What is the rental for a SOVO unit here?
Investment SQWHERE @ KG SELAMAT SUNGAI BULOH [OWNERS' THREAD], Inner KD. Located close to MRT. By SDB.
Investment SQWHERE @ KG SELAMAT SUNGAI BULOH [OWNERS' THREAD], Inner KD. Located close to MRT. By SDB.
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Feb 10 2022, 01:01 PM
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What is the rental for a SOVO unit here?
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Feb 10 2022, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 30 2022, 03:05 PM) Another lelong unit sold few days back from here. At least the price is stabilising... should slowly creep up from the rock bottom price. Those planning to buy under lelong better move fast.1055sqft unit. Lelong price here gradually increasing now. End of last year 2 units sold at 470K and 494K. Now lelong at 500K also got people grab straight. Single bidder won unchallenged. |
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Apr 15 2022, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 14 2022, 11:42 PM) Sqwhere already issued out title. Need to check with developer whether allow direct transfer or not. If not, it will be additional cost to buy via lelong. That 365k is dirt cheap. Cheaper than my sovo unit DSara Sentral still master title. Anyway, still got 4 active lelong units in the market: ππ§π’π: ππ-ππ-ππ, ππ₯π¨ππ€ ππ. Size: 1,055 sq ft (Type E) Auction Price: RM365,000 (Bumi Lot) Auction Date: 27th April 2021 ππ§π’π: ππ-πππ-ππ, ππ₯π¨ππ€ ππ. Size: 1,765 sq ft (Type C) Auction Price: RM915,000 Auction Date: 25th April 2022 ππ§π’π: ππ-ππ-ππ, ππ₯π¨ππ€ ππ. Size: 1,055 sq ft (Type E) Auction Price: RM414,900 (Bumi Lot) Auction Date: Pending May 2022 ππ§π’π: ππ-ππ-ππ, ππ₯π¨ππ€ ππ. Size: 1,442 sq ft (Type D) Auction Price: RM688,500 Auction Date: Pending May 2022 |
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Aug 11 2022, 12:37 PM
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Aug 11 2022, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 11 2022, 04:52 PM) So you need a property to halve in value for it to be an ok investment? How then for those who bought direct from developer? No one wants this to happen but it is what it is. The sooner the prices go up, the better for the original purchasers. Now it is a good buy. When prices recover (with Kwasa development starting) everyone benefits. |
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Aug 15 2022, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 15 2022, 09:52 AM) The question then is if a project is launched way ahead of any development infrastructure that is meant to happen; would it be detrimental on that project itself? If this enclave becomes a budget oriented one when you were sold a luxury development in the middle of factories. It's too late for buyers who already bought. Got burnt. Hindsight is always 20/20. What i am saying is at that auction price of 300++ to 400++ psf will get you some decent rental returns of 3 to 4%. I forsee some slight upside in the near term as inflation hits. However, there are better deals out there unless you want an investment around this area with direct MRT connection.What is the upside of sqwhere if the median price for projects in this area becomes markedly lower? |
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Aug 16 2022, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 16 2022, 09:45 AM) I wonder if thereβs any rationale to hold onto a property that has halved in value. Itβs the same reason for people to walk away from loans. In property valuation there is a market value and there is a forced sale value. Auction price is the forced sale value which is always lower than the market value between willing buyer/willing seller. Thus auction price is not the market value as auction price comes with more risk than the normal resale market.So if the price floor set by the market is around half of SPA, what would happen if owners who wish to exit just sell subsale at that price rather than waiting for the Lelong process. Then does it become the new official market price? |
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Aug 16 2022, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 16 2022, 11:21 AM) Arguably all these lelongs from new developments should have minimal risk and practically be like a VP no? On the rare occasion you may find one thatβs been fully furnished already then it went kaput. Risks like there are already occupants there are minimal as it is quite new (but bidders are advised to check whether the unit is empty because you really don't want the hassle to go to court to kick out the occupiers). However the risks are in the double transfer process and obtaining the state consent, plus usually for auction cases, Bank will not bear any outstanding owings like maintenance etc. and auction properties usually have thousands if not tens of thousands outstanding. |
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Aug 17 2022, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 16 2022, 07:02 PM) The auction bank will cover the outstanding maintenance fees and cukai taksiran up until the auction date. Good to know. Different banks, different properties, different terms. I have come across auction cases where Banks won't settle. How about the double transfer process? Have to pay stamp duty twice? Apply consent at your own risk? |
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Dec 15 2022, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 15 2022, 08:56 AM) 1. Cheaper units should be bumi lot unit. 3XXK. Non bumi usually 4XXK got ppl will grab. Yup, that means the successful bidder will have to pay stamp duty and fees twice, once for the original buyer at the ORIGINAL price and then the second time for himself/herself. Not to mention if non bumi buys the bumi unit, there may be a penalty to the state government for consent ie. pay to state the bumi discount on the ORIGINAL price. Hence all the hassles and time made the price fall big time. 2. All newer transaction now required double transfer. As developer already issued strata title. On the plus point, my unit there rented out at RM1.2k for a studio. Those 300k are 800++ sq ft so rental will be higher. At 300k your returns are 14% ROI p.a which is stupendous nowadays. If you are a bumi and loaded with cash, IMHO worth taking a punt. |
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Dec 16 2022, 09:56 AM
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I noticed that in Lowyat forum, folks tend to shoot down a development they aren't interested in OR after they buy they try to play it up... its human nature. Folks seldom refer good projects to others here but quietly go and buy themselves....
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Dec 16 2022, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Dec 16 2022, 11:49 AM) Haha sorry dude. I know I touch a raw nerve with you on this project whenever I criticize it. But itβs true, this was the quickest burn of $400k ringgit I ever saw in my life. I canβt help but use this as a cautionary tale. No worries dude. In life you have some hits and some misses. This was a sure miss for me but as i am conservative, I will buy the smallest unit for investment purposes. So my "losses on paper" is not 400k (for the bigger units) but maybe around 50k only If someone talks up a project they will get labeled a SA. Itβs easier to be an armchair critic you see. Everything is subjective except for sales records and rental rates. So thatβs the best way to form an opinion of a project. |
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Dec 19 2022, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Dec 16 2022, 07:07 PM) My cousin bought the 1k+ sqft unit for almost 1 mill telling me itβs the new DPC. So do I slap the fellas now or later? Itβs a I told you so moment because I said thatβs PJ/MK prices and they didnβt see the difference. I saw the project and my jaw dropped it really is in the middle of nowhere. Don't slap lah... yous cousin is hurting more than you know Thatβs why my beef with this project. Because I couldnβt save him I feel the need to bleat out when I can against something I know just doesnβt make sense. |
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Dec 22 2022, 10:16 AM
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Still talking about doom and gloom? The buyers have accepted their fate and doing the best in the situation. As long as the buyers don't go bankrupt, its ok lah... Investing in anything has its risks. Luckily didn't buy crypto as the crash is still ongoing and people have lost their life savings on it (latest case FTX boss being extradited to USA). But I guess some folks still have the need to say I told you so... its ok lah
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Dec 23 2022, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 23 2022, 06:56 AM) If i had the cash and were a bumi, i would buy. Prices are so low because there is a need for double transfer process whereby successful bidder needs to pay stamp duty twice in the tens of thousands plus legal fees plus all the outstanding arrears in outgoings. The fact is the buyer profile needs to fit ie. cash rich bumiputra... That size unit can easily get rental 1,500 to 2,000 (if do reno and split unit) which would represent a gross ROI of 5.3% to 7.1% (very good in todays market)This post has been edited by PAChamp: Dec 23 2022, 09:37 AM |
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Dec 23 2022, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 23 2022, 09:44 AM) Dont really need cash rich buyer. A normal working couple should be able to qualify. Put the the big exp in the loan sum and he oredi a winner. Reason why need cash is because there will be a mismatch in the auction terms requirement ie. need to settle in 90 days while bank loan will need the whole process of double transfer and consent application which will easily take 6 to 9 months. So if you are cash rich, just pay first, apply loan later.Close to Rumahwip and rsku pricing. |
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Dec 27 2022, 10:17 AM
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Dec 28 2022, 10:27 AM
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Dec 28 2022, 10:28 AM
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Once the market absorbs all the auction units then the prices will begin to move up as the floor has been reached.
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Dec 28 2022, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Dec 28 2022, 11:07 AM) Donβt know if itβs unprecedented but having a complete ownership change of primary buyers via auction or aggressive subsales. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. There is no need for complete ownership change lah. Just those owners who cannot hold ie. motivated sellers or auctioned by bank. The Majority of primary owners there can hold the property for years and years. So once all the owners who are "financially challenged"have sold or their units successfully auctioned the prices will rise. Cavatzu liked this post
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