My first post in this thread after an agonizing 18 pages... haha

First of all, THE Campro DOES NOT HAVE CPS AND VIM... like everybody in this world knows EXCEPT NAVIGATOR

I would also like to point out, if the campro engine can achive 160+hp during testing, then tell me why the R3 guys didnt utilise this during their recent rally project car which produce ard 140-150hp?

Abt the throttle body thingy, the Campro engine is controlled by a "Drive By Wire" throttle. that means that the accelerator padal and the throttle body is conected by a wire (through a computer box (EMS)) and not a cable.

About the flat throttle curve. Yes, it is possible, but not through tuning only. it can be done through proper calculations on the camshaft profiling (like the one done on the R3 car). Didnt think they would be crazy enuf to use the stock torque curve would you?

Abt hijauan, I have known a few ppl who has tuned this car there. What i wanna say may offend but... DEAL WITH IT!
Ask any layman after they change engine oil, gear oil, coolant, new tuning (will go into that later), and of course some services, how will the car feel?
The answer.... of course more powerful.
With the added help of X1R which is a friction reducer, i am sure the engine will be more willing to rev. So pls be the judge on this tuning method.

And speaking of tuning, the PDT2000 is a tuning gadget for the EMS system for the Campro engine. But being able to use one before, i would like to point out that other than recalibrating the throttle position, the idle timing, security codes, airbags
function and abs.(apart from fault codes)... the gadget can only display relavent parameters about the engine... so i still dunno how hijauan can TUNE the EMS. The EMS can only be tuned if u have a developers unit from siemens.

Being a Gen2 owner myself. i would like to say this engine is nothing fantastic. Yes, it is powerful (mine is moded of couse but i will not talk about it here), responsive.... but only in the higher range (3500-6500). yes it can go 210km/h... but not fairly easily. 4th gear can make 190 though.

About the car (nothing to be proud of,interior quality sucks)
Why i bough the car.... the handling rocks...

So plsssss. don bash me ok

This post has been edited by pacer: Jun 17 2006, 01:39 AM

timing belt snap is not common on a proton, unless of course u have used chepo belts in the first place. ori campro belts are from MITSUBOSHI.. they are really reliable. even cars in MME race use them...

maybe ur friends car had some defect, but then which car company does not, even rolls royce also got ppl complain LOL...

btw, what did ur friend mod until warranty void, seems serious. Proton are quite linient in warranty terms compared to other manufacturers, they only void warranty on the areas u mod compared to some where the void the whole car warranty

haha, he must be damn pissed off at you.... LOL
proton QC is hopeless la, even mine also all doors misalign.., but to be fair i took the car from the stockyard so they didnt do a PDI for me... anyway its just the alighment.

my gen2 has been problem free for me so far for the past 1.5 yrs, well other than the O2 sensor kong and a bodywork problem that was solved after some time, thats about it... other than that its just normal servicing, and after mods its still feels better...

i really dont see the problem with campro, yes torque is a bit low in the lower rpm but then is that a real issue???

i have had a waja 4g18 b4 this and now a gen2. i dont see the issue if u know how to harness the power of the engine. different engine design has different character.

u dont go high revving a diesel engine. you dont see people compaling that diesel has low HP.

the campro is a high revving engine and that is the main character, if u want low end torqe buy a savvy

what to do, some ppl think that all cars are built alike...

so the moral of the story is want a campro buy a manual