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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V132, Everyone Huat!

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river.sand
post Jun 12 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 12 2013, 10:30 AM)
Cause china growth slowing down... since 2010

Indonesia 1Q growth is still impressive at 6%.. but still over bought.
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China's economy is still growing, albeit at a slower pace. Beijing's target is 7.5% for this year.

Well, at least that is what come out from China's data. Who knows if the actual economy is worse than that whistling.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 12 2013, 02:19 PM)
There other day I met a 20 years old young chap

He was introducing me an investment plan where by you get to buy your dream house in one year

Well presented via his iPad, and there was a slide asking

什么东西是每一天都需要用的?
(what are the things you need to use everyday)

Guess which company? tongue.gif

Hint : It is one of the listed company in KLSE.
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Water, electricity, air, gasoline hmm.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 12 2013, 02:33 PM)
BINGO!

Of course I did not.

I am those lazy type. If given a choice I wish I dont have to work.  cool2.gif

I told him I'd buy your company share & let you work for me instead.
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If you have 10 levels of downlines you don't need to work also. (Except give your sermon once in a while.)

BTW I don't use Amway's products everyday...
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post Jun 12 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 12 2013, 02:41 PM)
I told him

I don't mind trying your company product, but heck, please tell me how many outlets are there in the whole Petaling Jaya. He told me 2.

It is so inconvenience unlike we have Watson, Guardian, Giant, Tesco easily accessible everywhere. Why would I need to be so mahfan everytime gonna go look after your outlets.
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You join Amway if you wish to become a millionaire, not because you want to use its products.
If you have the Amway millionaire dream, automatically you will go to Amway warehouse to collect the products, not matter how inconvenient it is. (And no matter how expensive the products are.)

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post Jun 12 2013, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 12 2013, 03:25 PM)
Come to Indo lah.. you will see the speed of development...and the large population in 10-20 years time will overtake Malaysia one.

This is the first time i see in Indonesia, manufacturers complaint to government, that the country actually RAN OUT of industrial estate for them to build new factories.  laugh.gif 

260 million citizen, 40-50% current under the poverty line. 50% below age 25. Middle class growing at 10-20% a year.  sweat.gif

Pink Spider Amoy lovers.. here got lotsa cheap amoi..  laugh.gif
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I will go to Indonesia if you can get me a job tongue.gif
I am interested in amois too drool.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 12 2013, 03:00 PM)
I only know can become millionaire by selling product to other.
I do not know one can become millionaire by buying the product  and consume it. New to me...
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Selling to downlines. But before that, your upline will tell you to 'try' it first.
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post Jun 13 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 13 2013, 02:03 PM)
Brother... i think your testosterone too high, over limit liao... should relax few days at BKK... tongue.gif

No need to monitor your stocks...let BKK treat you like king for a while laugh.gif
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Can't do that in Jakarta meh?
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post Jun 13 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 13 2013, 03:21 PM)
I think last time he come he said focus on construction right?
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Last time was how long ago? Things change very fast in the market...
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post Jun 13 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 13 2013, 03:52 PM)
Not another big kaboom, is existing bad market sentiment may prolong till Sept.

Oct onward may recover (depend Ben's action), year end will be good

laugh.gif is this feng shui chart trend?
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It's the classic saying - sell in May and go away.

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post Jun 13 2013, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 13 2013, 07:20 PM)
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On a serious note, don't really like Thai, Taiwan.  wub.gif

Photography summary.
1.) You get to know DSLR/Photography.
2.) You're excited and bought a decent camera.  flex.gif
3.) You read some fundamentals and thinks that you know everything.  brows.gif
4.) You took pictures like a boss and expects some top class photo from it.  rclxm9.gif
5.) Proudly share it to friends/post on forums.  wub.gif
6.) Kena whack 9 9 noob/no quality etc etc.  cry.gif
7.) Go back to step 3 minus the latter part.  rolleyes.gif

Food for thought, see how it resembles a beginner investor's journey?
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Sharing photos with friends on FB no problem. If post in Photomalaysia forum sure kena whack until you lose confidence sweat.gif
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post Jun 13 2013, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 13 2013, 07:34 PM)
Your photo also nice...especially the amois.. hahaha

Maybe can consider change hobby from investing to photography during the downturn...  tongue.gif
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Shoot amois need to pay ley... and the fee is getting more expensive every year sweat.gif

Blame it on those hamsap photographers who push up the market price mad.gif Shooting lingerie model costs RM250 or more - can see, cannot touch. I might as well ask Pink Spider to recommend some interesting places to go brows.gif

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post Jun 14 2013, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 13 2013, 09:49 PM)
If shoot nude model leh? How much? laugh.gif
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Shoot nude model at least RM400. Even at this price all places are fully booked at no time...

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post Jun 14 2013, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 14 2013, 09:03 AM)
Folks I think we need to show some refrain about what we post leh.
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OK nod.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 14 2013, 10:23 AM)
My PEG = PE / (Growth% + div%)  tongue.gif

A bit different from standard peg... that why call value-growth haha and minus off net cash on hand for PE calculation.
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Why do you subtract net cash from earning in computing PE?

BTW, what is the formula for net cash? Cash & Cash Equivalents - Total Liabilities?

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post Jun 14 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Jun 14 2013, 11:29 AM)
Especially cylinical stock like steel company. We should buy when PE is high and sell When PE is low. Because market may perceive some bad times ahead thats why PE drop until so low
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Efficient Market Theory?
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post Jun 14 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Jun 14 2013, 12:02 PM)
oldtown, astro, aeon, walmart, coke are some of the long term investment i am looking at. They all have wide economic moat can defense against competition and market. I will buy them when their price reached my intrinsic value. Think of 100 years, they will still survivr
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Oldtown faces competition from Pappa Rich and other imitations.
The other stocks you mention do indeed have wide economic moat, but that doesn't guarantee their survival 100 years from now. Walmart is challenged by amazon.com.

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QUOTE(iAlien @ Jun 14 2013, 12:38 PM)
The concept of restaurant is not new, just the taste maybe??
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No, it's the service or environment. We go to mamak stalls to watch EPL, or Starbucks to kill time.
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 14 2013, 02:57 PM)
Am I the only one where the value of

Capital appreciation > Dividend

Half year gone liao, my dividend target only reach 40% dry.gif
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Not surprising mah... this is bull market (except yesterday).

Your dividend only reach 40% of target also more than mine lah laugh.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 17 2013, 03:49 PM)
Tony zai busy with listing of new IPO

He has Airasia, Tune Insurance (Feb 2013), Air Asia X (July 2013), now they are aiming to list Tune Hotel by 2015. Waw.
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He is not just busy with IPO only. He also appears in reality show The Apprentice Asia. And he also flies everywhere to watch his F1 team compete.

He's got so much energy hmm.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(billeu @ Jun 17 2013, 08:30 PM)
Any Sifu did their research on YeeLee 5584?

Whats ur view on this stock? icon_question.gif
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Not my analysis...
http://www.intellecpoint.com/2013/06/the-l...mer-stocks.html


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