Originally Posted by W8isGR8
Here's what I've found to be the average "Hardgainer" routine, through observation, as well as personal experience.

Breakfast- none(why get up and cook when you can sleep in another 15 minutes. Staying up until 1 a.m playing Xbox really takes it's toll)

Lunch-burger/fries/soda(keep in mind, it's now been @18 hours since last meal, which was dinner the night before)

Pre-WO-nothing
Workout-decline bench press(cause you can lift more), preacher curls. Repeat 7x a week
PWO-nothing

snack- half a bag of doritos, 2 more sodas

Dinner- whatever Mom cooks(this is the only thing still keeping you alive. Otherwise you'd have scurvy and be hospitalized for malnutrition)

Pre-bed-nothing(you're too busy playing Xbox, or trying to decide which supplements are finally gonna get you "hyooge". As soon as you can afford them.)

* Although a lot of people don't like to admit it, this is what most of them normally do. I've been a prey of this routine before many, many years ago. Everybody wants to build muscle but nobody wants to get up to eat properly and lift some heavy ass wieght.

yup....kinda my diet there
juzt replace the XBox wif the PC

Chow.

This post has been edited by bata: May 12 2006, 03:21 PM

Don't worry about it. Actually, try NEVER to skip breakfast. Some of you guys have no idea how important that meal is to get you started.

wow almost same like what i do, but i always have my breakfast (otherwise make noise) normally breakfast is either wan tan mee, nasi lemak, or pan mee, or yee mee............

agree agree The only they are alive because they still can eat their mum's cook dinner. Other than that, like my friend, he drink cola for dinner Those who are luckily can live through it, those unluckily a bit, will get disease like me, kidney stone sh*t happened to me few years back.

i am a hardgainer. but i take proper meals.
1. breakfast: organics + soya bean(last time) and milk (UHT or powder, sometimes plus awesome mass protein) and eggs (1~2) and 4X slices bread (butter,kaya,tuna) + banana. additional: vitamin C + cod liver oil pill vit B + E.

2. Lunch: mostly rice/mee + meat (eat outside)

3. Tea break: Breads/cakes + plain water/milk

4. Dinner: Mama's cookings- vege, rice, meat bla bla...

5. Supper: if outside Milo Peng + Mee (seldom supper outside), at home milo+milk powder + bread.

PreWO: Milk + protein shake + light meals (bread+tuna) + banana (if got stock )

postWO: Milk/water + Protein

Sleep at least 6-7 hours (improving on this). Hate sodas...
and, i am still hard to gain mass. underweight. lol...one side note, i shit at least 3 times per day.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: May 14 2006, 06:56 PM

I can see you're making an effort, but it's not enough. It's not even 1/5th of what i eat. I'm telling you bro, bodybuilding is 70% diet and 30% the rest.

3 times a day ?
It seems your gastrointestinal tract is working so efficiently...

@ darklight, for a metabolism high guy... what is their recommended diet ? any tips and advices ?

Well.... I eat every 3 hours. I don't eliminate carbs from my diet. I have lots of carbs actually but i do nutrient timing where i consume the majority of my carbs in the early half of the day and PWO, and protein and healthy fat at night.

---------------------> And no, I don't take Herbalife.

Gained from 64-68KG's now. Fat level hasn't increased, still about the same. Grew a bit in size, but dropped because of some inconsistencies. And I still say "FLICK OFF" herbalife. And don't some fool come here and tell me "Take herbalife and you'll be consistently hard"

It's all about eating, and I followed darklight's advice.

Well, i met pizzaboy in person. We have trained together a few times and he's asked me a lot about diet and all that. He's been pretty receptive and he seems to have potential. 'Nuff said. And no, i didn't tell him to take Herbalife.

darklight ar..if u go One utama arcade there play the boxing machine

the highest u can punch how many score?

I dunno. I ain't a violent person. I like making love, not war.

body building is not fully strenght building, see bruce lee, skinny like plank and also some shaolin monk got qi one.

yeah, i know must take meals frequently...but since i'm workin, it is hard to take more meals during office hours. lol...what is considered high cab? will it be as heaty as protein? i need to drink lots of water. lol...

Just remember this bro. Whenever you take more protein, compensate by increasing your water intake. Don't listen to all the bullcrap about high protein diets giving you kidney stones and all that. It was because of insufficient water. I know some US natural pro bb competitors who take 400 ++ grams of protein a day and they're fine. Heck, i take about 350 grams of protein per day, even more sometimes.
High carb is relative. You've gotta measure that yourself. It depends on your caloric requirements where other factors such as muscle mass, bodyweight all play a role in determining your carb intake.

And i understand it's hard to get the extra meal in when you're working but lemme tell ya, it's pretty easy. Liquid meals man. The blender is your best friend. Put in oats, milk, etc. What's the problem right?

Good luck.

This post has been edited by darklight79: May 15 2006, 12:55 PM

Yeah. Exactly! There's a difference between training for hypertrophy and training for strength, hence the huge differences in the training philosophies of powerlifters and bodybuilders.

yeah i know. but my working condition (i work in controlled environment) dun allow me to go in and out to take meals. lol...not even drinks. thats why i take less protein now. cos cant increase my water intake. hahaha...but during off day can la. drink like hell...

aiyo...another obstacle to get big. argghh...

darklight79, am wondering, what's your profession?

Check your pm. Wow dude. How and where in the world did you manage to get those pics?? Saw that url at your sig!