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post Aug 1 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Aug 1 2013, 11:19 AM)
1. Preferred Brand: Any
2. Budget: RM3k - RM4k
3. Usage: Programming, engineering software, Full HD movie
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: Any
5. Must-have feature: At least 2 USB3, Full HD, Haswell, at least 2 years warranty
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Warranty period could be extended to 2 years easily if standard warranty for a particular model is 1 year (~ RM150).
Some of the models below seems to tilt toward gaming, but the GPU is useful if your engineering software utilise CUDA or if you do any 3D modelling.

Acer
V7-582PG-74508G52k, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M + 24GB mSATA + 500GB HDD + (1920x1080 IPS; touch)@RM3399, 8GB, W8

Asus
N550JV-CN077H, i7-4702MQ + Nvidia GT750M + (1920x1080; IPS matte) + Bluray@RM3699[2.7kg], 4GB, 1TB, W8, backlit keyboard

Lenovo
Y510p i7-4700MQ + GT750m(GDDR5)/Intel HD4600 + (1920x1080)@TBA, 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

MSI
GE60-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3599,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB

www.illegear.com
Illegear RE-15, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080;matte)@RM3599[Onkyo], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), FreeDOS [CPU Options: i7-4700MQ - i7-4900MQ]
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2613184
Hari Raya promotion is forthcoming for illegear.

Prices are RSP, negotiable.

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Aug 1 2013, 01:36 PM)
How many USB3 port does Acer V7-582PG-74508G52k has?
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iinm, 1.
It's skinny and don't have many port, only HDMI, 2 USB2.0. Weight ~ 2.2kg.

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QUOTE(lemonish @ Aug 2 2013, 02:52 AM)
Wao thats quite a difference in price tongue.gif
yeah I was wondering for games like GTA IV (in full detail)
Yeah because I've read (somewhere) that even some modern games are not playable in full detail for GT750M.

Just wondering,
for a desktop GC,
which has the same performance with this GT750M? 
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GTAIV is notorious for being CPU capped.

GTX550Ti or GTX650 will outperform GTX750M by ~ 10-30% (sad isn't it tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(lulusantos @ Aug 1 2013, 05:42 PM)
I recently found a laptop Inspiron 14r with

-4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4500U processor (4M Cache, 1.8 GHz, GT750M 2GB)
RM2699 - 1 year warranty.

Adding up three year warranty , the price might shoot up to Y410p price.

Between the dell and lenovo , which tn screen is consider better?

Dell Inspiron 14r with

-4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4500U processor (4M Cache, 1.8 GHz, GT750M 2GB)

One more question, how's the battery life for this? I can't find any info from the web. tq.

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Are you sure this is local set? Don't see it on Dell Malaysia website hmm.gif

You can't compare screen panel brand to brand, has to compare model to model (and even that may not be right as even for same model brand may change panel used during production run tongue.gif )

Current TN panel in Y500 Malaysia local set is pretty lousy. Hopefully the panel on the Y510P will be better rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(aREfIXed @ Aug 2 2013, 01:18 AM)
if u could pick one...which is the best?..
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All serve your usage requirement.
Y510p is cheapest (RSP RM3099)
N550JV has the best screen (standard spec), but RE-15 can be customised with an amazing screen. In fact, RE-15 can be customised, period smile.gif

If I really has to choose, I will go for RE-15 (I really like that NTSC 95% gamut screen tongue.gif ).
But I think if you go with Y510p, you will have the most budget left to go for a 256G SSD (~ RM600) (swap out the HDD). SSD really make a huge difference in responsiveness.
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QUOTE(adam20 @ Aug 1 2013, 06:16 PM)
1. Preferred Brand : Any
2. Budget : RM 1.3k or less
3. Usage : home usage ( skype, surfnet and casual gaming(plant vs zombies))
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14 or 15 will be fine.
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Dell
Inspiron 14-3421, B997 + Intel HD@RM1199[1.99kg], Win8SL, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), 4-cell
Inspiron 14-3421, i3-3217U + Intel HD4000@RM1399[1.99kg], Win8SL, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), 4-cell

HP
Pavilion Sleekbook 14-b010TU, B987 + Intel HD@RM1399, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8

Lenovo
G480, Pentium 2020 + Intel HD@RM1399, 2GB, 500GB, W8

Samsung
NP370R4E, B997 + Intel HD@RM1399, 2GB, 500GB, W8

Prices are RSP, negotiable a bit.
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QUOTE(hasif63 @ Aug 1 2013, 11:51 PM)
Hi there guys.. Need some recommendations here.

1. Preferred Brand : Dell
2. Budget: 2k-2.4k
3. Usage: Assignments (Estate Management), Watch Movies, Casual Photoshopping, Light gaming (RA2, maybe?)
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14inch / 15inch

I've narrowed down two of my most probable choices, which are the Dell Inspiron 14R(5437) and 15R (5537).

Both are
-powered by intel i3-4010u haswell
-has Intel 4400HD graphics
-has 6 cell (65Whr) batteries
-has same resolution, 1366x768

But 14R has
-touchscreen
-OS media kit

I've specced both at the dell website and the 15R actually came cheaper at RM2088 compared to 14R which costs RM2477.

Which of the two will be a better buy?
Which of the two will have better battery life?
Is the touchscreen on the 14R really worth it?
The OS media kit, is it a necessity?

Lastly, can i configure my laptop at the Dell Concept store at lowyat plaza? I don't have the confidence of ordering my lappies online

Sorry for the looong post  sweat.gif. Your feedback is much appreciated guys, thanks  thumbup.gif
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Inspiron 14R, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400 + (1366x768;touch)@RM1988 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8 , 6 cell
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...s=dhs&cs=mydhs1

Inspiron 15R, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400@RM1599 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8 , 6 cell
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...s=dhs&cs=mydhs1

How do you get to the prices you mentioned?

If you only want 14", 14R also has a no-touch screen option (but only 4 cell battery): (if the customisation option is not there for 6 cell, chat with Dell Sale and see if they can help to upgrade it to 6 cell)
Inspiron 14R, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400 + @RM1549 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8 , 4 cell
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...s=dhs&cs=mydhs1

If you don't need touchscreen, go for the cheaper option of course smile.gif
if both 15R and 14R has the same capacity battery, 14R will have slightly better battery running time (smaller screen)
W8 is perfectly usable without touchscreen. If you want to try touchscreen, make sure you are perfectly comfortable with the strength of the hinge. Wobbly screen is very annoying.
OS media kit - If you intend to re-install OS later, you absolutely need it. It is free from Dell, take it. For 15R, you can actually ask for it, they will give it to you for free as well.

Dell Concept Store in LYP? masih ada ke? hmm.gif

Just wipe out your credit card, no worries laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Dell Online is safe.
Customise, negotiate (online chat, must do otherwise you miss out discount / goodies), pay by credit card. Dell will update you on expected delivery time (you can track it yourself online), and deliver to your doorstep.

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Aug 2 2013, 11:55 AM)
Will Raya affect Dell business hour?
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Dell online will be open for taking orders. Online chat will be there as per usual hours. Delivery time may get impact due to non-biz day.

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Aug 2 2013, 12:00 PM)
Yeah, I mean delivery. Well, Poslaju closed since 3 to 11 August while Raya suppose be around 8 or 9 August, I just wonder if Dell apply the same too. Hmmm...
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Dell don't use Poslaju lah tongue.gif
Anyway, when you order, Dell will provide an estimate delivery time.

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Aug 2 2013, 11:44 AM)
Is there any other brand that provide 0% interest for installment? But warranty wise, I think more to Inspiron 14R. Other spec are not that necessary. BTW, touch screen and non touch screen use different type of screen right? Hmmm...

BTW, is there any forumer here that can help us to get lower price for Dell product? Hehe...
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HP, by ordering online or phone order.

Yes, different screen panel.

Viper88. Look for his thread at garage sales. But unless your order is of big RM, saving is not much.
Order online and negotiate yourself lah smile.gif
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Aug 2 2013, 12:09 PM)
No choice. Pospelanpelan my only choice. tongue.gif I guess will give a call to Dell to confirm again. Based on the estimated, likely 1 week. I hope other can share how long Dell took to send the laptop.
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depends on model (some models are faster, some are slower).
Btw, whatever days that the call centre people tell you is pretty much "useless" tongue.gif They can't do much to make it faster or slower laugh.gif What you see on order status screen is what you get.
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Aug 2 2013, 12:32 PM)
Just contacted Dell and this women sound promising. Deliver by next week or full refund because that particular model available locally. But only one model and one color available. The rest need to wait 7-10 working days. Can be trust since you said "useless".  hmm.gif
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That kind of statement is ok. Just don't buy into "I will try to make it faster ... " laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hasif63 @ Aug 2 2013, 02:54 PM)
Answers in bold  smile.gif
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Pro support - apparently only RM30 difference from basic support hmm.gif You probably won't need the software support. 24x7 phone support is useful if you can't wait. The good thing is Pro support assure you the technician will be there NBD, whereas Basic is 1-2 BD (but typically next day).

Accidental damage - it's quite cheap for RM150(?) extra. If user are hamfist type of person, worth it.

But you do realise you just add 25% (14R) or 30% (15R) to the cost of the laptop tongue.gif

Generally, strongly encourage buyers to get as long period warranty cover as they can afford. Whether accidental coverage is needed, has to weight cost/benefit hmm.gif

The difference in battery running time is not substantial (screen do drain a lot of power, but difference in screen surface area between 14" and 15" is not that big). In browsing, the GPU does not kick in at all (which leads to the pretty good battery running time). Do note some other assumption on those test on battery running time (i.e. power profile, screen brightness, etc).
Accounting course - yup, definitely need numpad biggrin.gif

Dell do accept direct banking. They will give you the banking account details, you bank in, then scan the bank-in slip to them for confirmation.

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Aug 2 2013, 12:43 PM)
Faster in??? laugh.gif I guess will put some order then. Quite surprised when Dell sell notebook and laptop bag separately.
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Make sure you online chat. Sometime Dell will throw in some bag for free smile.gif
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QUOTE(lulusantos @ Aug 2 2013, 02:23 PM)
I'm sure it's the local set. I found it at the dell malaysia site. It's their new haswell refresh.

This is the e-value code :  W510706MY14MW8
But I'm worry dual-core might not serve me that well for years to come.

Maybe Y410/510p might be a better investment.
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Yes, found it tongue.gif Thanks thumbup.gif

Yup, Y410p definitely has more powerful CPU. (also leads to a "hot" laptop tongue.gif )
But may I know what is your usage for the laptop?
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QUOTE(lulusantos @ Aug 2 2013, 04:46 PM)
To be honest, I'm getting the laptop for

-college assignment (computer engineering)
-games ( dota2 and football manager 2013)
-browsing + entertainment

I know quad core is overkill for me but I'm planning to use the laptop for 4-5 years.
I'm having this dilemma of just a few hundred more im getting a better spec.
2.5k I get dual core, add a bit 3k i get quad core + fhd, 3.5k i get re-15 ... zzzz

arghh....
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Quad core probably, as you said, is overkill smile.gif
That Haswell i7 ULT is not that bad (also help on battery running time and heat profile ... )
But I know FHD is hard to resist.
If you go with FHD, I will rather go with Y510p and use the money to get SATA SSD if budget is tight (rather than go with RE-15, which has better build ... )
The difference between Y410p and Y510p is a no brainer, definitely Y510p (rm200 for FHD screen). (Just need to wait 2 more weeks for Y510p local set).

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QUOTE(@skyhawk@ @ Aug 2 2013, 05:59 PM)
owh...thanx a lot for ur feedback and suggesion bro...appreciate dat.. smile.gif
yeah, i already explained to him about de engineering software need i7 not ULV..but is it necessary to hav good gpu? coz he only play dota 2 and pes..intel hd4000 can handle dota 2 smoothly rght?
he said wanna buy xps pro 13, is it suitable for all his needs?

de illegear laptop seems a good choice but no warranty provided in uk.. sweat.gif

about de MBP, is it really easy to run de engineering software through bootcamp? can install pirate software? hmm.gif
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The good GPU is for the 3D modelling stuff in the engineering software he is going to use smile.gif
HD4000 can handle Dota2 only in low details setting in FHD screen.

Dell XPS 13 is an ultrabook. Even with Haswell ULT (duo core), and better IGPU (depend on CPU, could be HD4400/4600/5000), maybe a bit under-powered for engineering software.

He is a guy right? Why so concern about weight? hmm.gif

Bootcamp is not pirate tongue.gif It is fully supported by Apple. You just need to get a copy of Win OS (Only the 2011 or newer MBP support W8. W7 should be no problem in general)
Basically bootcamp allow MBP users to dual-boot, selecting which OS to run at start-up. Once you boot into Win OS, it is just another "Wintel" laptop laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cheemm @ Aug 2 2013, 05:37 PM)
hey guys,

any suggestion give to me to choosing between these 2 laptops:

1. Lenovo G400s 59375144
2. Toshiba L840 1056XR

Need a strong wifi adapter because need to bring laptop here and there to surf net.

Any different between NVidia GT720M 2GB and AMD HD7670M 2GB?
Thanks very much for your help~~
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QUOTE(devour @ Aug 2 2013, 06:05 PM)
HD 7670m slightly better then GT 720M, however both are middle class graphics card for laptops, able to handle most of the games and mid --low setting  only
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QUOTE(blueheaven @ Aug 2 2013, 06:17 PM)
Lenovo looks alot sexier than that Toshiba.
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Sexy or not is very subjective lah tongue.gif
But for that price range, can also consider this:
Dell
Inspiron 14R, i5-4200U + GT740M @RM1999 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8 , 6 cell
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QUOTE(devour @ Aug 2 2013, 06:32 PM)
why dell like make the Inspiron fat and square, good looking ?  sweat.gif
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don't know lah laugh.gif I think the look stay the same for 3 gen already laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hasif63 @ Aug 2 2013, 06:59 PM)
i really invested in warranty because when i bought my last laptop, "the champion of overheating" compaq cq40 (with amd and radeon3450 no less) they lasted only a year. I did not think much abt warranty back then. Now, warranty is one of my main factor when purchasing a laptop. Furthermore i already factored-in the cost of warranty when i'm deciding my budget smile.gif

i see, it is possible then for me to get similar battery running time if i purchase the 15R? I mean, it has haswell on board, so i can at least expect a similar or better battery running time yes?
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Swing from 1 extreme to another? biggrin.gif
Generally, I will say Accidental Coverage is important for certain type of users:
Those who carry laptop by hand a lot (e.g. move from 1 room to another in office); like to eat and drink beside the laptop; working in hazardous area with uneven surface; butter-fingers; young children using; don't use proper laptop bag (normally ladies tongue.gif); like to bang on keyboard when frustrated laugh.gif, ....
But if you budget for it, by all means go for it. It's the best peace of mind you can get thumbup.gif

As I mentioned, the battery running time of the 15R and 14R won't differ by much smile.gif (both has Haswell right? hmm.gif )



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