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Investment SQWHERE @ KG SELAMAT SUNGAI BULOH [OWNERS' THREAD], Inner KD. Located close to MRT. By SDB.

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PAChamp
post Aug 15 2022, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 15 2022, 09:52 AM)
The question then is if a project is launched way ahead of any development infrastructure that is meant to happen; would it be detrimental on that project itself? If this enclave becomes a budget oriented one when you were sold a luxury development in the middle of factories.

What is the upside of sqwhere if the median price for projects in this area becomes markedly lower?
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It's too late for buyers who already bought. Got burnt. Hindsight is always 20/20. What i am saying is at that auction price of 300++ to 400++ psf will get you some decent rental returns of 3 to 4%. I forsee some slight upside in the near term as inflation hits. However, there are better deals out there unless you want an investment around this area with direct MRT connection.
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post Aug 15 2022, 01:16 PM

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Screwed up already. Another development with a lot of investors, not the real owners who stay.
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post Aug 16 2022, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Aug 14 2022, 09:54 PM)
Kwasa is going to introduce thousands of affordable units as well as open market projects in the near future. Sqwhere and the opposing DSara project would be outdated by the time Kwasa's commercial district develops (not to mention facing the wrong direction from where Kwasa is..)
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Yup, kwasa huge land, better future potential then this factories area. This sqwhere and dsara is a goner. Whoever touch, burnt kaw kaw. Unless you buy for own stay at dirt cheap price. But amenities is just headache. mega_shok.gif
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post Aug 16 2022, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Aug 16 2022, 06:29 AM)
Yup, kwasa huge land, better future potential then this factories area. This sqwhere and dsara is a goner. Whoever touch, burnt kaw kaw. Unless you buy for own stay at dirt cheap price. But amenities is just headache. mega_shok.gif
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I wonder if there’s any rationale to hold onto a property that has halved in value. It’s the same reason for people to walk away from loans.

So if the price floor set by the market is around half of SPA, what would happen if owners who wish to exit just sell subsale at that price rather than waiting for the Lelong process. Then does it become the new official market price?
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 16 2022, 09:45 AM)
I wonder if there’s any rationale to hold onto a property that has halved in value. It’s the same reason for people to walk away from loans.

So if the price floor set by the market is around half of SPA, what would happen if owners who wish to exit just sell subsale at that price rather than waiting for the Lelong process. Then does it become the new official market price?
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In property valuation there is a market value and there is a forced sale value. Auction price is the forced sale value which is always lower than the market value between willing buyer/willing seller. Thus auction price is not the market value as auction price comes with more risk than the normal resale market.
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post Aug 16 2022, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Aug 16 2022, 09:54 AM)
In property valuation there is a market value and there is a forced sale value. Auction price is the forced sale value which is always lower than the market value between willing buyer/willing seller. Thus auction price is not the market value as auction price comes with more risk than the normal resale market.
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Arguably all these lelongs from new developments should have minimal risk and practically be like a VP no? On the rare occasion you may find one that’s been fully furnished already then it went kaput.
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post Aug 16 2022, 11:42 AM

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Over here is not the early bird get the worm story.

It is second mouse get the cheese story.
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 16 2022, 11:21 AM)
Arguably all these lelongs from new developments should have minimal risk and practically be like a VP no? On the rare occasion you may find one that’s been fully furnished already then it went kaput.
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Risks like there are already occupants there are minimal as it is quite new (but bidders are advised to check whether the unit is empty because you really don't want the hassle to go to court to kick out the occupiers). However the risks are in the double transfer process and obtaining the state consent, plus usually for auction cases, Bank will not bear any outstanding owings like maintenance etc. and auction properties usually have thousands if not tens of thousands outstanding.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 11 2022, 12:20 PM)
Bumi lot lelong unit VS non bumi lot.
Interesting......

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Bumi lot unit sold at 348K.
Not much fight after all.
What a good catch.

Congrats to the new owner.
Double transfer process.


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QUOTE(wotpian @ Aug 16 2022, 11:42 AM)
Over here is not the early bird get the worm story.

It is second mouse get the cheese story.
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Indeed. I reckon for anyone shopping now - once you get the inkling that the project you like is not selling well just wait till developer either provides more discount or get it from auction. They can’t do the FOMO pressure tactics with so many units on hand unless you’re completely ignorant.

QUOTE(PAChamp @ Aug 16 2022, 12:27 PM)
Risks like there are already occupants there are minimal as it is quite new (but bidders are advised to check whether the unit is empty because you really don't want the hassle to go to court to kick out the occupiers). However the risks are in the double transfer process and obtaining the state consent, plus usually for auction cases, Bank will not bear any outstanding owings like maintenance etc. and auction properties usually have thousands if not tens of thousands outstanding.
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Minimal la if you’re getting a newly VP property at half it’s selling price. Down right bargain.
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post Aug 16 2022, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Aug 16 2022, 12:27 PM)
Risks like there are already occupants there are minimal as it is quite new (but bidders are advised to check whether the unit is empty because you really don't want the hassle to go to court to kick out the occupiers). However the risks are in the double transfer process and obtaining the state consent, plus usually for auction cases, Bank will not bear any outstanding owings like maintenance etc. and auction properties usually have thousands if not tens of thousands outstanding.
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No no no, @askarperang, do correct the error statements
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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Aug 16 2022, 12:27 PM)
Risks like there are already occupants there are minimal as it is quite new (but bidders are advised to check whether the unit is empty because you really don't want the hassle to go to court to kick out the occupiers). However the risks are in the double transfer process and obtaining the state consent, plus usually for auction cases, Bank will not bear any outstanding owings like maintenance etc. and auction properties usually have thousands if not tens of thousands outstanding.
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Aug 16 2022, 02:19 PM)
No no no, @askarperang, do correct the error statements
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The auction bank will cover the outstanding maintenance fees and cukai taksiran up until the auction date.
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post Aug 17 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 16 2022, 07:02 PM)
The auction bank will cover the outstanding maintenance fees and cukai taksiran up until the auction date.
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Good to know. Different banks, different properties, different terms. I have come across auction cases where Banks won't settle. How about the double transfer process? Have to pay stamp duty twice? Apply consent at your own risk?
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post Aug 17 2022, 11:01 AM

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This place the commercial lot sure gg…mana ada free public parking in front of the shop for outsiders to park and shop? Got the gorcer inside also slowly dying…to park inside for visitor and reach that maketto oso like a maze…
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post Aug 17 2022, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Aug 15 2022, 12:24 PM)
It's too late for buyers who already bought. Got burnt. Hindsight is always 20/20. What i am saying is at that auction price of 300++ to 400++ psf will get you some decent rental returns of 3 to 4%. I forsee some slight upside in the near term as inflation hits. However, there are better deals out there unless you want an investment around this area with direct MRT connection.
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You’re getting SDB build quality at this price. So at that floor price it’s a bargain. It’s likely reflecting the rental which means this is super budget for factory workers, foreign labour etc. This means this building is a goner once the own stay decide they don’t want to be in such an environment.
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 17 2022, 11:23 AM)
You’re getting SDB build quality at this price. So at that floor price it’s a bargain. It’s likely reflecting the rental which means this is super budget for factory workers, foreign labour etc. This means this building is a goner once the own stay decide they don’t want to be in such an environment.
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Really a bargain. But think still not cheap enuf for the company to rent it for factory workers & foreign labours. Usually they stay at flats or low cost flat. Like at the balakong Taming Jaya low cost flat area or above shoplots area like those shop houses. Usually bigger space, can fit more of them.

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 17 2022, 11:01 AM)
This place the commercial lot sure gg…mana ada free public parking in front of the shop for outsiders to park and shop? Got the gorcer inside also slowly dying…to park inside for visitor and reach that maketto oso like a maze…
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Actually the most headache will be the commercial & residential maintenance ratio got the Strata Property . If either one side the collection are poor, the maintenance / up keeping will be at risk. The moments lift keep breaking down, the price will further falls.


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QUOTE(nihility @ Aug 17 2022, 10:38 PM)
Actually the most headache will be the commercial & residential maintenance ratio got the Strata Property . If either one side the collection are poor, the maintenance / up keeping will be at risk. The moments lift keep breaking down, the price will further falls.
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So this would be a major risk for heavily lelonged property? They’ll keep numb about it unless it’s like 5 stones and their lifts.
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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Aug 17 2022, 10:43 AM)
Good to know. Different banks, different properties, different terms. I have come across auction cases where Banks won't settle. How about the double transfer process? Have to pay stamp duty twice? Apply consent at your own risk?
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not only that, if got private caveat you will be trouble. recently 1 auction got LHDN caveat rm100k+.
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🏡SqWhere Residence@Sungai Buloh🏡
✅Total 7 Units Auction Units & All Vacant Unit👍🏻
🚋Link Bridge to MRT🚋
🏦Bank Lelong🏦#Sqwhere #Sungaibuloh

🏡SqWhere Residence@Sungai Buloh🏡
‼🤩Buy Now & Earn RM 241k🤩‼
🎉非常值得入手🎉

‼SA-13-09‼
Built up : 980 sq.ft
Leasehold
Auction Date : 27-Oct-2021
Reserved Price : 🔥Rm 459,270🔥
Bank Value : Rm 700,000
Rental Price : Rm1600-2000

‼SA-13A-07‼
Built up : 1,442 sq.ft
Leasehold
Auction Date : 27-Oct-2021
Reserved Price : 🔥Rm 688,500🔥
Bank Value : Rm 850,000
Rental Price : Rm2400-2800

‼SA-09-02‼
Built up : 980 sq.ft
Leasehold
Auction Date : End of Oct-2021
Reserved Price : 🔥Rm 459,270🔥
Bank Value : Rm 700,000
Rental Price : Rm1600-2000

‼SA-19-06‼
Built up : 1,765 sq.ft
Leasehold
Auction Date : End of Oct-2021
Reserved Price : 🔥Rm 630,000🔥
Bank Value : Rm 960,000
Rental Price : Rm2600-3200

‼SA-10-07‼
Built up : 1,442 sq.ft
Leasehold
Auction Date : End of Oct-2021
Reserved Price : 🔥Rm 607,500🔥
Bank Value : Rm 850,000
Rental Price : Rm2400-2800

‼SA-35-10‼
Built up : 1,055 sq.ft
Leasehold
Auction Date : End of Oct-2021
Reserved Price : 🔥Rm 477,000🔥
Bank Value : Rm 700,000
Rental Price : Rm1800-2200

‼SA22-03A‼
Built up : 980 sq.ft
Leasehold
Auction Date : 22-Oct-2021
Reserved Price : 🔥Rm 560,000🔥
Bank Value : Rm 700,000
Rental Price : Rm1600-2000

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