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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V132, Everyone Huat!

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SKY 1809
post Jun 14 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 14 2013, 03:11 PM)
IBM-ers also need to wash eye often.
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Any U tube links hmm.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 14 2013, 03:13 PM)
Any U tube links  hmm.gif
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What? laugh.gif No have lah.
Only exclusive previews at certain timeslots at KPMG tower.
river.sand
post Jun 14 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 14 2013, 02:57 PM)
Am I the only one where the value of

Capital appreciation > Dividend

Half year gone liao, my dividend target only reach 40% dry.gif
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Not surprising mah... this is bull market (except yesterday).

Your dividend only reach 40% of target also more than mine lah laugh.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 14 2013, 03:17 PM)
Not surprising mah... this is bull market (except yesterday).

Your dividend only reach 40% of target also more than mine lah  laugh.gif
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hmm.gif If Divvy > value appreciation, thats underperform already

seldom happen in bullish market

This post has been edited by StupidGuyPlayComp: Jun 14 2013, 03:26 PM
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 14 2013, 02:55 PM)
My next job might will be at KPMG tower. Walking distance to 1 Avenue/HL building. brows.gif
Then everyday can cuci mata.  laugh.gif
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bro, lets lunch together next time, i just working at 1 Avenue only icon_idea.gif
SKY 1809
post Jun 14 2013, 03:31 PM

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SUSPink Spider
post Jun 14 2013, 03:37 PM

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Portfolio more than recovered yesterday's losses biggrin.gif
yok70
post Jun 14 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 14 2013, 03:37 PM)
Portfolio more than recovered yesterday's losses biggrin.gif
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better be careful and do nothing. biggrin.gif
just worry today might be a bull trap. as the buying strength looks weak. hmm.gif


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post Jun 14 2013, 03:41 PM

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ok, my friend called and the customer service said no longer $40, it's now $8 (non-margin) and $10 (margin) on Maybank. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 14 2013, 03:40 PM)
better be careful and do nothing.  biggrin.gif
just worry today might be a bull trap. as the buying strength looks weak.  hmm.gif
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yeah, doing nothing. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:47 AM)
Growth company might be impacted by large debts and currency exchange loss as well.

Whereas cash rich company may shine with Fed Ben QE winding down.
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True also.. so that's why still hold some apek value funds.. laugh.gif

Need a good mix of all three elements, value, dividend and growth
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:48 AM)
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See la., you cannot master me here and there one.
The other day, I still remember telling you Look Seven is worth a shot at 295.
See if you follow you got half feet in Holland road. tongue.gif
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hahaha.. you betul2 master...lucky didn't buy cause already up... tongue.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 14 2013, 11:03 AM)
Why do you subtract net cash from earning in computing PE?

BTW, what is the formula for net cash? Cash & Cash Equivalents - Total Liabilities?
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Cash is already what you have when you buy the stock.. so should not factor into company valuation. So higher cash companies, have lower 'real' PE. Think about it....

Net cash = cash at hand - all liabilities

Lets say...

Company share is RM 1.00
EPS is RM 0.10
But the company has net cash of RM 0.20

So the net cash 'RM 0.20' is more or less belongs to you when you buy the stock... when you evaluate the PE, you evaluate the business, not including the cash. wink.gif

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SKY 1809
post Jun 14 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 14 2013, 03:56 PM)
Cash is already what you have when you buy stock.. so should not factor into company valuation. So higher cash companies, have lower 'real' PE. Think about it....

Net cash = cash at hand - all liabilities
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Good thumbup.gif

I feel IF Fed Ben has unlimited editions of QEs for long time , Cash is more King.

But once he stops , or even slowing down aka tapering , cash has another value again hmm.gif

Cash = Hidden Opportunity/weapons yawn.gif

A Joker in hand ......

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post Jun 14 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 14 2013, 03:08 PM)
KPMG? What line?  laugh.gif
IBM-ers working on next tower always look at KPMG tower and feel pity at them.
IBM-ers working late leaving office at 11pm also KPMG executives still working there.
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I'm not in accounting field . tongue.gif
You're from IBM? blink.gif

QUOTE(PlayMaker` @ Jun 14 2013, 03:27 PM)
bro, lets lunch together next time, i just working at 1 Avenue only  icon_idea.gif
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No problem, hopefully my frogging attempt will succeed. blush.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 14 2013, 04:08 PM)
I'm not in accounting field . tongue.gif
You're from IBM?  blink.gif
No problem, hopefully my frogging attempt will succeed.  blush.gif
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Fishing trip, nice laugh.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 04:11 PM

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Suspiciously, many stocks currently ngam ngam stay at the immediate support area. Magicians very geng. tongue.gif
Even HSI also. icon_idea.gif

This post has been edited by yok70: Jun 14 2013, 04:13 PM
gark
post Jun 14 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 14 2013, 04:11 PM)
Suspiciously, many stocks currently ngam ngam stay at the immediate support area. Magicians very geng.  tongue.gif
Even HSI also.  icon_idea.gif
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Stay too long at support = kaboom! soon. laugh.gif
SKY 1809
post Jun 14 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 14 2013, 04:19 PM)
Stay too long at support = kaboom! soon.  laugh.gif
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More or less waiting for FF to dump down laugh.gif

Of course the higher u push up, better values for the FF to sell down.
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post Jun 14 2013, 04:32 PM

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