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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V132, Everyone Huat!

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gark
post Jun 12 2013, 10:02 AM

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Whee new KABOOM thread.... rclxms.gif

World Bond.. check
Emerging equity .. check
Emerging currency .. check
Gold .. check
Commodities .. check
US REITs .. check


US Equity .. waiting
Property .. waiting
KLCI .. ? hmm.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 12 2013, 10:11 AM)
KLCI , many destroy the sell buttons  laugh.gif

But Jakarta is sinking fast  hmm.gif
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Jakarta... i am not surprised, last time i check the stocks there the index stocks is selling from 20x-30x PE.. accident waiting to happen.... whistling.gif

Previously, I search high and low also cannot find counters to buy .. haiz.

Today rupiah also plunged against the dollar.. double haiz... sweat.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 10:29 AM)
But Hang Seng trading at low teens PE, why still kaboom sad.gif
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Cause china growth slowing down... since 2010

Indonesia 1Q growth is still impressive at 6%.. but still over bought.

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post Jun 12 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 10:49 AM)
Carlsberg still doh.gif

JTINTER and APOLLO, why u no kaboom vmad.gif
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Then buy more carlsberg loh... cheers.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 10:50 AM)
Still 15% above my initial entry, still got more room to kaboom before top up tongue.gif
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What is your top up stratergy?

Mine is every 10%-20% down..double up. laugh.gif IF the fundamentals are still intact.

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post Jun 12 2013, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 10:53 AM)
I look at DY, if current price gives DY above rate of return of my bond funds, I buy

My (conservative) bond fund long-term IRR currently at 3.8% wink.gif
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And the amount?

Double up means, every down you DOUBLE your top up amount... again if the fundamentals are still good.

Your IRR too low leh.. bank rakyat give 4.01% FD leh...

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post Jun 12 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 10:55 AM)
tak berapa faham...can give example in mumbers? hmm.gif
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Lets say your investment $1000

drop 10% to $900, then i top up $100
if drop another 10%, then i top up further $200
then next 10%, top up $400
next 10%... $800

and so on... laugh.gif

Risky move, to use with extreme caution only at value plays.. AND you absolute confident the company can survive the drop... sweat.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 11:02 AM)
Wah...u applying teknik casino kat stock investing shocking.gif

Ini...panggil teknik Martingale brows.gif
Kaboom resipi terunggul rclxms.gif
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No risk no gain mah.. we are all gamblers in this thread anyway... whistling.gif

And very less likely the stock will drop to zero right. blush.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 12 2013, 11:06 AM)
Cash gamblers ...by holding cash hmm.gif
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Same as you waiting for the big kaboom... tongue.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 11:11 AM)
...which may not come after all tongue.gif
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Ya... thats is my biggest mistake post-GE.... thats why i have this quote to remind myself next time. sad.gif

"Far more money has been lost by investors preparing for corrections, or trying to anticipate corrections, than has been lost in corrections themselves." - Peter Lynch

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post Jun 12 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 12 2013, 11:11 AM)
I also using this method. But the gap between double up must be big enough. Well said, no risk no gain.
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A lot of double down players here... rclxms.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 12 2013, 11:04 AM)
Just saw this news which is back in May

Air asia X offer free ticker under IPO
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...08&sec=business

Zero fare return air ticket to any destinations flown by the airline to investors that buy 10,000 IPO shares, and three tickets for those who buy 100,000 IPO shares as part of its shareholder benefit programme.

Interesting approach biggrin.gif
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To qualify for the tics.. must hold for 1 year after IPO... tongue.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 12 2013, 11:36 AM)
Sigh... Today cut loss liaw, beh tahan the drop
Keep cash, wait KLCI drop back around 1690-1700 then consider wan in again or not
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KLCI only drop 0.5%... already surrender? ohmy.gif

Want to play market.. must have holding power.. flex.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 12 2013, 11:48 AM)
Stocks like Kstar, Huaan and CSL worth to keep? I didn't think so, so sold off  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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If not worth to keep for at least 3 years, I don't buy..even for short term gain - that is my no 1 rule.

Maybe will serve you well. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 11:58 AM)
Pana jie jie!

I wanna accumulate wafer, find ways to make it fall! laugh.gif
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You want it fall... easy sell down loh... and you collect back at lower value.. tongue.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 12 2013, 11:53 AM)
But majority of Bursa stocks not worth  to hold for next 3 years , how  hmm.gif
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Got lah.. cash rich, consumer, crony business, stable business kind of stocks plenty wat... wink.gif All these at least 3 years cause election long way somore.

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post Jun 12 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 01:23 PM)
export revenue > domestic revenue

export to other neighbouring countries

Cheap but high volume, profit thumbup.gif
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Your biggest competitor in the region..selling to 260 million people in Indon, hope they don't enter malaysia in a big way.

By the way, their waffles taste better than Malaysians... tongue.gif

http://ot.co.id/products.aspx?brand_id=Tango

I like and always buy the crunchchox... drool.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 01:48 PM)
Thanks for the info notworthy.gif

Btw, they sell WAFER, not waffle tongue.gif
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Look further down the list....

Apparently they are expanding like mad, too much sales in indo and not exporting yet.

For instant noodles we have Mee Sedap, coffee such as Kapal Api, and washing powder such as Daia.. already invading supermarkets in MY..from Indon

Indo consumer companies are growing like mad.. due to more indon becoming middle class..thats why they have PE 30x.. laugh.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 01:54 PM)
If they dual list in KLSE, I also berminat drool.gif
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Mee Sedaap > Mee Maggi laugh.gif According to my taste lar hah... hmm.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 12 2013, 02:10 PM)
Familiar names.

PE30 means like Nestle MY liao. Waw.

Gark you investing in Indonesia market, too?
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Look see look see.. got a local brokerage account. Everything is soo expensive... waiting for this correction to be over first. laugh.gif

Looking at consumer staple & discretionary companies & palm oil companies. Consumer consumption growth here is astronomical... drool.gif

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