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post Oct 19 2013, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 19 2013, 06:34 AM)
Thank you. smile.gif , I saw some corrosion in last loop. IDK about current loop. I'll post picture when possible.

I'm thinking of ordering something from the US, any experience with FedEx? Is it reliable?

IINM, your bulk was with FedEx right? Do they cover losses/damaged? How bad if shipment got taxed?
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FedEx is great for me so far. I would think they're pretty good with handling so I haven't had to claim for damages yet.
Shipment tax will depend on how you clear it with customs. If you don't wanna go through it yourself, let me know shared shipping purchase from PPC still open. smile.gif

QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Oct 19 2013, 08:36 AM)
Ma noob rig wub.gif  wub.gif  with ma noob wc skill sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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That's.... Not very noob. Lol. I see you put a good amount of money into your rig. Bought the stuff from overseas?

Very nice selection btw.
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post Oct 19 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 19 2013, 11:16 AM)
Not from PPC. I'm thinking of Case Labs. biggrin.gif
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Fuhhh. Major facelift eh?

AFAIK, Caselabs flat packs, so only worry about damage is that the panels come bent. But if they do come bent, revert to Caselabs before taking it up with FedEx. As for taxes, if you are buying a case from CL, just be careful of what the declaration is.
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post Oct 19 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 19 2013, 12:18 PM)
Yeah, first thought about Mountain Mods. Then the dudes over the Overclock.net recon Case Labs. Case Labs said they will process damage claim. I'm more worried about loss parcel.

How much they can tax with Computer Chasis?
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Rarely ppl talk about mountain mods already. haha.

FedEx hasn't loss any of my stuff before. Plus they have complete international tracking. So no worries.
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post Oct 19 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Oct 19 2013, 01:23 PM)
please dont mention the money sweat.gif  sweat.gif
only proc n OS from malaysia laugh.gif
noob coz never done wc before! sweat.gif
next year maybe consider upgrade w/c gpu sweat.gif
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I know what you mean. tongue.gif

whoa. That's a lot of things from overseas. You're using a 540 Air? Or something else?

For a person who's never done wc before, you did good. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Oct 19 2013, 03:27 PM)
Yup!540 Air! flex.gif  flex.gif u got a good eye notworthy.gif
thanks, as you can see top of it got show off res sweat.gif  and i dunno if ir will effect the flow or not since i use two res in ine loop.

But front res is not really a res since i use two top fill for both side and its looks just like convert from tibe 13mm ID to 600mm ID sweat.gif

below are my 'other' chamber that i put my real res laugh.gif

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Very nice case to water cool in.

The next time you're adding or upgrading your loop, consider simplifying the "rear" chamber, reduce the cable mess and tidy it up. Will give you lots of room for 1 or 2 more radiators. Maybe throw in a monsta. tongue.gif

Your flow shouldn't be affected much. Koolance pumps (I'm assuming you're using a Koolance pump since everything in your loop is Koolance) are D5s on steroids.
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post Oct 19 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Oct 19 2013, 04:06 PM)
after 1 whole week setup this rig,im tired+excited and dont feel like want to tidy up the cable much sweat.gif
did you mean to put a rad or two in rear chamber?how to do it rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
but i will consider it if i want to upgrade w/c gpu sweat.gif
and please not a monsta, its tooo bulky for cute my 540 sweat.gif

yeah, im using koolance pump flex.gif
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There's always a next time, no need to rush. laugh.gif

yeah, you can 1 or 2 radiators in the back chamber with some modding. Depends on how you want to do it of course.

haha. no one will see the monsta if you put in the back chamber. brows.gif
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post Oct 20 2013, 02:38 AM

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The Enthoo Primo is designed with water cooling in mind really. A lot of the massive towers sold now are built with water cooling in mind. Pretty good market strategy if you ask me. haha

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post Oct 21 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 20 2013, 09:41 PM)
Buy computer parts until cant buy bus ticket. biggrin.gif

Imagine how do we do LAN party with our fridge heavy cases? Haha.

FedEx wont hand our parcel to other local courier right? They process from start till finished?
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FedEx handles start to finish, no third parties involved. Even tax declaration is handled by FedEx, even then they will call you for clarification.

QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 21 2013, 12:52 PM)
IDK if its true or not. Seen the video where that dude from FedEx just throw customer's monitor over the gate?
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FedEx as a company is quite reputable, the staff they hire however, different story.

QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 21 2013, 01:00 PM)
Yeah, and if I buy that case, the package probably weigh 100lbs or more.

Last time I've assembled my loop again, I didn't discuss much. But I've just wanted to say, primo ADV lrt 1/2 3/4 is freakin' stiff!
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Yeah, primo is pretty stiff. But hey, no worry of kinking! Haha
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post Oct 21 2013, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Oct 21 2013, 04:20 PM)
Ya, 240 or 280. Bottom 240 and top 360
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You planning on going all out bro? brows.gif

QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 21 2013, 06:35 PM)
Thanks for the info.

For adv lrt, yeah no tubing kinking, just that my destroyed my fingers, and nearly kink. Haha.
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Time to change tubing size or try different brand of tubing. lol.
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post Oct 21 2013, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 21 2013, 07:48 PM)
Nevaa! Mainly because there are so many 1/2 3/4 already. That's another reason going CL. Roomy. smile.gif
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Haha. Sell all your 1/2 3/4 and get fat rigid acrylic. brows.gif
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post Oct 21 2013, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Lucassss @ Oct 21 2013, 08:11 PM)
So much poison.  laugh.gif
Anyone else feel that the tubing in the retail pack is stiffer compared to the loose ones?
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Soon I will have locally sourced rigid acrylic (hopefully) and then well, then we can have a toxic vat. rclxms.gif

I think the loose ones are typically softer coz the entire reel is larger and handled more often than the ones in the box which tend to come off the production line, cut, stuffed into boxes and shipped onto shelves.
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post Oct 21 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 21 2013, 10:03 PM)
Oooooohhhhhh.....  Rigid tubess..........  Damn you!

Oh, one main reason I don't go rigid yet because, i haven't found any blood red push fittings. smile.gif

How much rigid tube per feet and one push fittings? biggrin.gif
Mine is the loose one. Still hard as axe. Maybe no plasticizer at all batch. Lol.
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Red push fittings... do they even exist? lol.

If they don't, can go the primo route. They have red rigid tube COMPRESSION FITINGS.

QUOTE(Octopus88 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:21 PM)
guys help...dilemma in between corsair h100i and swiftech h220 sad.gif
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If long term with upgrade in mind, H220. If you want no mess, no fuss and just install and go with no plan for future add-ons, H100i.

But personally, I'd get the H220. It's a better all around package. The H220 is essentially: Swiftech Apogee HD + MCP 35X pump in a Swiftech Apogee Drive II configuration, Swiftech rad (I personally don't care for this), and two Swiftech Helix fans which are decent.

The best part of the kit is actually the Apogee Drive II. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Lucassss @ Oct 21 2013, 11:35 PM)
What's the difference between the H220 and Apogee Drive II? Why is the Apogee Drive II so much more expensive?
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H220 is the kit, Drive II is the pump block. Whenever you buy something separately it's always more expensive. lol. Look at most of our systems, all custom built costing XXXX. hahahaha.

QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Oct 21 2013, 11:40 PM)
my case can fits H320. Is that as same as H220 in terms of performance? Din't see much reviews of it tho  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Depends what you're running. If just CPU, then probably no difference at all. I just finished testing on my 240 and 360mm radiators today on just stock CPU load temps in an air cond room. negligible difference (1-2C).
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post Oct 22 2013, 04:21 AM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 22 2013, 04:05 AM)
Most of it only silver push fittings. And what's the deal with BP Rigid Comp Fittings? Haha. How they compress a rigid tube? Copper tubes, yeah. Because of malleable properties. But acrylic tubing. Heh~
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Not BP bro. PrimoChill. Well, not really "compress", more of like compression styled. Should check it out on their youtube channel.

The fittings are nickel plated brass with an outer anodized aluminium "compression" ring, which does not come into contact with water flow so you'll be perfectly ok. Even if it does contact water, as long as the anodizing is not damaged, still safe.
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post Oct 22 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kentucki @ Oct 22 2013, 09:32 AM)
primochill acrylic is very thick (too thick), very-very hard to bend compare to other acrylic and it cracks very easily. doh.gif
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Actually, you're kinda wrong here. Primochill rigid tubing is nowhere near "very thick/too thick", ek makes thicker acrylic tubes at 4mm thickness. Primochill rigid tube is only 3.1mm thick while bitspower and e22 tubes are only 2mm thick.

If you've been using primo rigid tube and it's been cracking, your temperatures are wrong bro. Acrylic Bending is a delicate thing. Afaik, primochill makes excellent acrylic products.

QUOTE(llk @ Oct 22 2013, 10:17 AM)
Ya sorry typo  doh.gif , is pump  tongue.gif
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The 750 pump should work perfectly fine if you don't go overboard with the loop size. However if you're going to do long term, then consider buying the d5 kit or opting for the swiftech h220/h320. The swiftech kit may not look like much, but it comes with an excellent pump and water block inside.

QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 22 2013, 11:10 AM)
Owh, my mistake. Look at the time of reply, I'm woozing around ( not drunk ) after a movie. biggrin.gif

Next question, will they ever make a 1/2 ID rigid tubing? biggrin.gif
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1/2 ID a bit to big right. Lol

QUOTE(qwe13 @ Oct 22 2013, 12:11 PM)
I think the pump for rs240 and rx240 is the same..only diff is the rad.
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Yep, if it both says 750 then difference is just rad. Though some of it may have different water block (rasa/raystorm)

QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 22 2013, 12:47 PM)
IINM the 750 is the model of the pump.

Pump Juice
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750 is the pump model, now V4 IINM.

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post Oct 22 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 22 2013, 01:15 PM)
If this boss reply ah, tup tap tup tap.. Haha!

Once you go big, you'll never go back. biggrin.gif

V4 eh? 750 from my kit is good too. Changed to D5 because hated the bay res idea.
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Hahaha. tongue.gif. 1/2 rigid acrylic would be insane to see though. It'll be having test tubes in your case. drool.gif

The 750 to d5/mcp355/35x upgrade path is inevitable, especially when things get serious. brows.gif
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QUOTE(llk @ Oct 22 2013, 01:32 PM)
Thanks guys for the info, so the conclusion is better getting the independent D5 pump for long run. I will study more details for which model to go.
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You don't need to go independent pump route. Bay res pump combo is an easy start point. smile.gif

QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 22 2013, 01:42 PM)
It'll be a mess to bend 1/2 ID tubes tho. tongue.gif . But wooh, man if it'll be one day true. biggrin.gif
Ahh, another one fell into pristine's trap.

IMO, 750 should be just fine running 360mm rad, 1 CPU block, 1 GPU block with most equipments are leveled off. ( reduce head loss )
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Haha, no trap bro. It's just what we all end up doing. tongue.gif

What you say is true though, 750 will be fine for starters. It's just when later on itchy then need more oomph. tongue.gif

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post Oct 22 2013, 02:08 PM

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Oh, something I found out recently. Higher flow rates give you less fluctuations in temperature but same peak temperature levels. This was based on my system running fans at 100%. Room sounded like I had a jet inside.
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QUOTE(llk @ Oct 22 2013, 03:41 PM)
Yeah, I'm still have the Intel original cooler in hand for backup.

Btw, i'm currently study the thickness of the radiator, will it be any major different in temperature between thin & thick type?
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Thickness is one aspect. If you compare a thick rad with low fpi against a thin rad with high fpi, chances are the temperature will be similar or close.

I think I wrote a bit on it here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2946820&hl=

QUOTE(llk @ Oct 22 2013, 04:10 PM)
Lol...actually i'm not really new in watercooling world, back to 10 years+ ago i already in watercooling for my AMD rig, that time really hard to get those watercooling parts, i still owning a custom radiator (cut from motorcycle's radiator  biggrin.gif ) & Dangerden CPU & GPU waterblocks. I still remember there was a uni member in this forum who study mechanical engineering custom made his waterblock by using CNC machine. BTW i wonder nowadays hardly heard about dangerden in local market?
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Danger Den. Nice. Haven't heard that for a long time. CNC got. Recently devilish_yin did something like that. Danger Den has closed shop btw. No longer in business.

QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 22 2013, 04:13 PM)
Haaa.. Laying low tyco. Should take over pristine biggrin.gif . Joking.

Yeah, DD not so famous rite now.
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QUOTE(qwe13 @ Oct 22 2013, 04:18 PM)
Dangerden is no longer a leader in the w/c world nowadays.. it used to. Now, its XSPC, EKWB, Koolance etc. I think Dangerden shuts down already  tongue.gif
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Yep, Danger Den dah gulung tikar.

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post Oct 22 2013, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Oct 22 2013, 04:48 PM)
Nice. In my experience, in low to mid fan configuration, these rads performance are ( RS<EX<AX<RX )  but from mid to high within marginal of error, ( RS<EX<AX=RX ) sometime AX will outperformed all. And best thing, AX is quite a thin rad, but not as thin as RS/EX.

But, AX kit is more expensive IINM. IDK.
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AX is pretty much XSPC flagship. lol. And one of those rads are no longer in production I think, I just forgot which.

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