my friend's gen2(is campro right? LOL) ,naik bukit / break in front of bukit-alike traffic,when from N (pull handbrake ma) to D ,the car will fall back behind,have to tekan minyak kao kao only can move...2years + car adi i think,the car cant U-turn in one lane one ,before going highway,almost no power one haha,the engine also start giving quite loud sound when driving at 80....

campro has quite a bad early torque .. especially for AUTO...

as i said ,
that is the characteristic of the proton CAMPRO engine .
it is build for high-end power , the power band is at 3000-4000rpm .
which is almost perfect for highway driving .

but for city driving , we often need it at 2000-3000rpm , but the torque is dip down rather than climbing up . hence u can feel that it is sluggish at low speed .
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kcng , that is your problem .
i prefer to drive waja . no need to compare , just simply ask ppl about how the campro behaves is already enough.

Campro engine is so farking fast...LOL...better than Ferrari...
To hell with Proton cars...really...

There is no replacement for displacement mah

tot the 1997 (or something around that time) putra comes with airbags ?

nah, its ok, i got no issue with the torque for campro at 1-3k rpm
dont feel the dip in power...

but i did not say it is powerful at 1-3k rpm.

difference between 97" putra and 2000 putra is the ECU .. 5537 and 0450 ..
accessories .. 97" putra -> Recaro Njoy + momo steering + momo gearknob
2000 putra -> Recaro Njoy + Proton steering + proton gearknob ..

The is no Airbag for putra.. unless u mod it lar.. get it from GTI and place in the putra.. but u will sacrifice the MOMO steering..

as comparision , your's is the manual , it is logic if you dont feel there is some dip in power .

so the moral of the story is want a campro buy a manual

manual CAMPRO pick up also not that great la dudes....u still got to rev it around 3k-4k to get to the torque powerband and by revving that high it will start to drink more petrol and it will result in high fc

This post has been edited by Pro-MX: Mar 31 2007, 11:29 PM

yeah. 318 model

brudder, most putra have undergo transplant so it can definately smoke any national cars.

campro pick up is not great but still, its smooth.

mine still stock .. yet still can smoke lots of national car.. :-)

stock putra power la wei........

aiya.. how come this thread turned into CamProblem :/

This post has been edited by Creative: Apr 1 2007, 05:50 AM

just wondering, which is powerful gti or putra?

no la. this thread has become a CamPur thread

both putra and GTI have the same engine and power.
but handling wise .. of coz GTI .. tuned by lotus.
power to weight ratio.. i would says putra.. its lighter.. thous sacrificing the stability a bit compare with GTI.

juz my 2 cents.

ya .
but the problem with the GTi is , although it has negative lift aerodynamic bodykit design and rear wing .
but the absence of the tail actually make the car not so good handler in top speed .
i still think Putra is the most handsome proton-mistubisi car . of course ,GTi is better looking , but what i mean is stock .

If you need to rev to get the power, then your FC will suffer dramatically. That's why low end torque is very important in city driving and also highway. Higher torque allows your car to move at higher speed without revving the engine.

Imagine driving at 110km/h at 2000 rpm vs 110 km/hh at 3500 rpm, definitely the one at 3500rpm will consume A lot more of fuel.

It's similar to advanza 1.3. Driving at 120km/h nearly 4000rpm++ compared to vios 3000rpm and the fuel consumption was worst than a vios. Car pool back to KL on an advanza and i was surprise how much fuel it drank.

This post has been edited by Drian: Apr 2 2007, 02:31 PM

u want save money on petrol, please dont drive; walk instead, good for u and environment also.

4A-GEU - AE86 (84-85) - 1587cc - Max power (hp)130@6600
- Max torque (kg/cm)15.2@5200

4A-GELU - AE92 (90-91) - 1587cc - 140 @7200 - 15.0 @6000

4A-GLEU - AE111 Japan (96-2000) - 1587cc - 165 @7800 - 16.5 @5600

S4PH - neo/gen2 - 1597 cc - 110 bhp (82 kW) @ 6,500 - 148 N-m @ 4,000

S4PE - neo - 1332 cc - 94 bhp (70 kW) @ 6,000 - 120 N-m @ 4,000 rpm

FIRE14 - fiat panda - 1368cc - 99bhp@6000 - 97lb ft@4250

satria r3 use 4g93p i think... 1.8 with 140 bhp

just my 2 cent

http://www.racerallyresearch.com/gen2_r3/gen2_index.html


This post has been edited by ahaw: Apr 8 2007, 07:38 PM