Rather than say inept.
I think no1 is convince with their heli.
s.africa should get large amount of it first, only 12 units produce so far who are going to convince by that.
To make the matter worse they dun have the money to cont the development.
I dun think any country want to take risk buying it.

hey, I all up for it

dan Selamat Hari Jadi ke 50 ATM!

Rooivalk awal 90 lagi tim penilaian dah kata NO
hahaha

I'm always impress by chinook capabilities in provides logistic support.
Too gooding.

This attack helicopter list has been going on since Dr Mahathir and Rooivalk was also one of the contender.

If you upgunned the EC725, it usually will not be a troop heli carrier .

This post has been edited by xtemujin: Sep 16 2013, 12:07 AM

Chinook is good, but I opt for osprey

Rooivalk were fall out of favourite long time ago.

Chinook were much more sexy.
Always envy sg of having a fleet of these bird

and they dare challenge china... i dont think they can even take on taiwan

Urm no,this isn't the 1800s anymore. We do not want our soldiers to be super commando mcshooter. A gung Ho attitude breeds stupidity . we want them to Analysis the situation and proceed accordingly based on their training, not shoot at anything that moves . a soldier that thinks he's safe will be the first to die

Btw, I would like to remind everyone that the zamboanga conflict is still ongoing so it's distasteful to make fun of our brother in arms. It was not too long ago that this country faced a similar threat where the civilian and military leaderships failed at multiple levels that left a few families without sons, husbands and fathers

well I could say in terms of payload, Chinook wins hands down.

but osprey compensate that with range and speed. the fear of the plane's safety is overrated though.

yeah, but that was back in the 1990s. SA govt already pumped funding to its development and many upgrades was made. I'm just saying this bcoz we shouldnt be limiting our options to Tiger only, tho it is the favourites now..

if attack heli is being considered due to Lahad Datu incident, then maybe it wont be hevily armed anti-tank attack heli like the Tiger. Maybe it will more towards lightly armed fast ground attack heli..

PeNothing to do with spec and safety issue lar.
It just that i like these bird more than vf22.

This post has been edited by yinchet: Sep 16 2013, 01:15 AM

against the LD pirate case, 1 spectra gunship is enough to vaporize them.

theres no way the US will sell their Spectre gunships...

I wonder why other nations didnt develop a similiar platform like the Spectre gunship...

The rooivalk project completely stalled since they failed to bid turkey attack heli project.
They no longer fund the project.
It also have not complete most of their development which been approved due to lack of funding.

We are lucky we didn't get rooivalk that time we could be wasted our money there.

I still prefer viper anytime.

This post has been edited by yinchet: Sep 16 2013, 01:16 AM

I think the turks also ady develop their own attack heli rite?
Too bad our maf more or less ady firm on tiger

Yeah based on a129.
They even develop their own milimeter wave radar.
Not bad i would say, maf do show interest in these heli as well.

I don't think the Pinoy Gomen allocate many budget for the Army in the south

I'll wait until the osprey are much more mature

What time period is it is irrelevant, aggression in fighting men is always a good thing whether it be a mounted knight in 15th century France or a Marine in 21st century Falujjah . Of course training and good military common sense is paramount,but armor protection can act as an augment to these . Good protection breeds confidence,not stupidity. I'm not saying a soldier needs to be a gung ho super commando mcshooter, I'm saying a well protected soldier will be more confident on the battlefield because he has faith that his protection system can protect him if something goes wrong. That soldier goes into battle knowing he has an advantage against his enemies.This increases morale and aggression & can give a good psychological edge in battle.

The battle will still be under infantry doctrine, training and tactics,but armored soldiers will be much more able and willing to execute aggressive maneuvers,perhaps even risky ones that may possibly gain the most advantage just because they are protected by armor and they know it. In the worst case scenario,even IF something goes wrong,the armor can,at least protect them and lessen the chance of a fatal injury.

As a bonus the mere sight of soldiers closing in on an enemy position aggressively can possibly unnerve the enemy and also affect him psychologically,perhaps by instilling fear or even forcing the enemy to prematurely retreat in fear of being overrun.

pity our Tiger wont be equipped with such millimeter wave radar...

there are many reasons why rooivalk programme went busted. but for me, one of the biggest factor is post-apartheid government incompetencies.

if we choose tiger, i wanna know what version it is. though i still prefer AH-1Z