bodoh-nyau think those proton salesmen are praising ur Dugong TRD??? QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 06:23 PM) When a sport car met a super car its normal. DugongTRD is a sports car....lei lou mou osso can climb coconut treeSo its normal also ppl said proton is junk car when comparing it with sportcar. Sei so high IDIOT Joking nia...lol but i seriously mean it LOL |
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jul 19 2013, 07:50 PM) No offense, but pls dun call ppl life/car as junk... Ppl have their liking and their choice of car... U might be rich and get a better car, but not everyone is lucky like u... Grow up pls... huh? I only mention 1 "junk" word in this whole thread and you come give me some "grow up pls" advice??ViosTRD is junking this n junking that, I don't see you talk Kok to him?? did you bother to read the whole thread before you know what you are saying? wait let me guess, you also a vios driver ah?? no offense too.... This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Jul 19 2013, 08:27 PM |
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Epic thread. Just love this thread. me will consider dugong for my next car.
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 19 2013, 07:45 PM) when I see a vios driver, I am sad & pray for them Whatever people say, the oldest Vios '03 1st batch with jerky gearbox is still in 1 piece today with low maintenance. Its gearbox is still in running condition. becos.... clearly they value their life as junk too...after watching the crash test... so Mr.viosTRD, how many stars did Vios get for safety again?? City '03 at the other end is already highly worn out and some would require overhauling. City's CVT gearbox if anything gone wrong, how many workshop can fix? Can Honta SC overhaul the CVT gearbox? Back then, when wrong ATF was used causing steel belt dislocated, they were unable to fix the gearbox and unlucky owners have to wait few weeks to get brand new CVT gearbox from Japan at more than RM11k. Can't deny the Vios dugong is ugly. The new Vios 2013 has more proper look and it doesn't feel underpowered compared to City that is a bit sluggish when loaded. Despite what people talk about Vios, it's holding the FC king title and over long term, it's RV king defending title while City '03 RV has weakened. This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 19 2013, 10:03 PM |
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 19 2013, 08:26 PM) huh? I only mention 1 "junk" word in this whole thread and you come give me some "grow up pls" advice?? So emotional and good in making own assumption.. Kids, haha... ViosTRD is junking this n junking that, I don't see you talk Kok to him?? did you bother to read the whole thread before you know what you are saying? wait let me guess, you also a vios driver ah?? no offense too.... |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 10:02 PM) Whatever people say, the oldest Vios '03 1st batch with jerky gearbox is still in 1 piece today with low maintenance. Its gearbox is still in running condition. Errrr...City '03 at the other end is already highly worn out and some would require overhauling. City's CVT gearbox if anything gone wrong, how many workshop can fix? Can Honta SC overhaul the CVT gearbox? Back then, when wrong ATF was used causing steel belt dislocated, they were unable to fix the gearbox and unlucky owners have to wait few weeks to get brand new CVT gearbox from Japan at more than RM11k. Can't deny the Vios dugong is ugly. The new Vios 2013 has more proper look and it doesn't feel underpowered compared to City that is a bit sluggish when loaded. Despite what people talk about Vios, it's holding the FC king title and over long term, it's RV king defending title while City '03 RV has weakened. STFU Dumb-arse jayCraptor |
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i wonder what magic toyyoda did to the new vios
same engine and gearbox and the body is heavy by 200kgs give or take and someone here claims it is faster and more responsive? |
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jul 19 2013, 10:19 PM) i wonder what magic toyyoda did to the new vios give u more steel u wan complain , people dont like proton cause it's too light la , wind blow it will gone same engine and gearbox and the body is heavy by 200kgs give or take and someone here claims it is faster and more responsive? This post has been edited by nzh0920: Jul 19 2013, 10:23 PM |
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jul 19 2013, 10:19 PM) i wonder what magic toyyoda did to the new vios Haha this I know wei!!!!same engine and gearbox and the body is heavy by 200kgs give or take and someone here claims it is faster and more responsive? They add a 50kg metal bar front and back. suspension better. Other accs on the car.....almost there d. |
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jul 19 2013, 10:19 PM) i wonder what magic toyyoda did to the new vios Could be improved suspension? Altis FL '10 has revised suspension and increased in kerb weight compared to Altis '08. Handling improved in FL Altis '10 over the Altis '08 but because of new dual VVTi engine, the FC and strength also increased. same engine and gearbox and the body is heavy by 200kgs give or take and someone here claims it is faster and more responsive? The new Vios, Toyota already have dual VVTi 1.5L engine. Since Toyota will only give more ingredient if their sales is affected by competitor, else, they would pretend dunno like Camry '12. Since its sales not as good as older Camry '07, they might be willing to give new 3ZR-FE 2.0L dual VVTi engine + 6AT in the new FL or redesigned Camry. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 10:27 PM) Could be improved suspension? Altis FL '10 has revised suspension and increased in kerb weight compared to Altis '08. Handling improved in FL Altis '10 over the Altis '08 but because of new dual VVTi engine, the FC and strength also increased. yes yes yes, more 4 units 50kg metal bars The new Vios, Toyota already have dual VVTi 1.5L engine. Since Toyota will only give more ingredient if their sales is affected by competitor, else, they would pretend dunno like Camry '12. Since its sales not as good as older Camry '07, they might be willing to give new 3ZR-FE 2.0L dual VVTi engine + 6AT in the new FL or redesigned Camry. |
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oh wow
for the first time since i was born only now i know adding n x 50kgs bars will increase hp one This post has been edited by EP6CDTM: Jul 19 2013, 10:31 PM |
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jul 19 2013, 10:07 PM) Ignore those hungry for sales & money minded barbarians. They probably don't speak on behalf carbuyers and car owners. This is what happen when people are driven by income factor. Check some of their signature clearly stating they are doing sales. Normal common person would not have the word "PM me if interested" and post list of goods under signature. Get used to it and keep on replying facts and share with genuine forumners. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 10:27 PM) Could be improved suspension? Altis FL '10 has revised suspension and increased in kerb weight compared to Altis '08. Handling improved in FL Altis '10 over the Altis '08 but because of new dual VVTi engine, the FC and strength also increased. Media already announced using same engine and 4at gearbox.....oh wait u r more accurate than anything else in this world.....u win I lose....The new Vios, Toyota already have dual VVTi 1.5L engine. Since Toyota will only give more ingredient if their sales is affected by competitor, else, they would pretend dunno like Camry '12. Since its sales not as good as older Camry '07, they might be willing to give new 3ZR-FE 2.0L dual VVTi engine + 6AT in the new FL or redesigned Camry. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 10:30 PM) Ignore those hungry for sales & money minded barbarians. They probably don't speak on behalf carbuyers and car owners. This is what happen when people are driven by income factor. Check some of their signature clearly stating they are doing sales. Normal common person would not have the word "PM me if interested" and post list of goods under signature. Get used to it and keep on replying facts and share with genuine forumners. fck u la kia salemsan, fact your richard.... u cant even proof 1 thing that were cock out.... |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 10:27 PM) Could be improved suspension? Altis FL '10 has revised suspension and increased in kerb weight compared to Altis '08. Handling improved in FL Altis '10 over the Altis '08 but because of new dual VVTi engine, the FC and strength also increased. pls larrrr The new Vios, Toyota already have dual VVTi 1.5L engine. Since Toyota will only give more ingredient if their sales is affected by competitor, else, they would pretend dunno like Camry '12. Since its sales not as good as older Camry '07, they might be willing to give new 3ZR-FE 2.0L dual VVTi engine + 6AT in the new FL or redesigned Camry. fck-off with your Fortetek 1.6 4 Speeder it is totally no match for the Sporty ViosTRD no where near this jayCraptor must have lost his gf to a Vios Owner ptuiiiiii |
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So the new vios added metal bar 50kg too? Jay, where is my lgt rear 50kg metal bar? Need it asap. Tq
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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Jul 19 2013, 10:33 PM) pls larrrr Forte is C-segment while Vios is B-segment. I bought Forte because:fck-off with your Fortetek 1.6 4 Speeder it is totally no match for the Sporty ViosTRD no where near this jayCraptor must have lost his gf to a Vios Owner ptuiiiiii - I need to ferry passengers. - It passed min handling requirement to evade obstacles and hazard safely without losing control while cruising within speed limit. - The 4AT is still acceptable tech when it was introduced. FYI, the first few gears in the JATCO 4AT are bigger and stronger than some 5AT gearbox, ideal for starting from idle and city driving. Don't have to worry compared to CVT gearbox. Conventional gearbox is still mechanical and don't have to worry about steel belt dislocated or wrong ATF. - It passed torque test for 1.6L C-segment category. - Luggage space big enough and it has splitfold allowing me to place larger items. - Maintenance is low and spare parts are plenty yet cheap nowadays. - Reliable & durable enough. - FC wise beats your Inspira. - build quality also higher than your Inspira. |
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 19 2013, 10:32 PM) Media already announced using same engine and 4at gearbox.....oh wait u r more accurate than anything else in this world.....u win I lose.... Yes, the Vios 2013 is using the same engine & 4AT gearbox in Vios dugong. Read again my comment, I am talking about Toyota strategy in giving tech by using Altis and Camry as examples. Toyota already has dual VVTi 1.5L engine & Aisin 5AT/6AT gearbox. Because Vios dugong remain best seller B-segment, it took things for granted and carry over the old engine & gearbox thinking that we will buy it because it's Toyota. Toyota will only give you new tech if the sales is threatened by competitors. The only new toy they'll give in Vios 2013 could be just the suspension and chassis. |
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jul 19 2013, 10:29 PM) oh wow If you are talking about Lancer GT, its engine tuned higher & different suspension compared to Lancer GL & Inspira. for the first time since i was born only now i know adding n x 50kgs bars will increase hp one If you are talking about Altis FL '10 compared to Altis '08, it came with new dual VVTi engine, CVT gearbox and revised suspension. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 10:48 PM) Yes, the Vios 2013 is using the same engine & 4AT gearbox in Vios dugong. Read again my comment, I am talking about Toyota strategy in giving tech by using Altis and Camry as examples. Since u mentioned about suspension n chasis again, have u order my lgt 50kg rear metal bar? Much appreciated.Toyota already has dual VVTi 1.5L engine & Aisin 5AT/6AT gearbox. Because Vios dugong remain best seller B-segment, it took things for granted and carry over the old engine & gearbox thinking that we will buy it because it's Toyota. Toyota will only give you new tech if the sales is threatened by competitors. The only new toy they'll give in Vios 2013 could be just the suspension and chassis. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 10:51 PM) If you are talking about Lancer GT, its engine tuned higher & different suspension compared to Lancer GL & Inspira. Then the 50kg metal bar is a lie from you? Please tell me you are right, I belip in uIf you are talking about Altis FL '10 compared to Altis '08, it came with new dual VVTi engine, CVT gearbox and revised suspension. |
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 19 2013, 10:53 PM) Since u mentioned about suspension n chasis again, have u order my lgt 50kg rear metal bar? Much appreciated. You want to convert to Lancer GT, you have to order yourself. I am not rich like Bill Gates able to donate the entire Lancer GT suspension set to you. If you have budget to buy brand new Inspira 2.0 premium, you can also choose to buy the original used Lancer GT '11 with 199Nm@4250rpm torque. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 11:02 PM) You want to convert to Lancer GT, you have to order yourself. I am not rich like Bill Gates able to donate the entire Lancer GT suspension set to you. If you have budget to buy brand new Inspira 2.0 premium, you can also choose to buy the original used Lancer GT '11 with 199Nm@4250rpm torque. I'm not asking you to donate, bro. I wan to buy from you, u mentioned early tht could be the part provider that we are actually buying outside. I've searched few local parts shop including VANLI @ jalan ipoh de, they dun have the 50kg metal bar. I never buy such high tech car b4, so I wan brand new car, not 2nd hand, thus with my income I could buy inspira2'0p n with the dc I get, I think I could buy the 50kg metal bar that u mentioned from you, i'm not asking for donation in the first placeThis post has been edited by dreamsquall: Jul 19 2013, 11:09 PM |
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JayCraptor still lost his gf to Vios Owner
Shame on You Where is the 50kg metal bar???? u dumb-arse pic link or brochure or anything sei so high |
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 19 2013, 11:09 PM) I'm not asking you to donate, bro. I wan to buy from you, u mentioned early tht could be the part provider that we are actually buying outside. I've searched few local parts shop including VANLI @ jalan ipoh de, they dun have the 50kg metal bar. I never buy such high tech car b4, so I wan brand new car, not 2nd hand, thus with my income I could buy inspira2'0p n with the dc I get, I think I could buy the 50kg metal bar that u mentioned from you, i'm not asking for donation in the first place dreamsquall,Come on, any1 could tell that comment is to simply reply that sellman ridiculous reply as part of joke. That is how you entertain their anger. You wanted the bar, buy the used ori Lancer GT. WilliamHoo, Still replying nonsense? If you have nothing related to topic to talk, don't reply. This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 19 2013, 11:25 PM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 11:24 PM) dreamsquall, they just seeking clarification regarding the 50kg metal bar from you Come on, any1 could tell that comment is to simply reply that sellman ridiculous reply as part of joke. That is how you entertain their anger. WilliamHoo, Still replying nonsense? If you have nothing related to topic to talk, don't reply. |
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 19 2013, 11:26 PM) This is the risk they'll take if they wanted to buy from suppliers. That's why, who ask them to buy Inspira but wanted handling of Lancer GT.This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 19 2013, 11:31 PM |
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Jul 19 2013, 11:32 PM
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Used lgt bar from chop shop I think not from the version u mentioned about 50kg de, maybe from msia spec lgt too but the boss said they bring back from japan de la. Lighter version metal bar I could get it easily from parts shop.
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 11:38 PM) Jay, dont need to bother them. I also lazy to entertain them, better save my energy for better things. But but, jayraptor say ur vios b-segment wor........didn't u argue ur vios is more than d-segment??? U should taruh kaw kaw....instead of fren fren lor....u disappoint meLet them enjoy their ride. They just cant accept the truth why toyota is in the first place and its been honoured as the best one. You will only shorten your life when you deal with those people. |
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 11:38 PM) Jay, dont need to bother them. I also lazy to entertain them, better save my energy for better things. Jay the one enlightened me about different chasis body, ok? He clearly telling me the part different is the 50kg rear metal bar. I'm so happy to know the difference thus I went for a search for this item but failed. He mentioned b4 he might be the parts provider thus i'm seeking help from him.Let them enjoy their ride. They just cant accept the truth why toyota is in the first place and its been honoured as the best one. You will only shorten your life when you deal with those people. Now viosTRD, u tell me where.should I get the part other than him? |
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Jul 19 2013, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 19 2013, 11:38 PM) Jay, dont need to bother them. I also lazy to entertain them, better save my energy for better things. I treat it as practice on how to handle angry people in reality. You stick to facts and rationality, they will be defenseless and could only fill in the blanks with foul language or try to post more replies on 1 single comment to show that every1 disagree with you. Just relax and stay ethical. Such practice could improve your debate skill.Let them enjoy their ride. They just cant accept the truth why toyota is in the first place and its been honoured as the best one. You will only shorten your life when you deal with those people. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 11:50 PM) I treat it as practice on how to handle angry people in reality. You stick to facts and rationality, they will be defenseless and could only fill in the blanks with foul language or try to post more replies on 1 single comment to show that every1 disagree with you. Just relax and stay ethical. Such practice could improve your debate skill. Not to interrupt u, but could I buy the 50kg metal bar from you? Again, i'm not asking for donation. |
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 19 2013, 11:47 PM) Jay the one enlightened me about different chasis body, ok? He clearly telling me the part different is the 50kg rear metal bar. I'm so happy to know the difference thus I went for a search for this item but failed. He mentioned b4 he might be the parts provider thus i'm seeking help from him. If conti cars chassis design, they would add weight to bottom of the chassis to make them stable. In addition to the already wide stance suspension setup, this gives conti cars superior handling. You can take a Citroen with hydraulic suspension to take hard corner at much higher speed. Now viosTRD, u tell me where.should I get the part other than him? Don't divert elsewhere. You all know I am not the part supplier nor working with MMC and my info came from technical staff while they were still with the companies. So get back to reality and wake up from lalaland. If you have the cash, you can find out where MMC plant in Japan is and travel all the way there to get more technical info on the Lancer GT that was sold here from '07 to '12. Perhaps MMC engineers for public relation could get you more precise info to convert your Inspira 2.0 to Lancer GT closer to 100%. |
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Okok then ur info about the 50kg rear metal bar is true or not de? I where got such cash to travel jipun ? Better I order from you, u know those technical staff, could you ask them where I could buy the 50kg rear metal bar for lgt? Easier tis way, right?.agree?
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 20 2013, 12:09 AM) Okok then ur info about the 50kg rear metal bar is true or not de? I where got such cash to travel jipun ? Better I order from you, u know those technical staff, could you ask them where I could buy the 50kg rear metal bar for lgt? Easier tis way, right?.agree? SC technical staff only make sure your car is getting the parts from the guide provided. They don't change the specs of your car. If your car is Inspira, I doubt official MMC SC would accept your car at all. You don't have money to Jepang, while bother to buy suspension for your Inspira? It's not even broken.This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 20 2013, 12:15 AM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 20 2013, 12:15 AM) SC technical staff only make sure your car is getting the parts from the guide provided. They don't change the specs of your car. If your car is Inspira, I doubt official MMC SC would accept your car at all. You don't have money to Jepang, while bother to buy suspension for your Inspira? It's not even broken. I'm not asking MMC SC to accept my car, I dont plan to change the suspension neither. I just wan to buy the rear 50kg metal bar that u mentioned. I can install it on my own with some help since it is a bit heavy, 50kg metal, bro |
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 20 2013, 12:20 AM) I'm not asking MMC SC to accept my car, I dont plan to change the suspension neither. I just wan to buy the rear 50kg metal bar that u mentioned. I can install it on my own with some help since it is a bit heavy, 50kg metal, bro You can walk over to MMC SC to ask for quote. Before you do that, better you check with their higher access level technical staff on how to convert Inspira to Lancer GT '10.This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 20 2013, 12:23 AM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 20 2013, 12:23 AM) You can walk over to MMC SC to ask for quote. Before you do that, better you check with their higher access level technical staff on how to convert Inspira to Lancer GT '10. How do I check with their higher access level technical staff? U seems know more about the metal bar, so why dont you share me the source u get from about the rear 50kg metal bar. I checked with authorised mitsubishi parts dealer, they got the lgt rear metal bar = auntierollbar but they say wont reach 50kg. |
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aiyoyo, go open a new topic for the 50kg bar or car A vs car B vs car C, let's not mess up with TS's thread, agree?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 11:50 PM) I treat it as practice on how to handle angry people in reality. You stick to facts and rationality, they will be defenseless and could only fill in the blanks with foul language or try to post more replies on 1 single comment to show that every1 disagree with you. Just relax and stay ethical. Such practice could improve your debate skill. Err bro, you do know except the Vios, our dear viosTRD here has bashed every other brand/car under the sun? including your beloved Kimchis and Contis ? Based on his posts below, I guess that makes him a Toyota salesman.QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 18 2013, 10:30 AM) because i dont want him made a wrong decision even its cheaper. dont just become of some money you regret for long term. i got myself a proton for my first car too and regret til now. still think back why last time why dont want listen to older generation save more money get japs car instead of proton. His comment in the Cerato vs Focus vs Civic threadVios compare to Forte now after proton is thrashed? Forte only add fancy fancy stuff to cheat buyer, FC also super high. you drive 1.6 forte but the FC is higher than camr 2.0. do you in many cases those accessories are easily broken and airbags dont even work in accident. the buyer trust the car, the car disappointed the buyer lol. a car is a transport which mean for your convenience. so you buy a car which always broke down? of course prefer proven engine with realibility la.. Vios 1.5 can produce good output power engine smooth and can use for very long seldom need repaired one. if yes also minor problem. FC so good can travel everywhere no problem. resale value top ranking! if we sit liao beh syok, can change anytime, you bought korean car, here broken there faulty, want change car also cannot, still need top up cash even trade in your korean cars. QUOTE(viosTRD @ Jul 15 2013, 03:46 PM) yes. agree. those other car that listed by TS is actually not a competitor to civic also. those car is not comparable. the quality wise even worst. until today japanese car fetching the highest second value and have better quality plus reliable especially T&H is because their car is proven! Curiously he dare not comment in the Vios vs Forte thread....probably knowing he will have to make his case against you |
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 20 2013, 12:29 AM) How do I check with their higher access level technical staff? U seems know more about the metal bar, so why dont you share me the source u get from about the rear 50kg metal bar. I checked with authorised mitsubishi parts dealer, they got the lgt rear metal bar = auntierollbar but they say wont reach 50kg. Enough talk, already stating clearly where I got the info. Ok? I suggest you check with MMC SC or at their HQ technical department where they still have the complete technical details of each Lancer model sold here and get them to tell you where the 50kg in Lancer GT coming from. They could list you each and every part that is not found in Lancer GL. It is up to you on how to persuade the right person with right access to assist you. |
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why do i still need check with MMC SC to list every part not found in Lancer GL? i just need the rear 50kg metal bar that u mentioned. i do not need other parts, ok? i just need the rear 50kg metal bar. Unless you telling me lies about the 50kg metal bar which does not exist according to authorised Mitsubishi parts dealer(i did argued with them yesterday, they challenged me back about the 50kg rear metal bar that they would buy the parts from me if i managed to get it outside), so please could u ask ur technical staff fren where i could buy the 50kg rear metal bar tht u mentioned so i could sell it back to Authorised Mitsubishi Parts Dealer(VANLI@Jalan Ipoh) come on, we can make good fortune here
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Honestly who would buy a lancer or civic when toyota vios can guarantee a drivers satisfaction to they limit at extend by its proven chart. The combination given by this simplified car meaning vios has undoubtedly no boundaries of pushing it's limits which counters of its perfect handling, enormous amount of torque delivery and last but not least its amazing top speed.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 20 2013, 12:40 AM) Enough talk, already stating clearly where I got the info. Ok? I suggest you check with MMC SC or at their HQ technical department where they still have the complete technical details of each Lancer model sold here and get them to tell you where the 50kg in Lancer GT coming from. They could list you each and every part that is not found in Lancer GL. It is up to you on how to persuade the right person with right access to assist you. it seem that only u know got 50kg different, even the mitsu malaysia official website also stated 1360kg, may b u can give a call to your thailand friend.... so.... fck u again for keep bull sh!ting |
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 20 2013, 03:30 AM) it seem that only u know got 50kg different, even the mitsu malaysia official website also stated 1360kg, Based on you and the few who went personal and AWOL signatures, more likely your business is selling convertion kit for Inspira. No wonder you all care so much. Can PM you with other username to find out anytime then everyone knows the truth. may b u can give a call to your thailand friend.... so.... fck u again for keep bull sh!ting The 50kg difference on the ori Lancer GT '07-12, everyone knows. Only thing is many of them have forgotten the specs. You wanted to know further and if you know how to get to MMC technical staff that has access to Lancer GT and Lancer GL '07 full details, you could get them to list you the differences. If you are involved in selling parts, you should do that as it could help you in your business. Picking fight with forumners yet doing indirect sales here would only open you to risk of getting banned. This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 21 2013, 10:17 PM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 21 2013, 10:16 PM) Based on you and the few who went personal and AWOL signatures, more likely your business is selling convertion kit for Inspira. No wonder you all care so much. Can PM you with other username to find out anytime then everyone knows the truth. fck u for bullsh!ting again la, what conversion kit? the thing i selling not even appear on lancer gt in malaysia. so how???The 50kg difference on the ori Lancer GT '07-12, everyone knows. Only thing is many of them have forgotten the specs. You wanted to know further and if you know how to get to MMC technical staff that has access to Lancer GT and Lancer GL '07 full details, you could get them to list you the differences. If you are involved in selling parts, you should do that as it could help you in your business. Picking fight with forumners yet doing indirect sales here would only open you to risk of getting banned. since u said everyone knows about 07 to 12 gt got 50kg more in curb weight, so me the proof please else please get the fck out of LYN and go back to your AW dog cave This post has been edited by nzh0920: Jul 22 2013, 12:31 AM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 20 2013, 12:40 AM) Enough LIES, already BULLSHIATTED clearly where I got the info. KOREKTEDOk? I suggest you check with MMC SC or at their HQ technical department where they still have the complete technical details of each Lancer model sold here and get them to tell you where the 50kg in Lancer GT coming from. TO PROVE I BULLSHIATTED ON THE 50KG METAL BAR They could list you each and every part that is not found in Lancer GL. It is up to you on how to TWIST the right person with right access to assist you. JayCraptor 50kg metal bar please justify with actual parts number i doubt u can find any 50kg metal bar parts number, u bullshiatter |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 21 2013, 10:16 PM) Based on you and the few who went personal and AWOL signatures, more likely your business is selling convertion kit for Inspira. No wonder you all care so much. Can PM you with other username to find out anytime then everyone knows the truth. Im sorry.. Reject you the hard way u make up story..The 50kg difference on the ori Lancer GT '07-12, everyone knows. Only thing is many of them have forgotten the specs. You wanted to know further and if you know how to get to MMC technical staff that has access to Lancer GT and Lancer GL '07 full details, you could get them to list you the differences. If you are involved in selling parts, you should do that as it could help you in your business. Picking fight with forumners yet doing indirect sales here would only open you to risk of getting banned. so now try reject you the soft way.. lowyat net was an interesting place.. Not until u came.. whatever you said.. Ppl must agree whatever fact ppl throw to you.. You can disagree We show u official website .. You says they are wrong you are correct. we show u factory service manual.. You says they are wrong too. And you are correct we tell you absorbers spring and antirollbar are local made many parts mitsu.. You disagree.. Make one big round come back and says nahhhh .. Already says absober sprig and metal bar diff.. And many more.. Further comment will make u rage more only. Then you further accuse we are salesman .. Kudos u did it.. Someone pm me asking for 2.0 discount.. Well obviously I have no contact and no car for ppl now.. GG You are damn good in making story.. Look at my signature. I do tune up / autolock setting for inspira lancer or even asx. Whats the diff someone buy lancer or inspira to me? I told you I can read tuning map. And told u lancer GT and inspira having the same map. And u says I lie.. To summarize that.. Whatever you says is correct .. Whatever other ppl comment is wrong. So no point throwing u facts or even comment with u. GG! Happy crapping! |
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 22 2013, 07:33 AM) Im sorry.. Reject you the hard way u make up story.. eh the 1.8P i booked bila sampai so now try reject you the soft way.. lowyat net was an interesting place.. Not until u came.. whatever you said.. Ppl must agree whatever fact ppl throw to you.. You can disagree We show u official website .. You says they are wrong you are correct. we show u factory service manual.. You says they are wrong too. And you are correct we tell you absorbers spring and antirollbar are local made many parts mitsu.. You disagree.. Make one big round come back and says nahhhh .. Already says absober sprig and metal bar diff.. And many more.. Further comment will make u rage more only. Then you further accuse we are salesman .. Kudos u did it.. Someone pm me asking for 2.0 discount.. Well obviously I have no contact and no car for ppl now.. GG You are damn good in making story.. Look at my signature. I do tune up / autolock setting for inspira lancer or even asx. Whats the diff someone buy lancer or inspira to me? I told you I can read tuning map. And told u lancer GT and inspira having the same map. And u says I lie.. To summarize that.. Whatever you says is correct .. Whatever other ppl comment is wrong. So no point throwing u facts or even comment with u. GG! Happy crapping! |
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 19 2013, 11:35 AM) Sorry bro, read clearly I did not.tell.my wira is 1.5 my wira 96' is 1.8 sohc mt so ur stock teerrdee can eat my petrol shit the truth is vios part are very cheap but is cap ayam part or taiwan part. if you compare original part with nissan or kia then vios part damn expensive. THis is truth.Never feel butthurt b4, all my vios.frens advise me dun buy tis car, problem kicks in after 2years |
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still cheap la
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Vios- god car. Enuff said. Even if ur face alike toilet bowl, chick still follow u. To view hater. Pls go dai la. Even ur gtr can't beat Vios- torque 1-100km/j only need 1second.
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yup.. nobody ever said vios no good.. just that it's not the bestest and chickest magnet around lar.. cerato or k5 is... hehe
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chick magnet or not
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Chick magnet laaaa...
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jul 22 2013, 11:15 AM) Vios- god car. Enuff said. Even if ur face alike toilet bowl, chick still follow u. To view hater. Pls go dai la. Even ur gtr can't beat Vios- torque 1-100km/j only need 1second. yup i agree!!! Vios interior is as ggod as Camry which beyond rolls royce class...hmmmm 1 question, If someone really loves vios.... who cares about resale price unless that car is used to make him self happy like masturbating lols then after that sell the car and buy Forte..... hmmmm good plan isnt it? |
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Toyota Vios has the best resale value on the market here because its price doesn't decrease instead it increases every year. Here's a fact you see every day.
-People driving Vios= 4 Leng Lui inside -People driving GTR= Only one (pffffttt better be forever alone) -GTR 2008 price now = RM36XXXX -Toyota Vios price now = STILL THE SAME because it NEVER DROPPED in fact it Increases and new models increased by 10% for every resale from seller. This post has been edited by yegaz: Jul 22 2013, 03:08 PM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 11:50 PM) I treat it as practice on how to handle angry people in reality. You stick to facts and rationality, they will be defenseless and could only fill in the blanks with foul language or try to post more replies on 1 single comment to show that every1 disagree with you. Just relax and stay ethical. Such practice could improve your debate skill. this is a practice on how you bullshit angry people in reality. you stick to non conformable "facts" that can only proven by yourself and ignore facts or arguments given by the other party. if you're a salesman i would have walked out after 10 minutes of hearing your nonsense. do everyone here a favor, and yourself and provide some real solid proof that 50kg metal bar exists. dont ask me to find my own way to talk to the relevant people or go japan and source for it. the world is smaller now, we can source without even leaving our houses. if its just a metal bar it should be readily available, given lancer GT?GL is a very common car |
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QUOTE(yegaz @ Jul 22 2013, 02:54 PM) Toyota Vios has the best resale value on the market here because its price doesn't decrease instead it increases every year. Here's a fact you see every day. -People driving Vios= 4 Leng Lui inside -People driving GTR= Only one (pffffttt better be forever alone) -GTR 2008 price now = RM36XXXX -Toyota Vios price now = STILL THE SAME because it NEVER DROPPED in fact it Increases and new models increased by 10% for every resale from seller. |
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 22 2013, 12:29 AM) fck u for bullsh!ting again la, what conversion kit? the thing i selling not even appear on lancer gt in malaysia. so how??? Bunch of sales related people still refused to surrender? Based on what you are selling, ofcourse, you sell only accessories. The others, something else. Anyway, whatever you bunch selling, they are related to Inspira sales. More people buy Inspira means higher chance they will buy things from you. since u said everyone knows about 07 to 12 gt got 50kg more in curb weight, so me the proof please else please get the fck out of LYN and go back to your AW dog cave You should know, if you are into sales line, you should not offend others especially getting into personal fight which is bad for your business. Since you so doubtful on the 50kg difference, feel free to clarify with MMC technical department for full details. Remember to specify Lancer '07 to '12. Not the current detuned variant. Whatever thing is, the Lancer has been around since '07. It could be phased out anytime. You may stick to your Inspira and hope people would still pay RM90k for phased out car. The Forte that is further development out of the Lancer frame is also under replacement left only with remaining stock to clear off to make way for new Rio 1.6L sedan. You still want to argue about Lancer & Inspira? Wake up. |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 22 2013, 04:28 PM) this is a practice on how you bullshit angry people in reality. you stick to non conformable "facts" that can only proven by yourself and ignore facts or arguments given by the other party. if you're a salesman i would have walked out after 10 minutes of hearing your nonsense. do everyone here a favor, and yourself and provide some real solid proof that 50kg metal bar exists. If that photo in your avatar is you, I can say your muscle is crappy. You are just too skinny and too small. I won't post that humiliating photo if I were you. dont ask me to find my own way to talk to the relevant people or go japan and source for it. the world is smaller now, we can source without even leaving our houses. if its just a metal bar it should be readily available, given lancer GT?GL is a very common car Fact is I am not sellman, nothing to sell. You want to sell something? Go Mudah.com and not LYF and pick fight with genuine forumners. You do crappy building, careful, might get you stroke or heart attack for training wrongly. Advise from oldman. This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 22 2013, 11:14 PM |
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Bro, how is 50kg rear metal bar for lgt? Could u please give me a direct answer whether mmc is producing the type of metal bar that u said?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:12 PM) If that photo in your avatar is you, I can say your muscle is crappy. You are just too skinny and too small. I won't post that humiliating photo if I were you. Don't call yourself as a debater, you are not a debater.Fact is I am not sellman, nothing to sell. You want to sell something? Go Mudah.com and not LYF and pick fight with genuine forumners. You do crappy building, careful, might get you stroke or heart attack for training wrongly. Advise from oldman. I think you got mental problem. Do you know how to write "shame"? |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:10 PM) Bunch of sales related people still refused to surrender? Based on what you are selling, ofcourse, you sell only accessories. The others, something else. Anyway, whatever you bunch selling, they are related to Inspira sales. More people buy Inspira means higher chance they will buy things from you. you guys reading this??You should know, if you are into sales line, you should not offend others especially getting into personal fight which is bad for your business. Since you so doubtful on the 50kg difference, feel free to clarify with MMC technical department for full details. Remember to specify Lancer '07 to '12. Not the current detuned variant. Whatever thing is, the Lancer has been around since '07. It could be phased out anytime. You may stick to your Inspira and hope people would still pay RM90k for phased out car. The Forte that is further development out of the Lancer frame is also under replacement left only with remaining stock to clear off to make way for new Rio 1.6L sedan. You still want to argue about Lancer & Inspira? Wake up. oh mai .. Lolz |
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 22 2013, 11:37 PM) You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars.This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 22 2013, 11:45 PM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM) You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars. Lolzz .. Go on.. Go on.. Btw.. I think u meant Lancer GT chassis rite? Not lancer GL rite? This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Jul 23 2013, 12:00 AM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:12 PM) If that photo in your avatar is you, I can say your muscle is crappy. You are just too skinny and too small. I won't post that humiliating photo if I were you. This must quote!!!Fact is I am not sellman, nothing to sell. You want to sell something? Go Mudah.com and not LYF and pick fight with genuine forumners. You do crappy building, careful, might get you stroke or heart attack for training wrongly. Advise from oldman. Now who is going personal? Ppl is asking u question, ask u give fact. You ask ppl fly kite. |
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Jul 23 2013, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM) You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars. Ah I see!!!!No wonder la.... The othe day I sit the old Honda city. The floor also not flat. I so feel I in a lancer-frame. |
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Jul 23 2013, 12:15 AM
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If Jaycraptheory is true....
Inspira chasis = lancer gl chasis Lancer gt chasis = lancer gl chasis + 50kg rear metal bar Lancer gt chasis = inspira chasis + 50kg rear metal bar So wat I need now is the 50kg rear metal bar. However 50kg rear metal bar = jaycraptheory myth Thus, Lancer gt chasis = inspira chasis + jaycraptheory myth So if jaycraptheory myth = not exist, Lancer gt chasis = inspira chasis Am I correct? Pls enlighten me, i'm lost |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM) You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars. walao means almost every car i've sat in my life all based on lancer chasis ? damm even my honda city also based on lancer chasis. can vroom vroom edi |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:10 PM) Bunch of sales related people still refused to surrender? Based on what you are selling, ofcourse, you sell only accessories. The others, something else. Anyway, whatever you bunch selling, they are related to Inspira sales. More people buy Inspira means higher chance they will buy things from you. so how about lancer then?? u pay more than rm120k for a phase out car? You should know, if you are into sales line, you should not offend others especially getting into personal fight which is bad for your business. Since you so doubtful on the 50kg difference, feel free to clarify with MMC technical department for full details. Remember to specify Lancer '07 to '12. Not the current detuned variant. Whatever thing is, the Lancer has been around since '07. It could be phased out anytime. You may stick to your Inspira and hope people would still pay RM90k for phased out car. The Forte that is further development out of the Lancer frame is also under replacement left only with remaining stock to clear off to make way for new Rio 1.6L sedan. You still want to argue about Lancer & Inspira? Wake up. but wikipedia states Forte 1st gen is based on Hyundai HD platform, and Hyundai HD platform was never linked with Lancer platform. the Rio 3rd Gen (UB) platform is also based on Hyundai Accent (RB) platform so how can it be related to the new Kia K3/Cerato, which is based on Hyundai Elantra (MD) platform? QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM) You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars. From wikipedia: The cylinder block and other basic structural parts of the engine were jointly developed by the GEMA companies, but the intake and exhaust manifolds, the cylinder head’s intake and exhaust ports, and other elements related to engine tuning were independently developed by Mitsubishi. So wikipedia tipu? your higher source of technical confirm this? Mitusbishi Lancer is using the GS platform woh, neva stated also this platform is being shared by Hyundai or Kia? The manufacturere sharing the GS platform are: Chrysler/Fiat, Peugot/Citroen and of coz Proton Inspira. So wikipedia lie again? |
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Jul 23 2013, 12:43 AM
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Not lie, just the wikipedia information is wrong, based on jaycraptor theory, might need to venture wikithai for full details, otherwise need to fly to japan and search for enlightenment there
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Jul 23 2013, 12:58 AM
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as long as info from other place rather than thai brochure then its wrong la!
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In summary...
Forte chassis = Lancer GT chassis Inspira chassis = Wira GL chassis According to raptor |
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Jul 23 2013, 09:39 AM
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U know what..... Jayraptor is so famous... he just sparked the big laugh at Proton RnD hicom shah alam just now hahahahahahahahahaha
Even my fren ZTH editor was laughing endlessly.... He shall be the next Rusell Peter..... Be a man, do the right thing! |
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Lols...... I laugh until lau sai edi hahahahahaha... u all troll king lols
Pity Vios now suddenly become so famous until skyline and supra also no one wants to buy... |
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 23 2013, 03:42 PM) Lu punya english fail until >_> Harlow!Some more got 3 condo worth 1 lamboghini each . Drive vios so fast until can split dimensions.. but cannot understand english .. Hhahaha ViosTRD got japan AV star smell, and the owners also uses high class Japanese English! Faham tak? |
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QUOTE(8431 @ Jul 23 2013, 12:37 AM) so how about lancer then?? u pay more than rm120k for a phase out car? Wikipedia, you can pay for the slot and update the information. Treat it as general encyclopedia rather than 100% facts. Some of the N-brand products, the info were uploaded by locals, do you know that? News on some murder case and police case can be found on Wiki, when you come across them, would you believe the story 100% compared to what you have here? When news that the Waja & Volvo S40 were based on Mitsubishi Charisma platform first told by non-big shot, nobody actually believes. but wikipedia states Forte 1st gen is based on Hyundai HD platform, and Hyundai HD platform was never linked with Lancer platform. the Rio 3rd Gen (UB) platform is also based on Hyundai Accent (RB) platform so how can it be related to the new Kia K3/Cerato, which is based on Hyundai Elantra (MD) platform? From wikipedia: The cylinder block and other basic structural parts of the engine were jointly developed by the GEMA companies, but the intake and exhaust manifolds, the cylinder head’s intake and exhaust ports, and other elements related to engine tuning were independently developed by Mitsubishi. So wikipedia tipu? your higher source of technical confirm this? Mitusbishi Lancer is using the GS platform woh, neva stated also this platform is being shared by Hyundai or Kia? The manufacturere sharing the GS platform are: Chrysler/Fiat, Peugot/Citroen and of coz Proton Inspira. So wikipedia lie again? Whatever, there are information that carmakers tend to keep it away from public. Koreans and Japanese are known to be kiasu & wanted credits badly. They would not reveal anything when comes to that part. They would claim indigenious 100% self made without any help from outside on certain products but when relook further, you'll slowly find that there are parts bought from German or made under license, etc. Rio & Accent are B-segment. Nothing to do with K3 Cerato. Due to revised P1 protection policy & NAP, quality B-segment pricing has been pushed to almost RM90k while Korean cars are labelled as quality cars on same level as Japanese made therefore, the Koreans no longer entitled to cheaper tax rate. Because of this, the K3 Cerato is forced to sell higher and use ori Kia badge as using NASA badge can't get them further price reduction. |
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So NASA selling cars instead of creating spacecraft already?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 24 2013, 11:02 PM) Wikipedia, you can pay for the slot and update the information. Treat it as general encyclopedia rather than 100% facts. Some of the N-brand products, the info were uploaded by locals, do you know that? News on some murder case and police case can be found on Wiki, when you come across them, would you believe the story 100% compared to what you have here? When news that the Waja & Volvo S40 were based on Mitsubishi Charisma platform first told by non-big shot, nobody actually believes. Nasa must be.too boring out thereWhatever, there are information that carmakers tend to keep it away from public. Koreans and Japanese are known to be kiasu & wanted credits badly. They would not reveal anything when comes to that part. They would claim indigenious 100% self made without any help from outside on certain products but when relook further, you'll slowly find that there are parts bought from German or made under license, etc. Rio & Accent are B-segment. Nothing to do with K3 Cerato. Due to revised P1 protection policy & NAP, quality B-segment pricing has been pushed to almost RM90k while Korean cars are labelled as quality cars on same level as Japanese made therefore, the Koreans no longer entitled to cheaper tax rate. Because of this, the K3 Cerato is forced to sell higher and use ori Kia badge as using NASA badge can't get them further price reduction. |
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Hope they do sell.lgt rear 50kg metal bar
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 17 2013, 02:08 PM) You love your car, good for you. I can imagine how viosTRD prays at home. He prays to a ViosTRD miniatures model instead of Guanyin or other Gods. Haha..You have a friend who owns a Saga and a Vios, I owned a Saga and my family has a Vios which I also drive, so? Got people disagree with you, you also butthurt. Just the same way you say we butthurt. Each car got good and bad. It seems you can't accept that your beloved car has it's negative points as well. So much so I'm beginning to believe you're a Toyota salesman. We can go on and on and on and on...... Oh ya forget to mention, I bet he masturbates to his Vios too. Vios is a good car but don't brag until so extreme la.. Chic Magnet.. Also need to see what class you referring to ma.. Some Chics won't even bother to look at Vios.. This post has been edited by johnlaw: Jul 25 2013, 11:23 AM |
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 23 2013, 03:42 PM) Lu punya english fail until >_> Hey everyone can blow water here ma. I also can say I own 5 units in Quayside Condominium. I can change my name to HondaCity too.. But it doesn't mean I own a Honda City. Maybe I'm driving a Viva and Honda City is my dream car le?Some more got 3 condo worth 1 lamboghini each . Drive vios so fast until can split dimensions.. but cannot understand english .. Hhahaha |
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QUOTE(johnlaw @ Jul 25 2013, 11:29 AM) Hey everyone can blow water here ma. I also can say I own 5 units in Quayside Condominium. I can change my name to HondaCity too.. But it doesn't mean I own a Honda City. Maybe I'm driving a Viva and Honda City is my dream car le? Okay .. so ?What exactly is your point ? I shouldn't be regaling everyone with what he said ? It's like you just typed a response for the sake of getting into the discussion.. But I have no idea what is the point of it all. Are you saying he is right ? Or is he wrong ? |
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 25 2013, 05:17 PM) Okay .. so ? I'm on your side. LOL. I wanted to reply to him but I can't see his comments here. Don't know what's the problem.What exactly is your point ? I shouldn't be regaling everyone with what he said ? It's like you just typed a response for the sake of getting into the discussion.. But I have no idea what is the point of it all. Are you saying he is right ? Or is he wrong ? |
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QUOTE(johnlaw @ Jul 25 2013, 05:29 PM) I'm on your side. LOL. I wanted to reply to him but I can't see his comments here. Don't know what's the problem. hahaha. okay . was just confused. That guy has a lot of comments la. all over F n F >_< Edit : Seems like the troll deleted all his posts. LOL This post has been edited by omnimech: Jul 25 2013, 05:31 PM |
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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 25 2013, 01:29 AM) Those of you that kept attacking the 50kg difference is fake but you all can't even point what makes the difference. How come none of you ever take the initiative to check with MMC technical staff that has full access to Lancer GT & Lancer GL in depth to find out if so curious to prove it? Is it that you all already knew the 50kg difference and do not want anyone to spread this issue? Lancer GT '07-12 kerb weight 1385kg Lancer GL kerb weight 1335kg. Taking other cars kerb weight to compare with differences: Honda City 1.5S 1140kg vs City 1.5E 1160kg = 20kg difference - no paddle shift / got paddle shift - 15" rim / 16" rim - exhaust pipe trim - side mirror signal - leather steering wheel - both got split fold Nissan Latio 1.6 low spec 1142kg vs high spec 1152kg = 10kg difference - no split fold / got split fold - no wood trim / got wood trim - fabric / leather - both using same tyre and 15" rim Inspira 2.0E kerb weight '11 1335kg, current 1345kg vs 2.0 premium 1350kg = 35kg/ 25kg - 16" rim / 17" rim - fabric / leather - less accessories / more accessories - no bodykit / with bodykit Difference between 2010 Forte 1.6EX 15" rim vs 1.6SX 17" rim kerb weight berapa? Also not much gap like others. As you can see, the difference including bodykit ain't that much difference after all. How come only Lancer GT difference so big? There is the Lancer GLS, despite with big rim + full bodykit also no where close to 1385kg. You can't explain do you? This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 26 2013, 11:11 PM |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 26 2013, 11:08 PM) Those of you that kept attacking the 50kg difference is fake but you all can't even point what makes the difference. How come none of you ever take the initiative to check with MMC technical staff that has full access to Lancer GT & Lancer GL in depth to find out if so curious to prove it? Is it that you all already knew the 50kg difference and do not want anyone to spread this issue? U did explain already about the 50kg lgt rear metal bar, so why do we need to explain else? Are u trying to.tell.me that 50kg rear metal.bar of lgt does not exist?Lancer GT '07-12 kerb weight 1385kg Lancer GL kerb weight 1335kg. Taking other cars kerb weight to compare with differences: Honda City 1.5S 1140kg vs City 1.5E 1160kg = 20kg difference - no paddle shift / got paddle shift - 15" rim / 16" rim - exhaust pipe trim - side mirror signal - leather steering wheel - both got split fold Nissan Latio 1.6 low spec 1142kg vs high spec 1152kg = 10kg difference - no split fold / got split fold - no wood trim / got wood trim - fabric / leather - both using same tyre and 15" rim Inspira 2.0E kerb weight '11 1335kg, current 1345kg vs 2.0 premium 1350kg = 35kg/ 25kg - 16" rim / 17" rim - fabric / leather - less accessories / more accessories - no bodykit / with bodykit Difference between 2010 Forte 1.6EX 15" rim vs 1.6SX 17" rim kerb weight berapa? Also not much gap like others. As you can see, the difference including bodykit ain't that much difference after all. How come only Lancer GT difference so big? There is the Lancer GLS, despite with big rim + full bodykit also no where close to 1385kg. You can't explain do you? |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 26 2013, 11:08 PM) Those of you that kept attacking the 50kg difference is fake but you all can't even point what makes the difference. How come none of you ever take the initiative to check with MMC technical staff that has full access to Lancer GT & Lancer GL in depth to find out if so curious to prove it? Is it that you all already knew the 50kg difference and do not want anyone to spread this issue? We did ...Lancer GT '07-12 kerb weight 1385kg Lancer GL kerb weight 1335kg. Taking other cars kerb weight to compare with differences: Honda City 1.5S 1140kg vs City 1.5E 1160kg = 20kg difference - no paddle shift / got paddle shift - 15" rim / 16" rim - exhaust pipe trim - side mirror signal - leather steering wheel - both got split fold Nissan Latio 1.6 low spec 1142kg vs high spec 1152kg = 10kg difference - no split fold / got split fold - no wood trim / got wood trim - fabric / leather - both using same tyre and 15" rim Inspira 2.0E kerb weight '11 1335kg, current 1345kg vs 2.0 premium 1350kg = 35kg/ 25kg - 16" rim / 17" rim - fabric / leather - less accessories / more accessories - no bodykit / with bodykit Difference between 2010 Forte 1.6EX 15" rim vs 1.6SX 17" rim kerb weight berapa? Also not much gap like others. As you can see, the difference including bodykit ain't that much difference after all. How come only Lancer GT difference so big? There is the Lancer GLS, despite with big rim + full bodykit also no where close to 1385kg. You can't explain do you? Seriously we did take initiative to check the difference.. We compare everything but in the end u told us the service manual cannot be trust la.. The website wrong info la.. We even weight the rim. 9.8kg stock inspira vs 12kg lancer GT. 2.2kg diff x4 = 8.8kg diff.. we compare inspira from website 1350kg vs 1360kg lancer gt.. 10kg diff.. But only found out website not correct. But now u blame us no take initiative go figure out the diff. We even have the part number check same. How the hell we know the only one correct is from Thailand Brochure?? Thats why we are seeking u to give us the part number for the 50kg metal bar. This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Jul 27 2013, 03:22 AM |
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 27 2013, 03:18 AM) We did ... i really doubt he knows WHAT Is 50KG...Seriously we did take initiative to check the difference.. We compare everything but in the end u told us the service manual cannot be trust la.. The website wrong info la.. We even weight the rim. 9.8kg stock inspira vs 12kg lancer GT. 2.2kg diff x4 = 8.8kg diff.. we compare inspira from website 1350kg vs 1360kg lancer gt.. 10kg diff.. But only found out website not correct. But now u blame us no take initiative go figure out the diff. We even have the part number check same. How the hell we know the only one correct is from Thailand Brochure?? Thats why we are seeking u to give us the part number for the 50kg metal bar. how heavy is it and the weight of those thing that he mentioned like you said earlier we should buy 1 GT and 1 inspira and get it to weight looser pay for both |
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1 posts Joined: Jun 2009 From: Shah Alam , Selangor . |
I would rather weigh the vios on a scale to show its lightweight and durability.
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Jul 29 2013, 11:37 PM
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115 posts Joined: Apr 2013 |
QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 27 2013, 03:18 AM) We did ... Service manual mostly would take the most common spec and its purpose is to provide you enough information to get your car service. Anything else out of it, depends whether carmaker willing to give further details. Seriously we did take initiative to check the difference.. We compare everything but in the end u told us the service manual cannot be trust la.. The website wrong info la.. We even weight the rim. 9.8kg stock inspira vs 12kg lancer GT. 2.2kg diff x4 = 8.8kg diff.. we compare inspira from website 1350kg vs 1360kg lancer gt.. 10kg diff.. But only found out website not correct. But now u blame us no take initiative go figure out the diff. We even have the part number check same. How the hell we know the only one correct is from Thailand Brochure?? Thats why we are seeking u to give us the part number for the 50kg metal bar. Your comparison is based on the newer detuned Lancer GT 2013 (probably nothing more than GLS) rather than the original Lancer GT. Mind you, the Inspira premium comes with added bodykit + larger rim at 1350kg is still 35kg lighter than Lancer GT 2007-2012. Is this good enough to spot the difference? You can check with MMC technical department on the original Lancer GT '07-'12 with kerb weight 1385kg for full details. No point you keep making noise here. |
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Jul 29 2013, 11:52 PM
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2,479 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Mars |
QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 29 2013, 11:37 PM) Service manual mostly would take the most common spec and its purpose is to provide you enough information to get your car service. Anything else out of it, depends whether carmaker willing to give further details. Erm . you ask why no WE make initiative to look at the difference ma ...Your comparison is based on the newer detuned Lancer GT 2013 (probably nothing more than GLS) rather than the original Lancer GT. Mind you, the Inspira premium comes with added bodykit + larger rim at 1350kg is still 35kg lighter than Lancer GT 2007-2012. Is this good enough to spot the difference? You can check with MMC technical department on the original Lancer GT '07-'12 with kerb weight 1385kg for full details. No point you keep making noise here. I am telling you lo .. what ever WE look at .. you says wrong ma .. mai as well ask YOU to tell us lo .. I already tell you i did a fren's car .. 2011 Lancer GT . NON INSPIRA .. is having the same MAP as an Inspira .. but ur "Source" is only saying 2013 Lancer GT is being detune ... I actually SEEN the ECU mapping (in code) .. personally and you says me wrong wor ... I cant even trust my own EYES ... so where else can we check ?? .. YOU lor ... By the way .. i am talking about FACTORY service manual ... NOT USER Service manual .. it is actually meant for MMC technician ... not consumer This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Jul 29 2013, 11:53 PM |
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Jul 30 2013, 12:01 AM
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7 posts Joined: Mar 2012 |
JayCraptor
Where da fck is my 50kg metal bar? TWIST TWIST TURN TURN till NOW osso dun hap answer BODOH!!! |
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Jul 30 2013, 12:03 AM
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7 posts Joined: Mar 2012 |
JayCraptor
u yourself said it was the Metal Bar now twist summore Where izzit??!! Wat part number? Dun have? PLEASE DIAM 7 TIT |
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