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post Aug 10 2007, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 10 2007, 05:59 PM)
yeah, agree with you. But having a fire extinguisher in your car is not a bad idea at all  smile.gif
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Yep...those small fire extinguisher should be sufficient. Just remember to check expiry date and change it reqularly. It doesn't cost a lot. Last time saw some....where can i buy those things? Brothers shop got ar? Tomolo might go to Brother's at Kelana Jaya for shopping...smile.gif

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post Aug 11 2007, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Aug 11 2007, 02:03 AM)
tomorow morning lah. i didn't got time to checkit out. yeahmaybe that salesman got desperate or maybe my negotiation skill works. anyway when u buy that savvy, what else did u get. he offers me smart tag and a tinted. anything else?
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I get from PE Mutiara Damansara. Standar-ler, smart tag, tint voucher, flash light and i want the wind visor(he offer cheap plak steering lock, i dun wan).
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post Aug 13 2007, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Aug 13 2007, 03:18 AM)
Sorry for the late reply. my connection here very suxx. it's 3 am i guess now the line got better. i wish i could have to to go to TM point to make verbal complaints. anyway. sms i got is from a confused salesman from they way they say it. they say he didn't read the memo saying there's no discount for lite. so iguess lite is on the same price if not many ppl will get hurt badly. anyway that's all i got to say lo. ah free gift. wish i could oso ask for the same items you got there. anyway i heard savvy will reduce some more after gen2 sean came out. hmmmm
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Yar-loh, doesn't makes sense. Just introduce new lite model and discount immediately?? Then they should have just sell it at 30K to begin with.

Anyway, i don't think there'll be price drop for Savvy Lite even after Persona came out. Only possible is that M-line and H-Line savvy will be sell for 3K cheaper as permanent price.

Next year, when BLM 1.3 came out, i suspect there'll be further drop for Savvy.

Anyway, it's good that the BLM 1.3 will be based on a modified Savvy platform. This could translate to common parts for both platform (except engine and gear). If BLM 1.3 sells decently, then there'll be more economy of scale for this platform, which in turns translate to cheaper parts, more 3rd party parts etc.

Looks like savvy will be here to stay for a while hopefully.

Damn...dunno how many more days i have to wait for my Savvy....yesterday went to Brothers in Kelana Jaya...wah...damn big the place...other than main HQ, there's also 2 branches of Brothers along the same road just for ICE and other stuff.

Too bad i can't find any Volkswagon logo emblem...only got thundercats and mitsubishi emblem...anyway, not enough time to really browse the place yesterday.



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post Aug 13 2007, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Nel @ Aug 13 2007, 09:46 AM)
Guys, thinking of get Savvy M-Line seems like you said no discount on the l-line. and M-Line already have something on it~ and no rush to put additional things like Sound system, bodykits and etc.  but then financially may not allow me to get the M-Line, so i am thinking of looking for Star news ~ ar~~ only 5-6 used savvy for sell, so if i want to buy the 2nd hand one, just need your all help ! what should i check for that 2nd hand one ??? Manual gear box.  will have oil cell leak ?? or un smooth on the crash ? or any freaky sound come out from the engine ?? this just what i heard from the workshop sometime old car has such problem.  if i can found a Savvy which is just overhall !ha~ then no need to worry too much lO~ hehe
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I think a few things you'll need to do:
(1) Change to 14" rims. Old cars come with 15" rims which has some problem with the brakes due to some "freeplay" gap...don't ask me. I don't understand, but all new Savvy comes with 14" rims....that should tell you something.

(2) Check the ignition coil connector got broken/burnt or not. Maybe u need to go to SC and ask mechanic to do it..but careful...lots of mechanic dunno how to take out the ignition coil connector. Must twist and turn, cannot simply pull out. Some people reported the ignition coil problems ARE caused by incompetent mechanics who don't know how to pull the connector when changing spark plugs and broke the thing as a result.

(3) No AMT please.

(4) Standard stuff to check...engine oil leak, etc...ask ur mechanic.

(5) Test drive and check for jerkiness which could indicates ignition coil problem or throttle body dirty(which can be clean easily).

(6) Preferably get one with full SC service records.

I don't think anyone will wanna overhaul their Savvy since still new engine...2 years+....unless got serious problem....sweat.gif.

Gee....i sound like Savvy expert eventhough i dun even have the car yet....i hope i dun give wrong info.

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post Aug 13 2007, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 13 2007, 03:20 PM)
The point is who created and own the patented design.

I watched Chow Yun Fatt's The Corruptor last night..to my surprise the sound effect of cars collided with another car is similar with the one found in The Bourne Identity's car chasing scene, Denzel Washington's Man on Fire and the most underatted PC game - Operation Flashpoint when battle tanks and vehicles collide...

Another sound effect of man screaming when falling down - an elf soldier falls down screaming from the wall in LOTR: The Two  Towers and a Stormtrooper did the same thing in  Star War: EP IV.

It'd normal when they outsourced one of the component to other party and those films were still considered Hollywood...Savvy is the real national car patented and design wholly own by Malaysians unlike some other fake national car maker.
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Haiyo...stop the P2 bashing already lar. What "fake" national car, "real" national car. Who gives a shit-te. As long as it's good car, good price, minimal problems, i don't care if Martians make them. All the better. And also please stop with your anti-japanese sentiment already...very annoying.
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By the way, clone PCs are also national PCs, coz it's assembled in LowYat Plaza, eventhough it has taiwanese mobo, Israel CPU design, china made components, US GPU, Penang assembled CPU and RAM made in Mexico or some other obscrue South America country nobody heard of.

It's made in LowYat Plaza. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 13 2007, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Benjamin1213 @ Aug 13 2007, 06:28 PM)
@matrix

Have you got your car?Hmm what did your salesman give you in extra?

Myself still waiting for loan to be approve.My SA only give free tint.=/
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Me free tint pun tadak. Only tint voucher for dunno what brand. Anyway, i don't intend to use their free tint coz usually it's el-cheapo tint...probably won't feel much difference with or without.

The SA only give me wind visor, smart tag, torch light and tint voucher which i think will throw away.


Added on August 13, 2007, 8:00 pm
QUOTE(peYno @ Aug 13 2007, 07:00 PM)
Matrix.. we hv few members (family man) in Savoc forum owning Savvy and myvi.. mostly, Husband prefer  a Savvy, wife drives Myvi... i dont know why..
maybe after u get ur savvy, drive both car, then you will get the answer
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Easy. Myvi has light steering wheel (fully power steering, Savvy is some sorta hydralic steering which feels heavier), larger space, easier clutch. It's very simple to see why ladies will like Myvi better.

Both car has differrent driving experience....which is one of the reason why i opt for Savvy instead of Viva..coz Viva is like driving an inferior Myvi. Driving a Savvy is a different experience.

Can't wait ...ooohh...SA haven't call me yet. Hopefully he'll call me tomorrow...i still wonder why the Savvy haven't reach Mutiara showroom yet.....should have loads of ex-stock mah!!!


Added on August 13, 2007, 8:03 pm
QUOTE(renesisx @ Aug 13 2007, 07:46 PM)
my fren bought new savvy few month ago..got 5k discount..its bcoz he's 1 of the shareholder..  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Major shareholder? Or own 1 lot of share in Proton?? Haiya...if like that, next time i buy 1 lot of Proton before I buy a Proton car!!!

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post Aug 14 2007, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 14 2007, 11:17 AM)
The Proton bashers are more annoying with their double standard attitude and hypocrisy.

Checkout Indonesia's Daihatisu's website, among all the thing Myvi is Daihatisu Sirion! No pride in that.
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Common knowledge ler...the Myvi is based on Daihatsu Sirion/ Toyota Passo Boon. Although there were contradicting reports that P2 were actually involved for the R&D for the Myvi. It doesn't matter. Myvi is a good car for it's price. What's wrong with Japanese cars? Toyota is not the #1 car maker in the world for nothing.

As for "pride"....i don't think our country has anything to be proud of...Twin Towers...build by Japanese and Koreans? NEP policies after 50 years...useless Malaysia BODOH spirit..(climb north pole lar, space tourist, biggest roti canai, biggest flag pole (but very small brains)..etc etc.... .and Proton couldn't survive without a tongkat.....corrupted goverment......open racist and oppression of minority continues...

What is there to be proud of?

Anyway, dun wanna talk about this in here. Best left to discuss things like "pride" in RWI.

PS: Btw, there's some good rumours that the Savvy chassis was actually designed by some Korean ex-Daewood enginneers....

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post Aug 14 2007, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 14 2007, 11:44 AM)
The fact is Proton desgined the cars themselves from ground up.at least they PROVED a point we can do it even if they gonna gone bust. Better at least do something special before we all die for example.

How superficial if you don't want to take seriously what is it underneath. Like an ignorant pretty and dumb pretty girl. Like you would making Evo out of Waja - no essence at all, nothing, no soul you would say.

.racist policies? everyone's talking about 13 may, but why didn't they talk about 10,11,12 may which caused 13 may..
If government's racist they wouldn't have been vernacular stream schools, the only one kind in the world where the minorities could enjoy the privilege, virtually control all SME business. I have many things to say but this is out of topic already. Some people can't see the good things from the bad.
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May 13th?? Fuiyo, forget May 13th.(And do you even know what actually happened? All the things that leads to May13th is a conspiracy.). Look at the situation NOW. Oppression continues except that all these things can;t be reported in the media. As for the school, obviously our gov isn't supporting chinese/tamil school enough. All the chinese school have to depend on private funds to survive, otherwise if depends on government, all of them closed shop long time ago. Otherwise, there won't be a school in such pathetic condition that a teacher have to fell from the broken floor on the 1st floor and die. There is also serious lack of chinese school not proportion to demand and our gov is systematically shutting it down. If you don't believe me, just go out and do some real research. Don't just read Star, NST and Nanyang Siang Pau.

SME? LOL. SME is chicken feed already. Who's in control of the big corporations? Petronas, MAS, Proton, etc?
Also, since PL take over, things has even been more rigid regarding a lot of policies related to bumis equity. It was more flexible during Tun's time...

Once you become big enough and profitable enough, the cronies will come and makan ur company. Look at Boon Siew Honda.

Also, remember there's used to be loads of buses company in KL? Len Seng, Foh Hup, etc etc, (forgot the names)...all have been forced out of business systematically because they are not given new license....and in the end u know who take over the control of public buses now.

These are just a few examples. There are many things happening behing the scenes the public are not aware of. That's why people CAN'T SEE THE REAL SHITTY THINGS.

Ok, enuff of these crap. It makes my blood boils.

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post Aug 14 2007, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Aug 14 2007, 01:45 PM)
shifted at 6000 RPM. not high enough? savvy redline begin at 6000, neo is 6200, though there are pictures of neo campro hitting 7000. but still, the myvi outran the savvy.
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You're driving a Savvy? smile.gif

Wah...wanna kill ur car fast meh...shift at 6000rpm...I've never gone more than 4000rpm with my Myvi...must sayang mah... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2007, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Aug 14 2007, 02:06 PM)
4th gear @ 6000rpm just before i shifted to 5th. then he overtook from the left.
wasn't sure how fast i was going though. only concentrated on other traffic, that myvi and the RPM meter.
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Myvi is suprisingly torquey at 5th gear after 3000rpm. I can easily overtake a lot of cars easily and can feel lots of acceleration.

Maybe if you have change gear earlier, might perform better?


Can't wait for my Savvy and see how it feels.

Anyway, don't race on highway/roads. Drive safely.
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post Aug 14 2007, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pro-MX @ Aug 14 2007, 02:35 PM)
ahh ic....at 4th gear 6000RPM should be around 160KM/H....MYVI has better pick up i guess but u definitely will pwn MYVI when it comes to handling  smile.gif
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If Rusty is at 160km/h...then the Myvi????

Hmmm....Rusty, you sure it was a Myvi ah? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 14 2007, 02:02 PM)
Just a little bit of reduction doesn't mean they gonna wipe out the Chinese business. Creating a new piece of pie is harder than sharing one. New boutiques and shops at Dataran Pahlawan, Melaka are 100% own by chinese, Chinese start ups getting grants and land at MITC industrial zone..How much do you need? We have greater clout than we thought actually...Dun tell me there's isn't single non bumi bus company in wilayah..most gone out of business is becos they didn't reform their chinaman-type management and mindset.

Sometimes a handicap is one's strongest point.

Nough said.
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Proton can take tongkat for 22 years. Why cannot help out china-man company for a few years to reform?? Wake up and smell the burnt rubber.


Added on August 14, 2007, 5:25 pm
QUOTE(Nel @ Aug 14 2007, 10:19 AM)
Matrix, they still assembling your savvy, dont push them or else when they panic, they will forgot to lock each part a nut on your savvy body then your Proton Savvy become Proton Mati o~

Hmmm so all is about the ignition coil lo~~ i see. anyway i will check that ~ thanks a lot dude !!
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Don't scare me like that ler!! sweat.gif

Anyway, SMSed my SA today, replied something about waiting for Custom to feedback to Bank and Insurance before can register?? Why does it needs Custom pulak? I thought this is made in Malaysia car!!! blink.gif

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post Aug 14 2007, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 14 2007, 05:34 PM)
LOL.. the funniest excuse i ever read  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

So still no savvy?
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Yeah....but i don't wanna push him...otherwise he loose some screws in my Savvy...sweat.gif

Or maybe my Savvy import from UK wan...coz got too many stock over there they wanna get rid??? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 14 2007, 05:49 PM)
my advice is to keep calling him. This happened to me also... at first i was promised i will get the car in one week time because got stock... finally i got my Savvy 3 weeks later  mad.gif  mad.gif
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I think 3 weeks standard process, more than that not acceptable for ex-stock cars! The SA told me is they need to clear Sales Tax with the custom. I suppose it should be a fast process kua...but u know ler, Malaysia boleh...5 minutes job of stamping a document can turn into a whole week proccess.

I sure hope i can get the car by this Friday so that i can ride it this weekend.


Added on August 14, 2007, 8:11 pm
QUOTE(Nel @ Aug 14 2007, 05:49 PM)
Hahaha~ Matrix you Savvy is imported woh!! and have some English smell when you open the door woh !!! good on you mate !!  ! haha
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Maybe got English strawberries inside also...LOL...local strawberries all sour one...not like those u can find in UK, damn sweet and tasty!

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post Aug 15 2007, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Benjamin1213 @ Aug 14 2007, 11:49 PM)
Waoh nice white savvy!Thanks for sharing...

SA called me today said tht my loan was approved!yay!Now just got to complete the downpayment then registration can be done.Most probally will get on thursday or friday.
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Your downpayment by bank draft or cheque? I paid by cheque, thus delayed for another 3 working days or so.

Where did you get your car? Which branch/dealer?
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QUOTE(peYno @ Aug 14 2007, 08:29 PM)
happy riding ..
If compared to Myvi, i was thinking savvy not suitable for long journey (4 adults) and good for city driving only.. it was a mistake.. good ala bucket seat design ,nice seat driving position (not  feel like driving a van ), very stable at high speed or highway speed(110~140km/h)-not feel like driving  a small car /other typical japs K-car.. it makes u  smiling while driving a savvy for long journey at hiway... believe me
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Long journey with 4 adults...can, but where to put luggage dude?? Extra space in a bigger car will come in extremely useful. Even the space in my Myvi is just enough only when i made some long journey a few months ago. For tall people, sit at the back(Savvy) sure leg cramp...i don't think i wanna sit behind in the Savvy for long journey. At least, with Myvi, i can sit behind comfortably with loads of leg rooms to spare...and my head not hitting ceiling. IMO, the savvy can only cater for 2 normal to tall person in front, 2 short person behind...otherwise, legs sure cramp.

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Aug 15 2007, 12:50 PM)
the seats of the savvy is not bucket enough, IMHO (if compared to the neo laugh.gif tongue.gif )
and you also missed out engine noise. bearing a 1.15L displacement and a rather close gearbox, cruising beyond 3500 rpm can be a discomfort.
traveling long journey doesn't mean have to carry luggage mah laugh.gif tongue.gif
you are right about carrying capacity though. myvi is a much bigger car compared to the savvy.
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If go back hometown no need lor (but i don't have hometown and my wife's hometown can't be reach by land...LOL). But if you go vacation sure u need luggage mah! I drove to Singapore about 2 months ago in my Myvi.Quiet satisfied with it. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(Benjamin1213 @ Aug 15 2007, 02:50 PM)
Im getting the M-Line.Placed my order on the 8th of August. biggrin.gif
Cheque payment.Yeah the SA did told me that,he says most probally by this friday or next monday.

I got my car from Taipan,USJ Focus Setup Sdn.Bhd
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That's quite fast wor! I've booked on 29th July!!!! Why branch slower than dealer?? Hmmmm....

But let's see whether ur SA can keep promise or not or just blowing hot air.

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QUOTE(Nel @ Aug 15 2007, 05:40 PM)
Oh yes, forgot to ask the engine is it noisy ? i mean when you are driving with air-con open mute the sound will the engine sound louder then air-con sound?? better like those Camry car, really cannot hear the sound while driving.  by the way Savvy got imobillizer or not ??
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Fuiyo...i also want like that... doh.gif

You can test drive VIVAs since there's VIVAs in showroom everywhere and compare.
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QUOTE(peYno @ Aug 15 2007, 07:16 PM)
i tend to disagree
Comfort is not all about spaciousness.. handling and ride quality do count a lot too.
u can feel savvy seat cushion quality much better than "hard cushion" on myvi.. no point having extra legs room and head clearance but no Rear Headrest ( make ur neck painful ooo) , bumpy ride and hard cushion...

if u think comfort= spaciouness,
then NISSAN VANATTE VAN will be the answer... extra legs room and tall roof(not hitting ceiling)

prrrfthhhh biggrin.gif
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1) Shut up with your prrth already. It ain't cool. It's moronic. You sounds like Apek who sits cangkuk with his leg on the chair and spit everywhere.

2) The cushion on Myvi is not that hard. A good mattress is actually hard and good for your back. Hard mattress is more expensive than cheap soft mattress. (But in this case, both the Savvy and Myvi seats are nice in their own way. It's just different).

3) No point having extra leg room and head room? Yeah right... doh.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif ..maybe not needed for shorties kua.. tongue.gif

4) I don't miss the rear HeadRest. I don't think my STD Savvy has one anyway.

5) Compare Myvi with a Van?? Why don't you compare it with a Bus?? doh.gif Or maybe you should compare Savvy with a real Lotus?? doh.gif

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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Aug 16 2007, 12:52 AM)
hm.. did anyone here recieved thier lite already?


Added on August 16, 2007, 12:53 amhm.. did anyone here recieved thier lite already?
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I don't think anyone here book a lite ler?

Benjamin's is a STD, mine is STD also. You're also waiting right?

Gonna bug my SA again today...already Thursday!!! Damn.... mad.gif


Added on August 16, 2007, 9:09 am
QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Aug 16 2007, 12:52 AM)
hm.. did anyone here recieved thier lite already?


Added on August 16, 2007, 12:53 amhm.. did anyone here recieved thier lite already?
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I don't think anyone here book a lite ler?

Benjamin's is a STD, mine is STD also. You're also waiting right?

Gonna bug my SA again today...already Thursday!!! Damn.... mad.gif


Added on August 16, 2007, 11:32 amCalled my SA this morning...what waiting for reply ler, system is via online lah, dunno what the heck he's talking.

If i don't get my car tomorrow, someone's gonna pay....mad.gif

The Mad and the Furious™!!!

When i took my Myvi, i get chased by P2 SA to get the car out quickly instead of the other way round!!


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