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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V132, Everyone Huat!

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jasontoh
post Jun 24 2013, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 24 2013, 09:57 PM)
I try to search for it when Axreit was 4.00 just last Thursday (because yield too low), but surprisingly (may be talked too much of destroy sell button  tongue.gif ), I do not know where is the sell button on the online platform, too long no use already. (screen view problem, page setting)
When I found it, market close already.

So no sell button still intact...  biggrin.gif

Actually, I am a bit worry on the property market situation and too many people too bullish on property as well as high household debt level.
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post Jun 24 2013, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 24 2013, 09:51 PM)
Some of my FD maturing Soon, Mari Mari Pasar malam diskaun jualan  brows.gif
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Sukuk 1Malaysia just mature last Friday...

So should be got few fresh hundred million out there.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 24 2013, 09:48 PM)
Deleveraging and deflation in worth means money varnish in thin air, as same as the opposite of money created in thin air.

Yield is getting higher, so those extra cash can buy those higher yield asset.

Remember when a bond being sold down (that resulted yield getting higher), there is still a buyer and a seller.

Money is not always constant, aka if there is 1 million, then the 1 million must be somewhere.
It doesn't.

A simple scenario, if stock market plunging, resulted value become lesser, then where is the money goes?
It varnish.
Nobody is winner, everyone losing money. So 100 million worth become 50 million, where is the 50 million, gone with thin air.

While in bullish market, everyone is making money, who is loser?
No one.
Money become more and more.

Stock market is never a zero sum game.
Only futures market is.
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Nice sharing thumbup.gif

I think the end results would be credit crunch or cash crunch some where in Asia yawn.gif

Surprisingly some reits start to yield 7 to 8% liao .

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 24 2013, 10:03 PM
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post Jun 24 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 24 2013, 10:01 PM)
Nice sharing  thumbup.gif

I think the end results would be credit crunch or cash crunch some where in Asia  yawn.gif

Surprisingly some reits start to yield 7 to 8% liao .
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Really? Which one? I just refreshed and it seems like the REITS almost like no movement.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 24 2013, 10:05 PM)
Really? Which one? I just refreshed and it seems like the REITS almost like no movement.
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TWR reit , just on some rough calculation using previous year payment ....

Maybe this year , earning falls a lot this year hmm.gif

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 24 2013, 10:01 PM)
Nice sharing  thumbup.gif

I think the end results would be credit crunch or cash crunch some where in Asia  yawn.gif

Surprisingly some reits start to yield 7 to 8% liao .
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Deleverage happen again, Unless more US + Europe + China version of QE again hmm.gif .

Cash is king again rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 24 2013, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 24 2013, 10:24 PM)
Deleverage happen again, Unless more US + Europe + China version of QE again  hmm.gif .

Cash is king again  rclxm9.gif
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I tot you invested heavily already, no? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 24 2013, 09:48 PM)
Deleveraging and deflation in worth means money varnish in thin air, as same as the opposite of money created in thin air.

Yield is getting higher, so those extra cash can buy those higher yield asset.

Remember when a bond being sold down (that resulted yield getting higher), there is still a buyer and a seller.

Money is not always constant, aka if there is 1 million, then the 1 million must be somewhere.
It doesn't.

A simple scenario, if stock market plunging, resulted value become lesser, then where is the money goes?
It varnish.
Nobody is winner, everyone losing money. So 100 million worth become 50 million, where is the 50 million, gone with thin air.

While in bullish market, everyone is making money, who is loser?
No one.
Money become more and more.

Stock market is never a zero sum game.
Only futures market is.
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hi cherroy,

Seeking your advise, i hv IGBreits which still below paper loss 2%, exclude dividend. Do you tink i shld sell and wait the market correction reentry later?

This the only left counter i have in paper loss.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 24 2013, 10:39 PM)
I tot you invested heavily already, no?  hmm.gif
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Got Some Fresh fund and other cash in FD. Those I never counted in my portfolio.
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 24 2013, 06:48 PM)
Padini.. this was a good stock during the last 2-3 years.

Now got Uniqlo, H&M, (and 1 more aussie chain store) here ... even family members have skipped buying from vincci (first time in many years!) sweat.gif
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Ok, this is something new. Vincci used to be a MUST-GO for all ladies hmm.gif
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post Jun 25 2013, 08:57 AM

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AXREIT drops 3% on opening.

Panic sells ?
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 25 2013, 09:09 AM)
AXREIT drops 3% on opening.

Panic sells ?
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anyone panic buying?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 24 2013, 09:48 PM)
Deleveraging and deflation in worth means money varnish in thin air, as same as the opposite of money created in thin air.

Yield is getting higher, so those extra cash can buy those higher yield asset.

Remember when a bond being sold down (that resulted yield getting higher), there is still a buyer and a seller.

Money is not always constant, aka if there is 1 million, then the 1 million must be somewhere.
It doesn't.

A simple scenario, if stock market plunging, resulted value become lesser, then where is the money goes?
It varnish.
Nobody is winner, everyone losing money. So 100 million worth become 50 million, where is the 50 million, gone with thin air.

While in bullish market, everyone is making money, who is loser?
No one.
Money become more and more.

Stock market is never a zero sum game.
Only futures market is.
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For stock price to move, a transaction has to have taken place

So if u buy at $1 and then tmw the price flew to $1.5 ... the person who sold is $0.5 richer ma. Inversely the person who bought is $1.5 'poorer in cash'
Dun forget when u want to buy something more expensive u need to bring additional money into the game .... in this case $0.5 more
Inversely when stock mkt drop scenario
Say u have this stock for $1
Suddenly drop to $0.8 .... if u dun sell then u dun lose ma ....
If u sell then only u lose $0.2
And dun forget in stock market its paper gain and paper loss ..... no cash is transacted until u actually buy or sell

the money cant just disappear no where right?
I guess you mean value instead? that can disappear as it is non tangible.

do correct me if i am wrong.

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